Much has been underrated by most of the TL.net community since the beginning. I always enjoyed his technical style, which is really clean and smart, not falling into crazyness like kangmin, but fairly efficient. PvT he is the hottest toss right now, and still he has been one of the best PvT always. You add a very decent PvP to that, and let him gain some consistency at PvZ and he will be at least a top3 toss.

And let's remember his eliminations in both MSL and OSL.

A JD with a ridiculous ZvP record, iirc he is 8-2 in his last 10 games, and if we go deeper, he is 16-4 in his last 20 pvz. There is no shame on losing to him. Heck, even BeSt got eliminated by JD recently.

Losing to BeSt, with closer games than a lot of people would like to admit, when BeSt was in the very peak of his great streak. Even the great BeSt has been stoped recently by JD, who was the one who eliminated Much. That, and that BeSt is in a ridiculous streak PvP.

Basically he lost both series to the best PvP at the moment and the best ZvP(with the permission of July) for a long time. So, he couldn't beat the very best at their respective matchups. Big deal.

The important thing is not that he fell in the Ro4 of both starleagues. The important thing is that Much hasn't stop improving, even after those series which usually would take a toll on everyones morale. After losing to JD and BeSt, he has topped both forGG and Flash and it's not like he is a one day fluke. The guy has been around for a long time, and has always shown potential to be very good. He was just too inconsistent. Maybe now he will finally get the stability and consistency he needs. He just needs to get better at PvZ and he will become an incredible all around protoss asset for CJ.

pandabearguy

United States252 Posts

August 14 2008 00:43 GMT

#1523

On August 14 2008 09:33 RamenStyle wrote:

The important thing is not that he fell in the Ro4 of both starleagues.

Ro8 OSL

regardless he's starting to make headlines again, which is always nice :D

Ancestral

United States3230 Posts

August 14 2008 02:15 GMT

#1524

I really hope Much makes it to WCG, not that it actually matters. But when I first started watching, Much and Nal_rA were my guys, Bisu was bigger at the time but I had an unnatural affinity for Much. Maybe it's because my grandpa recently died and I was longing to fill the void caused by loss.

thedeadhaji

39489 Posts

August 14 2008 03:17 GMT

#1525

lol ancestral

nostalgic and serious post... then BAM!

Pyrrhuloxia

United States6700 Posts

August 14 2008 03:18 GMT

#1526

LMAO at the BeSt vs. Much debate. Stork ftw.

EvoChamber

France2505 Posts

August 14 2008 03:35 GMT

#1527

I don't think it's justified to call Much's PvZ untested; if anything, it's his most consistent matchup. Jaedong crushed Much not least because he knew what to expect from Old Toss: straight-up ground-based play without any significant sair harassment. Much's PvZ has always been excellent against less creative Zerg players (that's to say Zergs not named Jaedong), who get ripped up by his tremendous macro and pinpoint storms.

kramus

United States1259 Posts

August 14 2008 04:23 GMT

#1528

On August 14 2008 09:33 RamenStyle wrote:
Maybe now he will finally get the stability and consistency he needs. He just needs to get better at PvZ and he will become an incredible all around protoss asset for CJ.

i'm pretty sure TL has been praising much at least as much as someone who has not won a major title should be praised. much has also been regarded as CJ's most solid ace for a while already

brjdrb

United States577 Posts

August 14 2008 04:24 GMT

#1529

come on stork. show us some of your magic, i know u still have it in you

Zidane

United States1692 Posts

August 14 2008 04:25 GMT

#1530

Anyone actually got in the stream?

Terranator

Canada286 Posts

August 14 2008 04:26 GMT

#1531

Negative, it appears you have to get in about 1/2 hour before it starts.

HaXxorIzed

Australia8434 Posts

August 14 2008 04:28 GMT

#1532

Much is one of those players you really, really want to take his game to the next level by adding a layer of multitasking brilliance (mostly pvz) on top of his mechanics. I hope he manages to pull it off, because the way CJ is relying on him atm he's a bit like Free for hanbit, but much, much more consistent and reliable.

StrikeFLOW

United States369 Posts

August 14 2008 04:29 GMT

#1533

I want stork to wipe the floor with forgg.

gogogo stork.

economist_

Vietnam719 Posts

August 14 2008 04:34 GMT

#1534

No T in WCG? No way xD. Forgg ftw

IntoTheWow

is awesome32282 Posts

August 14 2008 04:34 GMT

#1535

OK LIVE REPORTING

kramus

United States1259 Posts

August 14 2008 04:35 GMT

#1536

really curious about how this series is going

IntoTheWow

is awesome32282 Posts

August 14 2008 04:35 GMT

#1537

Ok Blue Storm, Stork bottom left and forGG has top right.

Stork holds main, natural third and fourth.

Corinthos

Canada1842 Posts

August 14 2008 04:35 GMT

#1538

oh yeah hop back on irc and msg intothewow ~ sorry in a game

IntoTheWow

is awesome32282 Posts

August 14 2008 04:36 GMT

#1539

forGG has his main, natural and his third.

forGG pushes to the mid to split the map in 2, but Stork just pushes forward, kills some vultures/tanks while only losing zealots. He pulls back as soon as his zealots are dead.

He anegages again as soon as forGG tried to push closer, he pushes in again, this time commiting, storm goes off, kills the push. Stork is ahead.

IntoTheWow

is awesome32282 Posts

August 14 2008 04:37 GMT

#1540

Stork pushes forGG way back, not even close to splitting the map. forGG's push was almost destroyed but 4 tanks arrived to reinforce all the vultures he had without tanks.