• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:20
CEST 20:20
KST 03:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-611SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64
StarCraft 2
General
GSTL Returns in 2026! SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Protoss AoE skill expression Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 538 Media Blackout The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion StarCraft 64 is coming to Philly at SC4ALL II BW General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 2v2v2v2 Tournament
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread Iain M Banks Says He Has Cancer And Months To Live Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Chinese Gen Z: Between Dream…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3685 users

[Shinhan PL] OGN vs CJ - Page 6

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 Next All
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
May 25 2008 07:48 GMT
#101
I'm in a f*ck mood so.


Savior fuck you and your fucking slump.

Fuck fuck fuck
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
May 25 2008 08:26 GMT
#102
On May 25 2008 16:13 InfesTeD]i[ wrote:
Savior you look like a complete fagget! this is the last time I cheer for you, I dont believe anymore. Your games are boring as fuck...

You should have let NaDa have his 4th OSL badge.

Fuck you Savior! You fucking piece of shit


wtf, chill out
Administrator
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
May 25 2008 08:27 GMT
#103
WTF are you so depressed about , zerg hasn't beaten a terran since like July beat Mind , ZvT is harder then TvZ don't know way maybe it is because of the maps
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-25 08:41:59
May 25 2008 08:31 GMT
#104
On May 25 2008 17:27 raga4ka wrote:
WTF are you so depressed about , zerg hasn't beaten a terran since like July beat Mind , ZvT is harder then TvZ don't know way maybe it is because of the maps


(Z)Luxury vs (T)Memory
crazie-penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States1253 Posts
May 25 2008 14:58 GMT
#105
my hero is dead T_T....
Perhaps one day you will rise again or reincarnate. Until then...good bye
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
May 25 2008 16:29 GMT
#106
lol sick fair weather newbie fans =(.
I told them GoRush was king, they never listened. ~_~
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
May 25 2008 16:41 GMT
#107
On May 25 2008 17:26 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2008 16:13 InfesTeD]i[ wrote:
Savior you look like a complete fagget! this is the last time I cheer for you, I dont believe anymore. Your games are boring as fuck...

You should have let NaDa have his 4th OSL badge.

Fuck you Savior! You fucking piece of shit


wtf, chill out


I am, I just had to get that out of me. Because since started slumping (about a year ago) I have been watching every single one of his games and I have been cheering and actually believing over and over again. But this time I'm done with him, he looks like he dont even want to play the game, it's just his attitude and its shown on his game too.

Fuck savior! xD
w/e
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1866 Posts
May 25 2008 16:52 GMT
#108
On May 25 2008 17:31 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2008 17:27 raga4ka wrote:
WTF are you so depressed about , zerg hasn't beaten a terran since like July beat Mind , ZvT is harder then TvZ don't know way maybe it is because of the maps


(Z)Luxury vs (T)Memory


Yeah yeah, Luxury bashed on Memory, but I really think he is on to something. The macro of terrans today combined with extremely practiced counters to muta harass on every map (plus much better vessel control) is making it stupidly hard for zergs to win lately in the pros imo.

For example, in the last 20 televised korean pro TvZ's

5 were won by Zerg (Over Memory twice, UpMagic, Light and Fantasy, nobody top tier)
15 were won by Terran (Over Calm, GGPlay, Yarnc, Jaedong, maGma, Luxury, 815, sAviOr, and ZerO, that list contains the best zergs in the world)

Writerman what
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
May 25 2008 17:47 GMT
#109
Yeah honestly I'm starting to worry about the current state of TvZ a little it's been too long till a zerg wooped some A-terran's ass hard. (Sooooo lame how the osl has 4 zergs in one group by the way.)

Looking forward to Jaedong < Katrina SE > RuBy, expecting to see some HARSH ownage from Jaedong.
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-25 17:57:11
May 25 2008 17:56 GMT
#110
On May 26 2008 02:47 Frits wrote:
(Sooooo lame how the osl has 4 zergs in one group by the way.)


The fact it's even possible is completely and totally retarded.
Administrator
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
May 25 2008 18:10 GMT
#111


he'll come back one day . . .
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
May 25 2008 18:36 GMT
#112
Xellos > go.go > Flash?

Flash needs some lessons from the DDR Terran ^_^
May the BeSt man win.
ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-25 19:47:42
May 25 2008 19:45 GMT
#113
On May 26 2008 01:52 Atrioc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2008 17:31 Juicyfruit wrote:
On May 25 2008 17:27 raga4ka wrote:
WTF are you so depressed about , zerg hasn't beaten a terran since like July beat Mind , ZvT is harder then TvZ don't know way maybe it is because of the maps


(Z)Luxury vs (T)Memory


Yeah yeah, Luxury bashed on Memory, but I really think he is on to something. The macro of terrans today combined with extremely practiced counters to muta harass on every map (plus much better vessel control) is making it stupidly hard for zergs to win lately in the pros imo.

For example, in the last 20 televised korean pro TvZ's

5 were won by Zerg (Over Memory twice, UpMagic, Light and Fantasy, nobody top tier)
15 were won by Terran (Over Calm, GGPlay, Yarnc, Jaedong, maGma, Luxury, 815, sAviOr, and ZerO, that list contains the best zergs in the world)

You realize there are like, no top zergs you just listed? GGplay lost to sea, and hasn't been doing hardcore well in a long time. Jaedong has recently entered a slump, before that he was doing fine. 815 played like a jackass, thats why he lost, magma lost to flash and it was incredibly close, and yarnc lost to flash and it was close. They aren't losing because out of NO WHERE zvt became impossible, they are losing because

1) There are no top zergs at the moment
2) Flash rapes everyone in sight
3) There are no top zergs at the moment

We need someone with the drive to win, he will inspire zergs and figure out some nuances that will make the game easier and pull the zergs through the starleagues. Luxury might of been the replacement for Jaedong, but hes playing like ass-sadly. The closest to him is 815 and Hyun, which aren't going to be bonjwas anytime soon. Its unfortunate but its true. The Zerg skill base has aged, the play has reached stagnation, and they are all out of gas. We need a zerg revolutionist

Can you dig it?
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10835 Posts
May 25 2008 21:10 GMT
#114
On May 26 2008 02:47 Frits wrote:
Yeah honestly I'm starting to worry about the current state of TvZ a little it's been too long till a zerg wooped some A-terran's ass hard. (Sooooo lame how the osl has 4 zergs in one group by the way.)

Looking forward to Jaedong < Katrina SE > RuBy, expecting to see some HARSH ownage from Jaedong.

before flash zerg won 3 OSLs in a row -_-; it hasn't been that long since zerg has been owning it up
ModeratorResident K-POP Elitist
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1866 Posts
May 25 2008 21:14 GMT
#115
Uhh the thing is the terrans who are winning 75% of the matchup and all important matches arent anything special either. They arent revolutionists with amazing play. These are the leigion of standard macro-heavy terrans that even the best zergs in the world cant handle.

It shouldnt take a bonjwa with an enormous skill difference to win a game of ZvT. When sAviOr was in his prime he wasnt the only zerg winning, when Jaedong was kicking ass so was Luxury and others.
Writerman what
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
May 25 2008 22:57 GMT
#116
On May 26 2008 06:10 LosingID8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2008 02:47 Frits wrote:
Yeah honestly I'm starting to worry about the current state of TvZ a little it's been too long till a zerg wooped some A-terran's ass hard. (Sooooo lame how the osl has 4 zergs in one group by the way.)

Looking forward to Jaedong < Katrina SE > RuBy, expecting to see some HARSH ownage from Jaedong.

before flash zerg won 3 OSLs in a row -_-; it hasn't been that long since zerg has been owning it up


Yeah you're right it's just that at this moment zerg looks so powerless, but when you look at the long run it's all balanced. The balance always seems to be shifting.
ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
May 25 2008 23:22 GMT
#117
On May 26 2008 06:14 Atrioc wrote:
Uhh the thing is the terrans who are winning 75% of the matchup and all important matches arent anything special either. They arent revolutionists with amazing play. These are the leigion of standard macro-heavy terrans that even the best zergs in the world cant handle.

It shouldnt take a bonjwa with an enormous skill difference to win a game of ZvT. When sAviOr was in his prime he wasnt the only zerg winning, when Jaedong was kicking ass so was Luxury and others.
Thats just the way the zerg race is. Read the FE article, there can only be one zerg king. Why? Because the way Zerg play is devised, its utterly unstoppable when you have someone who is playing it with flare, with a drive. When it is played just by a common no body its not as strong. Again, its the way the race was made. Utterly destructive but incredibly fragile, one wrong move and its all gone. It requires finesse and genuis to handle. Not necessarily a bonjwa, but someone who has drive- at the moment no zerg does.
Can you dig it?
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
May 26 2008 00:20 GMT
#118
well savior won the gom tv shit so stop saying he blows.
cuz he doesn't
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6120 Posts
May 26 2008 00:31 GMT
#119
The reason why t>>z currently is because terran can fe pump scvs from both, and zerg still struggles very very hard to secure a third gas.

Even when savior was in his prime alot of his wins over terran were epic 3-2
#1 Terran hater
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
May 26 2008 00:54 GMT
#120
SAVIOR NOOOO FUCK FUCK FUCK
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 40m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft533
mouzHeroMarine 454
ProTech83
UpATreeSC 72
MindelVK 19
EmSc Tv 1
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 19219
Shuttle 898
Larva 314
Rush 205
Dewaltoss 100
Hyuk 63
Sexy 18
scan(afreeca) 16
yabsab 16
Dota 2
qojqva4946
Counter-Strike
fl0m6501
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu143
Other Games
gofns10554
Grubby1276
FrodaN1046
Beastyqt711
B2W.Neo472
ceh9405
C9.Mang0157
ArmadaUGS122
Organizations
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 1
EmSc2Tv 1
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 72
• Reevou 5
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis2565
• imaqtpie1704
• TFBlade773
• Shiphtur567
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 40m
Replay Cast
5h 40m
Escore
15h 40m
PiG Sty Festival
17h 40m
ByuN vs HeRoMaRinE
ShoWTimE vs Zoun
Big Brain Bouts
21h 40m
Nicoract vs Neeb
TriGGeR vs ShoWTimE
CranKy Ducklings
1d 15h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 17h
herO vs Krystianer
Solar vs Cure
IPSL
1d 21h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Maru vs Shameless
Reynor vs TriGGeR
[ Show More ]
IPSL
2 days
OSC
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Rush vs Hm
Bisu vs Shuttle
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
The Patches Monday
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
BeSt vs Paralyze
Jaedong vs Speed
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-12
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
META DYMY #4
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.