For the people bitching about katrina and Bisu's carriers. I'm sick of this shit. Xellos knows the weakness of terran on Katrina. He should learn from UpMagic. If you're at a disadvantage with standard play USE NON STANDARD PLAY FOR GODS SAKE. Do a 1 fact + 2 proxy fact timing attack for example. You can use the high ground near the ramp below the protoss main as a starting point to setup a strong push to the main. Theres plenty of options besides simply passively macroing for the loss.

Last Romantic

United States20661 Posts

January 16 2008 16:12 GMT

#382

4/4 lol

IntoTheWow

is awesome32274 Posts

January 16 2008 16:40 GMT

#383

On January 17 2008 00:51 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
For the people bitching about katrina and Bisu's carriers. I'm sick of this shit. Xellos knows the weakness of terran on Katrina. He should learn from UpMagic. If you're at a disadvantage with standard play USE NON STANDARD PLAY FOR GODS SAKE. Do a 1 fact + 2 proxy fact timing attack for example. You can use the high ground near the ramp below the protoss nat as a starting point to setup a strong push to the nat. Theres plenty of options besides simply passively macroing for the loss.

Against Bisu?

edit: I mean he already faced that kind of stuff.

TheFoReveRwaR

United States10657 Posts

January 16 2008 17:43 GMT

#384

Ya and it worked perfectly the other time

But really if the non standard strat is done properly there should be no way to scout or read it until its already in effect. Actually bisu has a fairly long history of having problems with non standard play. By no means I'm suggesting that its going to work for sure or that its an easy thing to do. But given the nature of Katrina and the fact that the opponent is Bisu, non standard play would have a much higher success rate.

At least this is what I would have told Xellos if I was the CJ coach

On top of that it's really annoying to hear people bitch about Bisu's play. He knows what it takes to win and he knows the most solid way to do it. You can't blame him for taking the marginal advantage of the map and turning it into a sure win against standard T play (given his amazing skills). Yes he could've gone arbs or something more entertaining but arbs can be adapted to and defended against in ways that carriers simply cannot.

IntoTheWow

is awesome32274 Posts

January 16 2008 17:46 GMT

#385

I'm not complaining about Bisu going carriers. Im complaining about MBC + OGN keeping katrina is an awful map and it doesn't bring interesting games so far.

FieryBalrog

United States1381 Posts

January 16 2008 17:46 GMT

#386

These games sound pretty awesome, OSL maps ftw

alffla

Hong Kong20321 Posts

January 16 2008 18:03 GMT

#387

On January 17 2008 02:46 FieryBalrog wrote:
These games sound pretty awesome, OSL maps ftw

totally imba for P katrina ftw? D:

TheFoReveRwaR

United States10657 Posts

January 16 2008 18:25 GMT

#388

It wouldn't be so bad if T didn't insist on playing the SAME WAY every game

But ya it's imbalanced.

TheFoReveRwaR

United States10657 Posts

January 16 2008 18:26 GMT

#389

On January 17 2008 02:46 IntoTheWow wrote:
I'm not complaining about Bisu going carriers. Im complaining about MBC + OGN keeping katrina is an awful map and it doesn't bring interesting games so far.

Well it probably wasn't directed at you then

It was mainly to the people who were like "WTF GAY BISU GOING CARRIERS HOW LAME".