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[OSL] Bacchus 2008 Ro16 Day 1 - Page 20

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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-17 07:02:41
January 16 2008 15:51 GMT
#381
For the people bitching about katrina and Bisu's carriers. I'm sick of this shit. Xellos knows the weakness of terran on Katrina. He should learn from UpMagic. If you're at a disadvantage with standard play USE NON STANDARD PLAY FOR GODS SAKE. Do a 1 fact + 2 proxy fact timing attack for example. You can use the high ground near the ramp below the protoss main as a starting point to setup a strong push to the main. Theres plenty of options besides simply passively macroing for the loss.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
January 16 2008 16:12 GMT
#382
4/4 lol
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-16 16:41:22
January 16 2008 16:40 GMT
#383
On January 17 2008 00:51 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
For the people bitching about katrina and Bisu's carriers. I'm sick of this shit. Xellos knows the weakness of terran on Katrina. He should learn from UpMagic. If you're at a disadvantage with standard play USE NON STANDARD PLAY FOR GODS SAKE. Do a 1 fact + 2 proxy fact timing attack for example. You can use the high ground near the ramp below the protoss nat as a starting point to setup a strong push to the nat. Theres plenty of options besides simply passively macroing for the loss.


Against Bisu?

edit: I mean he already faced that kind of stuff.
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-16 17:46:55
January 16 2008 17:43 GMT
#384
Ya and it worked perfectly the other time But really if the non standard strat is done properly there should be no way to scout or read it until its already in effect. Actually bisu has a fairly long history of having problems with non standard play. By no means I'm suggesting that its going to work for sure or that its an easy thing to do. But given the nature of Katrina and the fact that the opponent is Bisu, non standard play would have a much higher success rate.

At least this is what I would have told Xellos if I was the CJ coach

On top of that it's really annoying to hear people bitch about Bisu's play. He knows what it takes to win and he knows the most solid way to do it. You can't blame him for taking the marginal advantage of the map and turning it into a sure win against standard T play (given his amazing skills). Yes he could've gone arbs or something more entertaining but arbs can be adapted to and defended against in ways that carriers simply cannot.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
January 16 2008 17:46 GMT
#385
I'm not complaining about Bisu going carriers. Im complaining about MBC + OGN keeping katrina is an awful map and it doesn't bring interesting games so far.
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FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
January 16 2008 17:46 GMT
#386
These games sound pretty awesome, OSL maps ftw
I will eat you alive
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 16 2008 18:03 GMT
#387
On January 17 2008 02:46 FieryBalrog wrote:
These games sound pretty awesome, OSL maps ftw


totally imba for P katrina ftw? D:
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
January 16 2008 18:25 GMT
#388
It wouldn't be so bad if T didn't insist on playing the SAME WAY every game But ya it's imbalanced.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
January 16 2008 18:26 GMT
#389
On January 17 2008 02:46 IntoTheWow wrote:
I'm not complaining about Bisu going carriers. Im complaining about MBC + OGN keeping katrina is an awful map and it doesn't bring interesting games so far.


Well it probably wasn't directed at you then It was mainly to the people who were like "WTF GAY BISU GOING CARRIERS HOW LAME".
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
January 16 2008 19:00 GMT
#390
XellOs T_T 3 straight starleague losses. BOOOOOO
Do your best, God will do the rest.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
January 16 2008 19:27 GMT
#391
On January 16 2008 21:30 BluzMan wrote:
Post-game analysis:

Yarnc won this game. Twice. Then, I failed to understand StarCraft.

Moderator。◕‿◕。
Taskmaster
Profile Joined March 2007
Spain23 Posts
January 16 2008 19:42 GMT
#392
4/4

Current Voting Streak 17 Correct votes in a row
yakii *
Profile Joined June 2006
Korea (South)1448 Posts
January 16 2008 19:53 GMT
#393
VODs!


Bacchus OSL Ro16 Day 1
2008-01-16 (Wednesday), 19:30

Group A
(Z)Jaedong < Blue Storm > (Z)sAviOr

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Part 1 / Part 2

Daum



Group B
(Z)Rumble < Troy > (T)Flash

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Part 1 / Part 2 / Part 3

Daum



Group C
(P)Bisu < Katrina > (T)XellOs

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Part 1 / Part 2 / Part 3

Daum



Group D
(T)FrOzean < Demon's Forest > (Z)YellOw[ArnC]

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Part 1 / Part 2 / Part 3 / Part 4

Daum




* All Youtube VODs by Jon747 (aka BaeZZi)
사마난
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
January 16 2008 20:37 GMT
#394
Oh if anyone is wondering the intro song for Jaedong vs Savior is Pennywise. I think its off the Full Circle album
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
noobienoob
Profile Joined July 2007
United States1173 Posts
January 16 2008 20:45 GMT
#395
I liked flash's game on Troy; some really nice counter moves made by flash. I'm starting to really admire him as a good player. respect+1
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
January 16 2008 21:07 GMT
#396
.. yarnc
And all is illuminated.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 16 2008 21:54 GMT
#397
Flash is underrated
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5520 Posts
January 16 2008 22:26 GMT
#398
Wow anyone else see the resemblance between Sync and Xellos these games?
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Scorpion
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1974 Posts
January 16 2008 23:08 GMT
#399
Wtf was up with the Demon's forest map? Nothing but stumps >_>
Mango @ U.S.East!
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
January 16 2008 23:14 GMT
#400
Flash you #1
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