• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:21
CEST 06:21
KST 13:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event5Serral wins EWC 202543Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9
Community News
SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 194Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments5[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy Rogue Talks: "Koreans could dominate again" uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread
Tourneys
SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) WardiTV Mondays RSL Season 2 Qualifier Links and Dates
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
StarCon Philadelphia ASL Season 20 Ro24 Groups BW General Discussion BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams Player “Jedi” cheat on CSL
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM 2025 Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Gaming After Dark: Poor Slee…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 508 users

[OSL Ro4] Bisu vs Stork! - Page 29

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 27 28 29 30 31 35 Next All
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1599 Posts
December 14 2007 12:48 GMT
#561
Stork i fuckin love you

RRRRRRRRape
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
UbRi
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Italy603 Posts
December 14 2007 12:51 GMT
#562
this sucks, stork would've never beaten savior in the semis but at least the final will be more interesting
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
December 14 2007 12:52 GMT
#563
On December 14 2007 19:50 Catyoul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2007 19:46 BluzMan wrote:
... and stop the ZvP imba whining.

To think I'd ever hear that... hehe
Hell heay and the man who made you hear that just lost 0-3. T_T
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
December 14 2007 12:59 GMT
#564
On December 14 2007 21:14 IaniAniaN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2007 21:09 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On December 14 2007 20:59 Aepplet wrote:
On December 14 2007 20:43 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
stork fans can still go fuck themselves

how anyone can like that guy is beyond me


he's good, isn't that enough?

Let me explain something to you Steve. A lot of TL users (ok well some...) are not gay and therefore do not feel the need to judge a Bw player based on looks. We can actually look at how they play. If a player is nerdy, we don't give a shit, as long as they show us inspiring and/or entertaining play. We know this might be hard for you to understand, but how a given players' face/hair/jaw line/ or whatever gay superficial shit you're looking at is not relavent to us. So, that being said, what's wrong with Stork? He comes off as a hard working, sincere, and incredibly intelligent player. He seems kind, but at the same time, if you give him shit he isn't so pussy as to not throw it back in your face (the SKT1 game). Is he nerdy? Yes. But he's a Bw player. Who the fuck cares?


He's just pissed that Bisu lost, if this was a soccer match he'd pour beer on you.

EDIT: I'm also pissed Bisu lost btw.

Mmmm Beer.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19135 Posts
December 14 2007 13:04 GMT
#565
On December 14 2007 20:43 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
stork fans can still go fuck themselves

how anyone can like that guy is beyond me

Feel the same about Bisu .

So each to his own :p. And this was more about wanting Bisu to lose then for Stork to win, but I'm sympathetic for stork so today was a good day.

Last time Jaedong and Stork met Stork won, was a rly nice game imho, think on Katrina so if thats a sign for the finals should be good. Same with 3rd place match.
ModeratorFor remember, that in the end, some are born to live, others born to die. I belong to those last, born to burn, born to cry. For I shall remain alone... forsaken.
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11291 Posts
December 14 2007 13:18 GMT
#566
So, bonjwa theory still holds.

That's the only positive thing I am getting out of this - more exciting finals, well, great, I'd rather have had Jaedong proving himself against the master of PvZ. And Stork is not really likeable.
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-14 13:21:58
December 14 2007 13:21 GMT
#567
Bisu lost 2x in the OSL AND an MSL final. Bonjwa theory isn't holding because check it: Bisu isn't a Bonjwa.

ho ho!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13007 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-14 13:26:19
December 14 2007 13:25 GMT
#568
Bisu's a good player, but he's no star.

He has excellent PvZ, there's no denying it, but his PvT and PvP aren't so crash hot. It's not that he's necessarily bad at PvT and PvP, but he's very beatable in both.

He's not up there with the Boxer/Oov/Nada/July/Savior class of player.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-14 13:26:49
December 14 2007 13:26 GMT
#569
Maybe Bisu should ask Stork to play Z next time. Boy were those semis shitty- I guess that's what you get when the real final has already happened in the round of 8... /bored
11 years and counting- TL #680
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13007 Posts
December 14 2007 13:29 GMT
#570
I don't agree.

Stork vs Jaedong will be a very good series.

They're not the best exponents of the matchup, but they're pretty close in terms of relative skill.

I expect a close series.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
proA.June91
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Vietnam445 Posts
December 14 2007 13:40 GMT
#571
I can not believe it

T__T 3 - 0 for Stork. It must be 3 - 2 or something. 3 - 0 T__T
That's hurt
Fear is not what I'll get. It is what I've created myself
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-14 13:48:11
December 14 2007 13:46 GMT
#572
Bonjwa theory doesn't hold because BW superstition doesn't hold. Stork just resoundingly rebuffed that by winning 3:0 in the first place and he'll tear it in half should he win this OSL.

There's also the idea that Bonjwa isn't a crystallised theory yet. Either way, while Bisu has a ways to go in PvP and PvT, he'll be back.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
December 14 2007 13:48 GMT
#573
This osl season is the worst.
XIII
Profile Joined September 2005
483 Posts
December 14 2007 13:48 GMT
#574
On December 14 2007 22:29 RowdierBob wrote:
I don't agree.

Stork vs Jaedong will be a very good series.

They're not the best exponents of the matchup, but they're pretty close in terms of relative skill.

I expect a close series.


it can be a good series, but it wont be as good as savior vs bisu was
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
December 14 2007 14:03 GMT
#575
dang I missed it. Well kind of figured Stork has better PvP but 3-0 -.-

now he just has to beat Jeadong or I'll hate him forever.
Xellos <3
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11291 Posts
December 14 2007 14:08 GMT
#576
On December 14 2007 22:46 HaXxorIzed wrote:
Bonjwa theory doesn't hold because BW superstition doesn't hold. Stork just resoundingly rebuffed that by winning 3:0 in the first place and he'll tear it in half should he win this OSL.

There's also the idea that Bonjwa isn't a crystallised theory yet. Either way, while Bisu has a ways to go in PvP and PvT, he'll be back.

Ok, firstly: If you call Bisu bonjwa or not is a matter of preference.
Secondly: If you DO think the label applies to him, you can choose to believe in this theory which predicts the following: Everyone to whom the label applies will win three out of four subsequent MSLs and will win an OSL only after he won his third MSL, not earlier. The predictions of PoP made in that thread still hold:

*Update* Predictions:
1. Bisu will win the next MSL.
2. Bisu will not win the current OSL.
3. However Bisu will grab the OSL following the next MSL's finals.
4. In two MSL, another new bonjwa will take over and win his first starleague ever.

The theory would have been seriously challenged if something like a Bisu vs. Jaedong final had come to pass, as Bisu losing a BO5 to a zerg is highly unlikely at the time being. To reiterate: It is not the theory which makes someone bonjwa, it is a theory which apparently applies to everyone who is called bonjwa, for what reason-o-ever.
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
December 14 2007 14:26 GMT
#577
On December 14 2007 21:32 MTF wrote:
All of this bickering is senseless.

[image loading]

Bisu obviously saw his awaiting fate, and the fright immobilized him.


man that's scary
Wait...a pvz final? Wtf, last time that happened was...10 seasons ago? Oh my god, the room is spinning! Something is wrong here!

gogo jaedong crush the protoss!!
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-14 14:32:35
December 14 2007 14:32 GMT
#578
man I worked my way up from lb rank 90 to 60 in ~3 weeks only to lose them all today -____- oh well. Now I'm looking forward to seeing a (hope it will be epic) PvZ final :D
JoMal
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
December 14 2007 14:36 GMT
#579
wow ! =[
Oh you mad cause i'm stylin on you
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-14 14:57:13
December 14 2007 14:44 GMT
#580
While this semi was a rape, I loved Stork's play so much, especially that Persona game. I had no idea how he had so many fuckn Dragoons. Oooo It was awesome. Felt like I saw Protoss Oov.

Anyways, here's some spare info I dunno where to put.

Bisu plays Up on
Fantasy II, Kat, Blue, Persona, Fan.

Jaedong and Stork is
Persona, Katrina, Fantasy, BlueStorm, persona.



And Stork said this after game.

- Last week watching Up lose 0-3 to Jaedong, he reminded me of myself last season. I know that feeling and I didn't want to lose like that. I'm really happy I won 3-0.

- Persona was the map I had the hardest time on, and go figure Bisu uses a build I never fought against. In Fantasy and Blue Storm, I had the build lead so I think that lead to my victory.

- When I first attacked on Persona, I found out he went dual robo. If he immediately counter rushed, It would have been a very difficult situation, but I bought time well and was able to win the center fight.

- Originally, in Set2, I was gonna take my nat and do a speed zealot reaver hit. However, with the 1-0 lead, I changed my plans. The Contain move worked well so I was able to win.

- Set 3. You blocked the 2 gate well.
--With a lot of practice, I developed the know-how to stop 2 gate. The build was a counter 2 gate build so I just controlled hard trying to not take damage.

- Because you were fighting the guy who beat you in the MSL finals, wasn't it intimidating?

-- I wasn't particularly worried that it was Bisu. I was really worried about what strategy was coming on Persona (Seems Stork had special attention on this map). I don't think my MSL finals defeat is fully avenged yet. A Finals and Semis are different. I'd think I'd have to meet him again in the finals and beat him to say I've had my revenge. But really, I don't consciously go after revenge. It's really a thing of the past.

- YOU MEET JAEDONGERrrrrrrrrrrr.

-- This could seem like a complaint, but Persona I think is the hardest map to PvZ on of the current pool. Swarm is a zerg spell and nice for them. It's also set 1 and 5. The Protoss popularity . I think comming up from a harder scenario to win is a better way to gain recognition. Besides using Persona twice, everything else is nice. I want to overturn Persona in a dramatic win.

- Weak v Zerg reputation>

-- I think I'm weak only in broadcast. I do well in practice. Playing on a big stage like the finals, due to the nervousness, I might not be able to showcase the best of my abilities, I'll practice hard and prepare.

- Who helped you practice?
-- There were so many that came to me to help me. I am so thankful.
Reach, Anytime, Soo, and Best, all offered to help me. On top of that, Backho and BestGod helped. Jangbi on my team helped too. So many others helped me too and I am so thankful.

- Jaedong, attempting the royal road, is not easy.

-- I'm not stressing over it. I have a great momentum right now, so I am trying to ride my momentum to the finals. My debut Starleague was Ever 2005. I got eliminated then, but 2 years later, the same company is holding a SL and since I am in the finals, I want to win no matter what.

- If you had to analyze JD?

-- He definately has his own style. He plays very Zergy ( -_________-;;; ) He macros well, fights well, and makes good builds. It's going to take a lot of thought before I approach the games.

- You have less practice time than JD.

-- He might be happy, but I am probably going to practice for PL first. Practicing for 5 games shoudl take about 2-3 days. I think overpracticing won't help too much either.

- Final words?

-- Looking on the internet, there were talks of Player Awards for the year (or Player of the Year??), Because I don't have a title, they said the chances of me getting an(the?) award were slim. No one really acknowledges the WCG win so it's hard. After seeing those comments, my ambitions increased. I'd have to win this to have a shot at the Award. And today, so many people came, and their cheers really helped my game. I hope for the same in the finals.


Yeahhhhhh. Jaedong vs Stork... I am gonna love this finals.
I loved both players since they were rookies. ~_~ OMG SICK.

And Cut the bonjwa talk you silly gooks.

DUH~ Fifo.
http://www.fighterforum.com/news/news_read.asp?cat=INT&idx=22637
[image loading]

He's so dreamy -____-;;
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Prev 1 27 28 29 30 31 35 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 39m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
ggaemo 459
Leta 431
PianO 274
Noble 22
Terrorterran 13
Icarus 11
Stormgate
Nina265
Dota 2
monkeys_forever756
NeuroSwarm121
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K604
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King140
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor164
Other Games
summit1g10410
tarik_tv5956
JimRising 797
WinterStarcraft435
ViBE184
amsayoshi74
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1088
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH334
• practicex 44
• davetesta22
• Sammyuel 20
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt384
Other Games
• Scarra1253
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5h 39m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
10h 39m
BSL
14h 39m
Bonyth vs Hawk
Wardi Open
1d 6h
RotterdaM Event
1d 11h
Replay Cast
1d 19h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
Online Event
6 days
SC Evo League
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

StarCon 2025 Philadelphia LAN
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.