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Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
December 14 2007 08:04 GMT
#181
I think Persona is bloody great, I think its the first 1v1 map that has this neutral dark swarm! Fantasy II however is a different story. SO annoying because of all those differences

It will come down to good old Game 5 on Persona! 1 hour and a half to go!
< TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #46 > I came for the Brood War, I stayed for the people.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 14 2007 08:08 GMT
#182
Is it me or does tl.net always take things to the extreme?

Stork does not have bad PvZ. In fact, outside of Bisu and compared to a lot of Protoss players his PvZ is pretty damn good. He's STILL a favorite over Jaedong if he wins this set - and by quite a good margin at that.

His PvZ is not bad, it's just that looking at Bisu every Protoss player seems to have bad PvZ.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
hacpee
Profile Joined November 2007
United States752 Posts
December 14 2007 08:12 GMT
#183
On December 14 2007 17:08 Ace wrote:
Is it me or does tl.net always take things to the extreme?

Stork does not have bad PvZ. In fact, outside of Bisu and compared to a lot of Protoss players his PvZ is pretty damn good. He's STILL a favorite over Jaedong if he wins this set - and by quite a good margin at that.

His PvZ is not bad, it's just that looking at Bisu every Protoss player seems to have bad PvZ.


I think he's at 50% for PvZ, which is what Jaedong's ZvP is at I think.
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
December 14 2007 08:22 GMT
#184
Compared to a lot of Protoss players, Rock is a good player. When comparing Stork who is number 2 in KESPA at the moment to other players of his calibre, his PvZ is worse than Protosses like Bisu, Anytime, Free. I don't see why it would be unfair to rate the second best protoss against some of the best protosses when looking for weaknesses.

When two protosses appeared in the semi-finals, Jaedong already became an underdog. People cheering for Stork who are hopeful for a Jaedong OSL victory aren't really calling Stork a pushover, but its just a lot nicer than the miracle he'd had to pull off against Bisu.
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HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-14 08:29:37
December 14 2007 08:24 GMT
#185
Stork is 15 wins - 11 losses (57.69%) this year in PvZ, and he's taken a fair few losses to savior. Take out those PvZ losses to Savior, and he's managed 14 wins - 7 losses (66.67%), iirc.

His PvZ isn't Bisu level, but to call him the underdog against Jaedong's ZvP is inaccurate and he has not had a terrible year as far as his PvZ goes, particularly when compared to his career average and the career averages of a lot of top Protoss players. To be perfectly honest, given the schedule of making OSL/MSL and playing as a consistent pillar for KHAN in the proleague, keeping a 55+% record is quite an achievement, particularly given he was able show improvement and eventually take a game off Savior in his 1:2 loss. There's also the game he played against Jaedong in the OSL groups to keep in mind.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 14 2007 08:26 GMT
#186
On December 14 2007 17:12 hacpee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2007 17:08 Ace wrote:
Is it me or does tl.net always take things to the extreme?

Stork does not have bad PvZ. In fact, outside of Bisu and compared to a lot of Protoss players his PvZ is pretty damn good. He's STILL a favorite over Jaedong if he wins this set - and by quite a good margin at that.

His PvZ is not bad, it's just that looking at Bisu every Protoss player seems to have bad PvZ.


I think he's at 50% for PvZ, which is what Jaedong's ZvP is at I think.



and a lot of his losses come from Savior, who is the bane of all Protoss users not named Bisu.

50% PvZ is a HUGE accomplishment - has everyone forgotten the days when a toss beating any zerg on a bo3 was considered a miracle?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 14 2007 08:28 GMT
#187
Stork's PvZ worse than Anytime and Free?

fuck it. I've heard it all now.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
OctoPuSs
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Canada5279 Posts
December 14 2007 08:31 GMT
#188
On December 14 2007 17:28 Ace wrote:
Stork's PvZ worse than Anytime and Free?

fuck it. I've heard it all now.

It actually isn't that far off.
Depression is just a sarcastic state of mind. Liquid`HerO Fighting!
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6105 Posts
December 14 2007 08:35 GMT
#189
Free's pvz is the second best
#1 Terran hater
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
December 14 2007 08:49 GMT
#190
blagh guys

i'm having a really bad day

fjsaklgjaslkfjsdaklgjsalkfjsaklgjsaklfjslak

i wish i could stay up and watch, but i'm just sad so i'm gonna goto bed
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
ReTrooper
Profile Joined February 2003
Germany526 Posts
December 14 2007 08:52 GMT
#191
[image loading]


Go Stork!
De omnibus dubitandum.
BlackSphinx
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada317 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-14 08:54:15
December 14 2007 08:53 GMT
#192
I'm ready to go, got Daum figured out, and filled to the brim with caffeine.

START ALREADY!

Stork 3 - 2 Bisu is my prediction.

On December 14 2007 17:52 ReTrooper wrote:
[image loading]


Go Stork!


That's just evil.
beyondie
Profile Joined September 2007
Niger112 Posts
December 14 2007 08:54 GMT
#193
On December 14 2007 17:52 ReTrooper wrote:
[image loading]


Go Stork!

haha, Stork is spending hours in meditation on that button
OctoPuSs
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Canada5279 Posts
December 14 2007 09:00 GMT
#194
On December 14 2007 17:49 Day[9] wrote:
blagh guys

i'm having a really bad day

fjsaklgjaslkfjsdaklgjsalkfjsaklgjsaklfjslak

i wish i could stay up and watch, but i'm just sad so i'm gonna goto bed

Sad to hear this pal. I think you should watch the games, it might cheer you up.
Depression is just a sarcastic state of mind. Liquid`HerO Fighting!
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
December 14 2007 09:08 GMT
#195
yeaya getting up at 4 am has never been so fun!
OctoPuSs
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Canada5279 Posts
December 14 2007 09:09 GMT
#196
BTW Guys start up your Daum players before the games. Apparently there's an update.
Depression is just a sarcastic state of mind. Liquid`HerO Fighting!
hacpee
Profile Joined November 2007
United States752 Posts
December 14 2007 09:09 GMT
#197
Heh, the pple at yao yun were freaking out. "Wo bu neng kan, Wo bu neng kan!"
Thegreatbeyond
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States287 Posts
December 14 2007 09:13 GMT
#198
Guys I just came back from my time machine, Bisu will win.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
December 14 2007 09:16 GMT
#199
On December 14 2007 17:52 ReTrooper wrote:
[image loading]


Go Stork!


Hehe
Just pray that doesnt happen again
Hoping for just as epic match as last time, just with that thing ;P
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Catyoul *
Profile Joined April 2004
France2377 Posts
December 14 2007 09:21 GMT
#200
Is it me or is there still no room open on Daum player ?
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