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[KSL2] Semifinal B - Last vs Soulkey - Page 5

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TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
December 07 2018 12:59 GMT
#81
I don't dare say anything anymore, but Soulkey is probably a champion.
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bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
December 07 2018 13:32 GMT
#82
Why didn't Last dare to play normally with Soulkey?
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KarlHungus1908
Profile Joined May 2017
67 Posts
December 07 2018 13:40 GMT
#83
4-0 in zvt its fantastic, 4-0 vs Last its fantastic x2.GJ MinChul
JoinTheRain
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
Bulgaria409 Posts
December 07 2018 14:05 GMT
#84
Beautiful display from Soulkey, countering Last on every turn but also - an underwhelming performance from Last, he definitely did not live up to expectations but this is the beauty of the game, supposed favorites lose all the time; just like that, Rain and Last are out, the most expected players to take it all end up with nothing.
I just hope for not so one sided finals.
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8510 Posts
December 07 2018 14:43 GMT
#85
Both LB are wrong
I went with Rain and Last

Anyway , it's better to have a TvZ final !
I like both players but i will vote for Sk !
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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1937 Posts
December 07 2018 14:51 GMT
#86
Well fuck me. I didn't watch the match live because I thought it was going to be a 4-0 sweep for Last. lol
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ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
December 07 2018 14:52 GMT
#87
On December 07 2018 23:43 prosatan wrote:
Both LB are wrong
I went with Rain and Last

Anyway , it's better to have a TvZ final !
I like both players but i will vote for Sk !

Sharp is very unlikely to win in macro games, but considering the games we've seen so far in this tournament, I think we're gonna get lots of short ones.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
December 07 2018 15:00 GMT
#88
That soulkey pick to win was an easy one. Last has been struggling in these big games lately. Well done TL. Either SK has a ton of fans who vote with their heart or everyone saw this as a close match.

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Meanwhile Sharp...
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-07 15:02:26
December 07 2018 15:02 GMT
#89
On December 07 2018 23:52 ortseam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2018 23:43 prosatan wrote:
Both LB are wrong
I went with Rain and Last

Anyway , it's better to have a TvZ final !
I like both players but i will vote for Sk !

Sharp is very unlikely to win in macro games, but considering the games we've seen so far in this tournament, I think we're gonna get lots of short ones.

This is what the games will look like.


edit: Maybe with better graphics
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Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
December 07 2018 15:32 GMT
#90
I wonder if Last had some psychological issue for the match. He got so much hate for beating Jaedong just using 1-1-1 every game. Maybe he told himself that he'd rather lose than win that way again just because of the fan hate. I don't know I haven't been watching Lasts' stream. I just wonder if he wanted to play these special strategies because of the fans.

At any rate, Soulkey losing to Sharp would be the most unexpected thing that could happen so far.
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[AS]Rattus
Profile Joined March 2017
427 Posts
December 07 2018 16:09 GMT
#91
more unexpected than rain vs sharp?
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
December 07 2018 17:09 GMT
#92
soulkey played really well....last on the other hand. jesus. Lots of tiny but game breaking mistakes, no repair on the bunker game 4 for instance. He's always been a nervous player further into leagues though.
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Nematocyst
Profile Joined October 2017
United States164 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-07 17:42:26
December 07 2018 17:38 GMT
#93
On December 08 2018 00:32 Rodya wrote:
I wonder if Last had some psychological issue for the match. He got so much hate for beating Jaedong just using 1-1-1 every game. ... I just wonder if he wanted to play these special strategies because of the fans.


He did get hate for that. Interesting idea, but I think SK doesn't have anything like a Jaedong fanbase.

I'm still assimilating what happened. Maybe he overthought things or underestimated SK's resourcefulness. I thought on this matchup for a few days and ultimately decided Last would be saying: Ok, this isn't Effort, I can do 1-1-1 builds. I've been working on some refinements that should work against Soulkey. Let's do that.

And I thought that would work. Didn't expect 2-port wraith to be a "refinement" though. Back to the drawing board I guess.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 07 2018 19:05 GMT
#94
On December 08 2018 00:32 Rodya wrote:
I wonder if Last had some psychological issue for the match. He got so much hate for beating Jaedong just using 1-1-1 every game. Maybe he told himself that he'd rather lose than win that way again just because of the fan hate. I don't know I haven't been watching Lasts' stream. I just wonder if he wanted to play these special strategies because of the fans.

At any rate, Soulkey losing to Sharp would be the most unexpected thing that could happen so far.


Wtf
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-07 20:03:13
December 07 2018 19:33 GMT
#95
Wow, Last kinda fumbled but Soulkey showed some mad skills here!

Question: Are Last's builds supposed to be strong against aggressive anti 1-1-1 Zerg openings? There's got to be some rationale for his choice, he played like he was the underdog but he should feel like he is right?
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Yanokabo
Profile Joined October 2018
268 Posts
December 07 2018 20:31 GMT
#96
2 port wraith just isn’t a good build unless it surprises the the opponent
AF0x
Profile Joined June 2018
United States59 Posts
December 07 2018 20:38 GMT
#97
Gotta say I'm glad that Soulkey advanced so that we're dodging a bo7 TvT final, but wow, I was really underwhelmed by Last's showing. Especially given how their last ro4 series went in the first season of KSL, I was pretty surprised to see Last playing so poorly. Well played and deserved win for Soulkey, just wish the games had been more exciting.
J. Corsair
Profile Joined June 2014
United States470 Posts
December 07 2018 21:05 GMT
#98
Something up with Last. Can't believe the hate he got from JD fans but it clearly had a profound impact. Hopefully he can recover his previous form. I know he has been struggling physically, lately, as well.
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whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-07 21:33:17
December 07 2018 21:32 GMT
#99
I think Last is going to military soon. He has been cancelling streams due severe pain, said that he couldn't sleep because of wristpain. Today showed it, bad control and strange decissions.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 07 2018 21:43 GMT
#100
On December 08 2018 06:32 whaski wrote:
I think Last is going to military soon. He has been cancelling streams due severe pain, said that he couldn't sleep because of wristpain. Today showed it, bad control and strange decissions.


oh if he has been suffering from pains and aches that explains his cheeses...
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