EPTPGT - Season VIII MOTS - Page 4
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Starparty
Sweden1963 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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Pat
Canada721 Posts
On April 08 2006 04:43 Starparty wrote: the fact remains that about 130 000 games has been played on Sattarchasm. I dont think people played just because they get 10pts more than normal MotW. who plays something that isnt fun? Yep and the idea behind MOTS is just to bring more diversity because pro maps are nice but having a new map for those who like to try new stuff is nice too  | ||
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ZpuX
Sweden1230 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On April 08 2006 06:32 Pat wrote: Yep and the idea behind MOTS is just to bring more diversity because pro maps are nice but having a new map for those who like to try new stuff is nice too the added bonus is enough to make all the annoying newbs demand it (there was plenty of sattarchasm only early season when i played and im sure theres even more now) which is just a pain in the ass for people who dont want to play annoying cutesy unproven most likely imbalanced maps. theres nothing wrong with having them as motw as long as there are pro maps motw at same time with same bonus, but one map for the entire season with additional incentive? | ||
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
and there are pro maps as motw for the entire season. the extra bonus is pretty neglible as well with only 10 more points. I think it was great that so many games were played on sattarchasm though. if you dont want to play on an annoying cutesy unproven most likely imbalaced map then you dont have to play the mots. when i played pgt (start of the season) there were a lot of people who didn't play on sattarchasm+ whatsoever, so i don't see what you're complaining about. theres pretty much no difference between people playing sattarchasm only and people playing only on some other map either. if you dont want to play on sattarchasm then you ignore those spamming for sattarchasm only, the same way you avoid playing on some other maps that you dont like personally, i found it refreshing playing on different maps. sattarchasm was actually a decent map. towards the end of the season i believe the stats of map began to even out, which is contrary to all those protoss players whining about how impossible it is to play on it in every matchup (the race of men huh) | ||
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Pat
Canada721 Posts
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Yogurt
United States4258 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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InfectedMind
Bulgaria78 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20178 Posts
On April 08 2006 07:57 HungZerg wrote: look at how many people played comet or w/e other "non-standard" maps were motw for previous seasons. the extra 10 points makes a very significant difference in how much its played. and the map balance stats mean very little, most koreans dont play sattar or dont play it much, meaning its mainly newbs on it (stats from people who dont know how to play = meaningless) I'd like your source to this information, which is probably out of your ass. | ||
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puLs.ReADy
Bulgaria1301 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On April 08 2006 08:38 decafchicken wrote: I'd like your source to this information, which is probably out of your ass. common sense. koreans (good ones - high amateurs/semi pros) play pgt for practice. what do they practice? the maps they have to play in leagues and with their teams (omg!) which maps are those? not sattarchasm! which leaves you with bad koreans and non koreans. the vast majority of non koreans are bad, if you want to debate that fact you are clueless. meaning you have the bad koreans who dont really care (because the ones who want to get good play the courage maps) and non koreans, most of whom are bad, playing sattarchasm. and if you want to go even further alot of the good non koreans (not the people newb bashing to look good) who play pgt for practice want to play with koreans as they are the good players, meaning they play on the maps the koreans play on (not sattarchasm) | ||
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InfectedMind
Bulgaria78 Posts
 . I just hope it's not the Matrix club again  . | ||
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InfectedMind
Bulgaria78 Posts
Now HungZerg, tell me then how an European map can become a pro map? Every map have to start from somewhere. You can't just make a map and put it directly in to the OGN map pack or something like this... Only koreans are doing this with only koreans maps. So is PGTour a Korean league? NO! Then what is the problem to put a european map in the PGTour map pack. I don't give a shit if koreans will play or not. They have so many tournaments and leagues, they are not crying that Sattarchasm is in the PGTour map pool. They just don't care, because they have their own map packs in their own leagues. You are an amrican. Why NBA is not crying about some rules and shits all around the world about Basketball? Because they don't care, and they don't need anything! They just play in USA, have the big money in their pockets and thats it. The same is in Korea, but it's StarCraft, not BasketBall. So lets get on the topic what map will be a MotS, i don't care if you want a MotS map or not. And i am sure that many others don't care also. | ||
jkillashark
United States5262 Posts
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
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cuteFayth
Canada1167 Posts
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
On April 08 2006 08:06 InfectedMind wrote: There is to worlds in Star Craft. The World and Korea. So i am not suprused that Korea don't care about anything outside their cuntry. How should i call this? Rasism? Yeah, I'd say racism is a good word to describe your attitude. I'm sure there is a lot of non-professional activity that goes on in Korea that you don't care about. Do you care about the korean non-professional map-making scene? Firstly, you should expect EVERYONE to care more about the SC scene in their own country than in the rest of the world. And there is already a LOT of stuff going on in the Korean scene, a lot more than just the pro tournies that we hear about. We, "The World", aren't innocent of this either: how many people here are interested in the ASEAN league results, for example? How many people are interested in the StarCraft scene within countries that send PGT D-level players to WCG every year? And then there's the language barrier. If their korean SC news sites don't report on any outside-of-korean news, how can any of them possibly be aware of what goes on outside of korea? Speaking of the news sites, how should they divide their time? To be honest I don't really know what kind of news goes up there, but I wouldn't be surprised if they give attention to lesser-known korean tournaments over many of our own, considering that a) the players are from korea, b) their main audience is koreans and, like any other site, they enjoy promoting their own visitors, and c) the skill levels are probably about the same anyway, if not higher in the korean ones. | ||
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