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Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
December 11 2012 01:21 GMT
#801
sB reps we don't have them all, I have + Show Spoiler +
all of icedraco's reps, but not the other...three?
I'll ask again in our Skype group for them.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 11 2012 02:08 GMT
#802
Just waiting to get Hyeon's rep(s) and then I can start the cast. Thanks for the help folks!
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2610 Posts
December 11 2012 07:52 GMT
#803
I am not at home at the moment, so cannot really enforce stuff, but I ll try to reach Hyeon to get him to upload.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
Hyeon
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Korea (South)462 Posts
December 11 2012 09:00 GMT
#804
oh

i'm going home 2-3 hrs later, will give you replay.
oO
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2503 Posts
December 11 2012 13:04 GMT
#805
This is a special song just for Stealth Bunnies:



See you on the battlefield GG NO RE
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 11 2012 21:15 GMT
#806
Replays have been acquired!

I will be casting this in 45 minutes. sB v TAKK + Courage v MannerHatch
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-11 22:13:48
December 11 2012 22:02 GMT
#807
LIVE (twitch.tv/l_master)

EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 12 2012 00:49 GMT
#808
VOD
+ Show Spoiler [sB v TAKK] +
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
CityShuffle
Profile Joined November 2012
France57 Posts
December 12 2012 13:31 GMT
#809
On December 11 2012 08:42 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 08:24 EchOne wrote:
Sorry about that. Week 5's Team Courage vs Team Freedom/Manner Hatch should be uploaded now.
+ Show Spoiler +
Only one actual replay so not much to cast :/


+ Show Spoiler +
I'll cast it alongside the sB/TAKK reps in that case.


+ Show Spoiler [Liquipedia Question] +
Looking at the standings in liquipedia propechy_ was credited with 4 wins. This is actually something I can see going either way on the one hand he didn't have the opportunity to play those games and thus lost the opportunity to go 4-0. At the same time...he didn't play, and therefore win, those games. We have no idea if he would have won or lost had games actually been played.

While this is a little less of an issue for the league itself (unless people are really concerned about things like MVP), the big issue would be that it is very likely Birdie will pull many of the results from liquipedia for his Glicko rankings...and it really would make no sense to include walkover wins as part of a ranking system.


+ Show Spoiler [Liquipedia Question] +
Unless i missed something, the current stats of prophecy_ dont involve the w/o of his team, he won 4-0(week1), then 1-1(week2) ,then a win against redaxis(week5), yes after this last win his team got a w/o but he didnt receive any win for thoses game, his stat show 6-1, which are the game he played)
So i dont really see why he should be awarded of thoses w/o win ? his team get the points.
My pov about this w/o is that w/o is a team win, not a personal win,
Same for Flo in my team, got a w/o against takk after his first win against redaxis, why award him 4win ?.

And well, as for this league, competition is fun to some (alot?) of us i guess, win/loss is what make the game enjoyable, so basically MVP is still a cute thing to cheer up for, maybe some team want they ace to get the MVP by let them play everygame, actually we didnt, but still, its fun to see a ranking between player !.

Sorry for my bad english, i just wanted to share my thought. dont see offense anywhere also.
Welcome to Paris City Shuffle !
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
December 12 2012 15:01 GMT
#810
On December 12 2012 22:31 CityShuffle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 08:42 L_Master wrote:
On December 11 2012 08:24 EchOne wrote:
Sorry about that. Week 5's Team Courage vs Team Freedom/Manner Hatch should be uploaded now.
+ Show Spoiler +
Only one actual replay so not much to cast :/


+ Show Spoiler +
I'll cast it alongside the sB/TAKK reps in that case.


+ Show Spoiler [Liquipedia Question] +
Looking at the standings in liquipedia propechy_ was credited with 4 wins. This is actually something I can see going either way on the one hand he didn't have the opportunity to play those games and thus lost the opportunity to go 4-0. At the same time...he didn't play, and therefore win, those games. We have no idea if he would have won or lost had games actually been played.

While this is a little less of an issue for the league itself (unless people are really concerned about things like MVP), the big issue would be that it is very likely Birdie will pull many of the results from liquipedia for his Glicko rankings...and it really would make no sense to include walkover wins as part of a ranking system.


+ Show Spoiler [Liquipedia Question] +
Unless i missed something, the current stats of prophecy_ dont involve the w/o of his team, he won 4-0(week1), then 1-1(week2) ,then a win against redaxis(week5), yes after this last win his team got a w/o but he didnt receive any win for thoses game, his stat show 6-1, which are the game he played)
So i dont really see why he should be awarded of thoses w/o win ? his team get the points.
My pov about this w/o is that w/o is a team win, not a personal win,
Same for Flo in my team, got a w/o against takk after his first win against redaxis, why award him 4win ?.

And well, as for this league, competition is fun to some (alot?) of us i guess, win/loss is what make the game enjoyable, so basically MVP is still a cute thing to cheer up for, maybe some team want they ace to get the MVP by let them play everygame, actually we didnt, but still, its fun to see a ranking between player !.

Sorry for my bad english, i just wanted to share my thought. dont see offense anywhere also.

Walkovers aren't counted in the individual ranking standings. They're just there for formatting. Also, for Birdie's ranking, I think he takes into account who the person plays, so he'll have to look through the results of each week anyways. Although, if he wants the spreadsheet of all the players standings instead of just the top 10, I have them.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 12:23:53
December 13 2012 08:22 GMT
#811
On December 13 2012 00:01 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 22:31 CityShuffle wrote:
On December 11 2012 08:42 L_Master wrote:
On December 11 2012 08:24 EchOne wrote:
Sorry about that. Week 5's Team Courage vs Team Freedom/Manner Hatch should be uploaded now.
+ Show Spoiler +
Only one actual replay so not much to cast :/


+ Show Spoiler +
I'll cast it alongside the sB/TAKK reps in that case.


+ Show Spoiler [Liquipedia Question] +
Looking at the standings in liquipedia propechy_ was credited with 4 wins. This is actually something I can see going either way on the one hand he didn't have the opportunity to play those games and thus lost the opportunity to go 4-0. At the same time...he didn't play, and therefore win, those games. We have no idea if he would have won or lost had games actually been played.

While this is a little less of an issue for the league itself (unless people are really concerned about things like MVP), the big issue would be that it is very likely Birdie will pull many of the results from liquipedia for his Glicko rankings...and it really would make no sense to include walkover wins as part of a ranking system.


+ Show Spoiler [Liquipedia Question] +
Unless i missed something, the current stats of prophecy_ dont involve the w/o of his team, he won 4-0(week1), then 1-1(week2) ,then a win against redaxis(week5), yes after this last win his team got a w/o but he didnt receive any win for thoses game, his stat show 6-1, which are the game he played)
So i dont really see why he should be awarded of thoses w/o win ? his team get the points.
My pov about this w/o is that w/o is a team win, not a personal win,
Same for Flo in my team, got a w/o against takk after his first win against redaxis, why award him 4win ?.

And well, as for this league, competition is fun to some (alot?) of us i guess, win/loss is what make the game enjoyable, so basically MVP is still a cute thing to cheer up for, maybe some team want they ace to get the MVP by let them play everygame, actually we didnt, but still, its fun to see a ranking between player !.

Sorry for my bad english, i just wanted to share my thought. dont see offense anywhere also.

Walkovers aren't counted in the individual ranking standings. They're just there for formatting. Also, for Birdie's ranking, I think he takes into account who the person plays, so he'll have to look through the results of each week anyways. Although, if he wants the spreadsheet of all the players standings instead of just the top 10, I have them.

The ranking looks accurate, atleast now. Didn't prophecy all-kill some team? That's why he has so many wins.

I have a suggestion about the ranking though, in that you change it to be based on the difference between wins and losses.
So basically:
4-0 is better than 5-2.

And if they have the same win/loss difference, you either go by most wins or the least losses.

This is not a big deal, but I think that system would be more accurate in terms of determining who the strong players are.
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
December 13 2012 15:38 GMT
#812
On December 13 2012 17:22 ninini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 00:01 Nagisama wrote:
On December 12 2012 22:31 CityShuffle wrote:
On December 11 2012 08:42 L_Master wrote:
On December 11 2012 08:24 EchOne wrote:
Sorry about that. Week 5's Team Courage vs Team Freedom/Manner Hatch should be uploaded now.
+ Show Spoiler +
Only one actual replay so not much to cast :/


+ Show Spoiler +
I'll cast it alongside the sB/TAKK reps in that case.


+ Show Spoiler [Liquipedia Question] +
Looking at the standings in liquipedia propechy_ was credited with 4 wins. This is actually something I can see going either way on the one hand he didn't have the opportunity to play those games and thus lost the opportunity to go 4-0. At the same time...he didn't play, and therefore win, those games. We have no idea if he would have won or lost had games actually been played.

While this is a little less of an issue for the league itself (unless people are really concerned about things like MVP), the big issue would be that it is very likely Birdie will pull many of the results from liquipedia for his Glicko rankings...and it really would make no sense to include walkover wins as part of a ranking system.


+ Show Spoiler [Liquipedia Question] +
Unless i missed something, the current stats of prophecy_ dont involve the w/o of his team, he won 4-0(week1), then 1-1(week2) ,then a win against redaxis(week5), yes after this last win his team got a w/o but he didnt receive any win for thoses game, his stat show 6-1, which are the game he played)
So i dont really see why he should be awarded of thoses w/o win ? his team get the points.
My pov about this w/o is that w/o is a team win, not a personal win,
Same for Flo in my team, got a w/o against takk after his first win against redaxis, why award him 4win ?.

And well, as for this league, competition is fun to some (alot?) of us i guess, win/loss is what make the game enjoyable, so basically MVP is still a cute thing to cheer up for, maybe some team want they ace to get the MVP by let them play everygame, actually we didnt, but still, its fun to see a ranking between player !.

Sorry for my bad english, i just wanted to share my thought. dont see offense anywhere also.

Walkovers aren't counted in the individual ranking standings. They're just there for formatting. Also, for Birdie's ranking, I think he takes into account who the person plays, so he'll have to look through the results of each week anyways. Although, if he wants the spreadsheet of all the players standings instead of just the top 10, I have them.

The ranking looks accurate, atleast now. Didn't prophecy all-kill some team? That's why he has so many wins.

I have a suggestion about the ranking though, in that you change it to be based on the difference between wins and losses.
So basically:
4-0 is better than 5-2.

And if they have the same win/loss difference, you either go by most wins or the least losses.

This is not a big deal, but I think that system would be more accurate in terms of determining who the strong players are.

I'll try something like this for next week after results are in.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Yokipi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States6 Posts
December 13 2012 20:51 GMT
#813
Team Freedom might need some help or a rescheduling for this week. This is the third consecutive Saturday that I will not be able to attend, and because a lot of us attend school, it seems that finals week hits roughly at around the same period and causes a massive drop in attendance.

I have not talked to RedAxis, the captain, about this, though, so whatever he suggests would be the final say; this is just from my perspective since our last two weeks were WOs.

I and others should be completely available again starting the following week however.
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
December 13 2012 21:02 GMT
#814
On December 14 2012 05:51 Yokipi wrote:
Team Freedom might need some help or a rescheduling for this week. This is the third consecutive Saturday that I will not be able to attend, and because a lot of us attend school, it seems that finals week hits roughly at around the same period and causes a massive drop in attendance.

I have not talked to RedAxis, the captain, about this, though, so whatever he suggests would be the final say; this is just from my perspective since our last two weeks were WOs.

I and others should be completely available again starting the following week however.


I don't like how rescheduling might mess up the results for other teams, and we'll be postponing someone else's time for our good... The last week will be a good time for all of us to play!
twitch.tv/dizzywee
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
December 13 2012 21:40 GMT
#815
Sorry to hear about your attendance difficulties, Yokipi. My offer to play out the rest of our series still stands until results need to be tabulated for playoffs, assuming organizers are ok with that. We have some players embroiled in exams too but they should be wrapping up soon.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
SlowBullets
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States839 Posts
December 13 2012 23:34 GMT
#816
Sun Kan is the ACE of this league, lol
1:1 go sc2 LAN? Oh wait...
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2503 Posts
December 13 2012 23:49 GMT
#817
On December 14 2012 08:34 SlowBullets wrote:
Sun Kan is the ACE of this league, lol


and ACE is the Samsung KHAN ^^
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
December 13 2012 23:53 GMT
#818
ACE has been tearing it up this season compared to previous DRTLs.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
December 14 2012 01:12 GMT
#819
+ Show Spoiler +
ACE's Zergs have gone 14-3, that's amazing...
twitch.tv/dizzywee
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
December 14 2012 02:42 GMT
#820
Lets see if they can keep it up when those with a courageous heart of justice eats all of their waifus and shits explosions all over the place.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
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