• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 19:51
CET 01:51
KST 09:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0224LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)43Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker13PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)17
StarCraft 2
General
Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? StarCraft 1 & 2 Added to Xbox Game Pass Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Terran Scanner Sweep
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) WardiTV Team League Season 10 PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026 StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea TvZ is the most complete match up Which units you wish saw more use in the game? Ladder maps - how we can make blizz update them? BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Diablo 2 thread Path of Exile Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Search For Meaning in Vi…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2597 users

[MSL] Ro32 Group C - Page 45

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 43 44 45 All
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17277 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-25 19:26:37
December 25 2010 19:19 GMT
#881
rofl

craton stream fail last night

I may have messed up some timers and batch files.
twitch.tv/cratonz
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
December 25 2010 19:34 GMT
#882
On December 26 2010 04:19 Craton wrote:
rofl

craton stream fail last night

I may have messed up some timers and batch files.


There is also a positive thing in your stream's death I think, many people (including me) learned how to use PLU
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
HitoriTomoyo
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada264 Posts
December 25 2010 19:52 GMT
#883
Fantasy was somewhat expected; his vZ match-up is pretty shaky. He really should work on that as his other match-ups are far more stable than his vZ match-up, especially his vP (I would even go as far as to claim that only Stork would actually win against Fantasy in a Bo5 on a consistent basis; no other Protoss can touch Fantasy in a Bo5).

Leta I'm surprised about; I don't know much about Leta but isn't Leta supposed to be really good in the TvZ match-up? What happened?
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-25 20:07:52
December 25 2010 20:06 GMT
#884
On December 26 2010 04:52 HitoriTomoyo wrote:
Fantasy was somewhat expected; his vZ match-up is pretty shaky. He really should work on that as his other match-ups are far more stable than his vZ match-up, especially his vP (I would even go as far as to claim that only Stork would actually win against Fantasy in a Bo5 on a consistent basis; no other Protoss can touch Fantasy in a Bo5).

Leta I'm surprised about; I don't know much about Leta but isn't Leta supposed to be really good in the TvZ match-up? What happened?


He did a non-economic proxy rax opening (was scouted) and then died to 3hatch speedlings.

In losers match he faced Fantasy and, despite having a significant advantage at one point, lost all his supply depots and then got outnumbered.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
December 25 2010 20:40 GMT
#885
As soon as Modesty slammed him in the OSL Fantasy has been doing terribly.

No more lame silver medalist running around. I've been waiting for Fantasy to turn into a bad player for so long and it's finally happening. A dream come true.

I did hope for a better showing from Leta. Great busting through was not unexpected in the least, but despite some success this season, I thought Soulkey wouldn't have what it takes. Serious props to him for dishing it out. I'm going to watch the Fantasy games as soon as possible. Hurrah!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 25 2010 21:59 GMT
#886
SOOUULLKKEEYYY!!!!!!!!

Sad Fanta didn't make it through, was hoping he and Soulkey would make it through.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
December 25 2010 22:23 GMT
#887
On December 26 2010 03:58 Bisu-Fan wrote:
man... no flash wanted Fanta to advance...
BISU I BELIEVE!!!!


shine
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
December 25 2010 22:47 GMT
#888
On December 26 2010 04:52 HitoriTomoyo wrote:
Fantasy was somewhat expected; his vZ match-up is pretty shaky. He really should work on that as his other match-ups are far more stable than his vZ match-up, especially his vP (I would even go as far as to claim that only Stork would actually win against Fantasy in a Bo5 on a consistent basis; no other Protoss can touch Fantasy in a Bo5).

Leta I'm surprised about; I don't know much about Leta but isn't Leta supposed to be really good in the TvZ match-up? What happened?


Your knowledge seems very out-dated.

Fantasy used to be unable to play TvZ "normally" but more recently his bionic has actually become pretty good. He's #5 in TvZ ELO and was actually #3 a few days ago. 30-18 (63%) in 2010, 16-6 in the past 6 months (73%), 16-4 (80%!!!) coming into last night's games. So, yeah...

Leta used to be known for his awesome wraith play and his good control. Then zergs figured out how to stop his wraiths. #8 in TvZ ELO, and that's riding the back of a recent win streak. 18-15 (55%) in 2010, 9-8 (53%) in the past 6 months. He's been struggling lately.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
December 25 2010 22:51 GMT
#889
Fantasy sure does have a weakness against Soulkey for some reason.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 25 2010 22:51 GMT
#890
Great is the best Hive tech ZvZer, not doubt. The Woongjin zergs ain't got nothing on him.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
December 26 2010 00:07 GMT
#891
wow this makes me sad. leta......
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
pieisamazing
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1234 Posts
December 26 2010 00:18 GMT
#892
Some pretty entertaining games. Glad I could watch despite the stream going out.
connoisseur
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
December 26 2010 00:59 GMT
#893
On December 26 2010 09:07 vectorix108 wrote:
wow this makes me sad. leta......


To be fair, Leta shouldn't have cheesed vs Great and I think he wasn't warmed up properly from that failed rush.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Deekin[
Profile Joined December 2010
Serbia1713 Posts
December 27 2010 00:23 GMT
#894
No Leta nooooooooooooooo!!

But fuck yes Fantasy out, Kal/Stork for title now! :D
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ CJ Entus fighting! I am a Leta, Hydra, Mind and (ofcourse) Firebathero fan. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
December 27 2010 01:11 GMT
#895
It is a sad day in the Starleagues when two top terrans get eliminated by zergs.

But then again, these aren't just ANY zergs. These are zergs who went hive tech.
Jaedong plz
Geographer
Profile Joined December 2010
United States185 Posts
December 27 2010 03:11 GMT
#896
Any VODs for these games posted yet? From the sound of them I really want to watch them.
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
December 29 2010 20:08 GMT
#897
On December 25 2010 20:02 darktreb wrote:
Wow Fantasy what the hell?

He absolutely could have won this game had he played in any non brain-dead way. I'm not even a Fantasy fan but it's always interesting to see him play BoX's, and to see him go out like this is just infuriating. It's games like this that show why he'll never be better than Flash, ugh. What happened to doing a mech transition during the 15 minutes where he was on Soulkey's side of the map? At least secure the other main?

And in the Triathlon game, never taking a third base (including his own back natural, sure Soulkey had Guardians but Fanta had two Starports and even some Turrets would buy enough time to get Vessels or Wraiths over at any point...) as if there was a chance in the world he could break 4 base Lurker/Guardian with two base SK Terran?

Just absolutely atrocious, stubborn play by Fantasy. It's as if someone bet him he couldn't get out of this group playing only SK Terran.
Look at the map, the mid is totally open. This isnt Match Point, Polaris Rhapsody, aka the korean air OSL mechfest maps. Going mech is a no go, way too immobile and open to flanks, even late game.
On December 25 2010 20:03 baubo wrote:
That was a disgrace of a performance by Fantasy.

1. Terran with one less or equal bases to zerg? Check!
2. Terran with total map control? Check!
3. Terran with gazillion imba vessels? Check!
4. Zerg making the stupid mistake of forgetting adrenal glands? Check!

How does a terran lose that? HOW?
fantasy played solid, you gotta look at Soulkey. He was the reason: excellent defiler control, he is the best z in the world at this; solid decision making, good unit econ balance
On December 25 2010 21:19 darktreb wrote:
While it's true Fantasy could probably have ended the game had he executed the break properly, it doesn't mean that he was extremely behind after that point, and indeed was actually way ahead for probably the entire midgame but just kept doing just enough dumb things constantly (literally we're talking about just brain dead things that are really really bad by pro standards) to let Soulkey hang in there. How long did he have to secure the other main/natural? How many chances did he have to get some Vultures and Mines, or Tanks? How many times did he suicide a bajillion infantry trying to use D-Matrixed Firebats to break through Swarms?
Again, look at the map bro, this aint the mech-fest maps of last two OSL seasons.
Aah thats the stuff..
Deekin[
Profile Joined December 2010
Serbia1713 Posts
December 30 2010 01:56 GMT
#898
Fanta is slumping so hard lately............. Its quite bad
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ CJ Entus fighting! I am a Leta, Hydra, Mind and (ofcourse) Firebathero fan. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Prev 1 43 44 45 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
00:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #17.5
CranKy Ducklings93
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 181
SpeCial 62
RuFF_SC2 57
Nathanias 39
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 778
NaDa 14
Dota 2
monkeys_forever437
420jenkins361
NeuroSwarm153
League of Legends
Reynor270
Counter-Strike
shahzam479
Foxcn407
taco 336
adren_tv76
Other Games
summit1g11506
Maynarde135
KnowMe91
Trikslyr72
JuggernautJason17
minikerr2
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV164
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21684
League of Legends
• Scarra1481
Other Games
• imaqtpie1711
• Shiphtur237
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Winter Champion…
11h 10m
PiGosaur Cup
1d
Replay Cast
1d 8h
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d 11h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Maru vs Bunny
Classic vs SHIN
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
2 days
OSC
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
Clem vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Epic.LAN
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
herO vs NightMare
Reynor vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Epic.LAN
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
5 days
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-16
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.