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[TSL] PS.com Semi Finals Day 2 - Page 11

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Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
February 21 2010 20:07 GMT
#201
yeah Mondragon has been like this since ever!

before match: "i am just the underdog, my opponent is so strong...."

after match: " I was just very lucky and somehow i beat my opponent...."

Hahaha, mondi ofc...

Yea Finals will be EPIC, the 2 most smartest players in the FINALS

( i would also say nicest guys if there was no guy called white-ra haha)

Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
February 21 2010 20:08 GMT
#202
Mondragon's ZvP gives me chills
MrBitter: Phoenixes... They're like flying hellions. Always cost efficient.
maareek
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2042 Posts
February 21 2010 20:08 GMT
#203
Short but sweet semis. Love the results, though; it's not every event there's a finals where I'll be extremely happy with a win by either player. Third place match should be pretty awesome, as well.
FrozenArbiter: Obless PvT master
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
February 21 2010 20:08 GMT
#204
oh damn, the finals are going to be SO FUCKING EPIC
boomer hands
HowitZer
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1610 Posts
February 21 2010 20:09 GMT
#205
The word zergling and phrase zergling speed just took a whole new meaning for me. ZvZ is really fun to watch all of a sudden.
Human teleportation, molecular decimation, breakdown and reformation is inherently purging. It makes a man acute.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8119 Posts
February 21 2010 20:09 GMT
#206
My God poor Sen.

Mind over mechanics. Anyway.

I was a bit confused by Mondi's muta micro in game 2. This horribad muta vs scourge control could have costed him the game. That's surprising cuz his zvt muta micro has been simply amazing.

This victory is good news: in foreigners realm, creativivty and unexpected situations management are still amongst the most useful skills toi have.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
February 21 2010 20:11 GMT
#207
Day[9] and Tasteless don't cast together because the universe couldn't handle the Plott brothers on the same stream.

Seriously how awesome would that be?

Tasteless: Protoss player Nony: Protoss player
Day[9]: Zerg player Mondragon : Zerg player
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
TheFallofTroy
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada780 Posts
February 21 2010 20:14 GMT
#208
Nice nice, Nony and Mondragon won. I can't wait to see these two play my favourite match-up (PvZ).

This should be so good and congratulations to Mondragon for winning today : )
^_^V
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-21 20:23:26
February 21 2010 20:18 GMT
#209
Fast games, but still pretty fun. My analysis:

Game 1: Overpool > 9 pool

Game 2: Bad multi-tasking by Sen + great decision making by Mondragon (pulling two reinforcements back to defend; granted he was lucky to have scouted them)

Game 3: 9 pool > Overgas + Research Zergling Speed first, but really bad decision making on Sen's part doing that on a 3-player map while knowing that Mondragon has played fast zerglings for the last two games
kernipu
Profile Joined February 2007
Germany193 Posts
February 21 2010 20:19 GMT
#210
On February 22 2010 05:11 ShaperofDreams wrote:
Day[9] and Tasteless don't cast together because the universe couldn't handle the Plott brothers on the same stream.

Seriously how awesome would that be?

Tasteless: Protoss player Nony: Protoss player
Day[9]: Zerg player Mondragon : Zerg player


Nooo! Shut it up. We want Chill and you know it ^^
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
February 21 2010 20:21 GMT
#211
On February 22 2010 05:18 Azarkon wrote:
Fast games, but still pretty fun. My analysis:

Game 1: Overpool > 9 pool

Game 2: Bad multi-tasking by Sen + great decision making by Mondragon (pulling two reinforcements back to defend; granted he was lucky to have scouted them)

Game 3: 9 pool > Overgas, but really bad decision making on Sen's part going overgas on a 3-player map while knowing that Mondragon has played fast zerglings for the last two games


Overgaspool usually beats 9pool...
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
February 21 2010 20:21 GMT
#212
I remember how around the same day the TSL announcement was made Nony and Infernal were talking about how good Mondi was vs reaver sair. Nony said that he'd have to try and make it far to try reaver sair against him and here they are in the finals. Fuckin psychics !!!
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
February 21 2010 20:22 GMT
#213
On February 22 2010 05:21 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2010 05:18 Azarkon wrote:
Fast games, but still pretty fun. My analysis:

Game 1: Overpool > 9 pool

Game 2: Bad multi-tasking by Sen + great decision making by Mondragon (pulling two reinforcements back to defend; granted he was lucky to have scouted them)

Game 3: 9 pool > Overgas, but really bad decision making on Sen's part going overgas on a 3-player map while knowing that Mondragon has played fast zerglings for the last two games


Overgaspool usually beats 9pool...


It doesn't if you research zergling speed first. Edited to reflect that.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
February 21 2010 20:24 GMT
#214
On February 22 2010 05:22 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2010 05:21 SuperArc wrote:
On February 22 2010 05:18 Azarkon wrote:
Fast games, but still pretty fun. My analysis:

Game 1: Overpool > 9 pool

Game 2: Bad multi-tasking by Sen + great decision making by Mondragon (pulling two reinforcements back to defend; granted he was lucky to have scouted them)

Game 3: 9 pool > Overgas, but really bad decision making on Sen's part going overgas on a 3-player map while knowing that Mondragon has played fast zerglings for the last two games


Overgaspool usually beats 9pool...


It doesn't if you research zergling speed first. Edited to reflect that.


It was horrible decision making from sen to make lair AND speed before lings.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
February 21 2010 20:28 GMT
#215
Unfortunately Mondragon will win against Nony in the finals unless he doesn't practice ZvP much and Nony is in great shape with his PvZ.

That matchup is just hard like that, especially to win a bigger BO.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
February 21 2010 20:32 GMT
#216
I think I give Nony a significant edge against Mondi just because he's really good at making weird builds work and Mondi is practicing for regular protoss stuff.

If he even gets 1 game from a weird build that could be the difference.
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
February 21 2010 20:36 GMT
#217
That would depend on whether you believe Mondragon when he says he's going to practice standard Protoss. We all know Mondragon has a habit of downplaying himself
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
February 21 2010 20:44 GMT
#218
On February 22 2010 05:24 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2010 05:22 Azarkon wrote:
On February 22 2010 05:21 SuperArc wrote:
On February 22 2010 05:18 Azarkon wrote:
Fast games, but still pretty fun. My analysis:

Game 1: Overpool > 9 pool

Game 2: Bad multi-tasking by Sen + great decision making by Mondragon (pulling two reinforcements back to defend; granted he was lucky to have scouted them)

Game 3: 9 pool > Overgas, but really bad decision making on Sen's part going overgas on a 3-player map while knowing that Mondragon has played fast zerglings for the last two games


Overgaspool usually beats 9pool...


It doesn't if you research zergling speed first. Edited to reflect that.


It was horrible decision making from sen to make lair AND speed before lings.

That's standard in overgas9pool.

See http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=31861

And people need to stop throwing out such blanket statements as one build beating another if they can't even distinguish in variations of builds (ie overgas9pool and overgas11pool are two completely different things and have much different objectives) or identify that it wasn't the build for someone losing (also maps can change things completely with the rush distances) but rather the decision making/micro of both players (see andromeda game for example)
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Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-21 20:52:40
February 21 2010 20:51 GMT
#219
On February 22 2010 05:18 Azarkon wrote:
Fast games, but still pretty fun. My analysis:

Game 1: Overpool > 9 pool

Game 2: Bad multi-tasking by Sen + great decision making by Mondragon (pulling two reinforcements back to defend; granted he was lucky to have scouted them)

Game 3: 9 pool > Overgas + Research Zergling Speed first, but really bad decision making on Sen's part doing that on a 3-player map while knowing that Mondragon has played fast zerglings for the last two games


You are completely wrong on game three. I mean, come on, try to watch it again.
Sen rallied his first 2 zerglings into mondi's taking them to red hp. Then the next 2 lings also got hit, again due to the fail rally.
His build was safe vs 9 pool, if he had microed decently.. He might have lost 1 or two drones at max, but that would just make them even since mondi had lower drones due to his 9 pool.

ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Sight
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States148 Posts
February 21 2010 20:54 GMT
#220
Less hype in general for these series. 11 pages?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=72036&currentpage=32

32 for nony and brat_ok, which was also a 3-0
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