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oxidized
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States324 Posts
September 16 2009 12:16 GMT
#81
First off, I'd like to say that I really appreciate it when high level players like you contribute tutorial vods.

That said, I feel that this latest vod leaves a little to be desired. You did go over the build order basics, but did not go into the intricacies of the build. You said this build crushed 2 gate robo expand, but you did not say what the protoss could do to counter the build if they suspected it. You said fast DT or fast reaver might be strong vs this 2 fact, but you did not really elaborate on how the T should modify the build order in case of DT or reaver. I'd like to know more about what is strong vs 2 fact and how I should, as Terran, minimize losses against some DT or reaver opening.

I do enjoy your vods though and please keep them coming.

PS Are you ever going to make that HBR TvP tutorial?
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
September 16 2009 13:09 GMT
#82
Great job Artosis, audio is great now too.

Hoping to see a standard TvP macro game too someday, but really good job, cant wait to try this build out. Its not on liquipedia, so being a rather new player I hadn't really heard about this before.
50bani
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Romania480 Posts
September 16 2009 13:12 GMT
#83
You got so lucky because he was gonna gas steal! Does he ever not gas steal btw?
I'm posting on twoplustwo because I have always been amazed at the level of talent that populates this site --- it's almost unparalleled on the Internet.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
September 16 2009 13:16 GMT
#84
On September 16 2009 22:12 50bani wrote:
You got so lucky because he was gonna gas steal! Does he ever not gas steal btw?


Yeh he always gas steals.
sAviOr...
KP_CollectoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States744 Posts
September 16 2009 22:21 GMT
#85
On September 16 2009 19:20 Ftrunkz wrote:
i thought 2 gate robo was the safest std opening PvT... If that build completely and utterly rapes it, what do i do to be as safe as possible now? D:


You're NEVER safe. We're coming for you ; )
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nicoaldo
Profile Joined March 2009
Argentina939 Posts
September 16 2009 22:34 GMT
#86
On September 16 2009 19:20 Ftrunkz wrote:
i thought 2 gate robo was the safest std opening PvT... If that build completely and utterly rapes it, what do i do to be as safe as possible now? D:


Dt´s are the safest build Pv ... well they rape everything. Just hit K
Espers
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom606 Posts
September 16 2009 23:34 GMT
#87
How would you deal with fast DTs? If you see anything suspcious do you mix in a fast academy? I've seen most 2 facs involve this
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-17 02:02:25
September 17 2009 02:01 GMT
#88
The next video i would like if you could show a commentary of a rep or a fpvod whatever you prefer of the recent dropship style play in tvp.
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Mienio
Profile Joined July 2009
Poland40 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-17 21:49:07
September 17 2009 21:45 GMT
#89
TvZ bionic - that audio quality remind me landing on the moon or something . You have the same mic like in Apollo 11 HA! StarCraft climat " Hello, Artosis here, I'm landing on the Blue Storm" , "...That's one small step for Terran ..." ^.^
Ultimate Ownage
asdfTT123
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States989 Posts
September 18 2009 20:43 GMT
#90
Artosis, this is seriously awesome, especially your 2 fact TvP opening since I'm completely clueless against in TvP. It would be wonderful if you could do a video on TvP flash build or a 6 fact timing push...or any other TvP videos. Thanks!
n.Die_Jaedong <3
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
September 18 2009 20:46 GMT
#91
goddamit
stop creating more cheesy newbies
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
September 18 2009 20:58 GMT
#92
On September 19 2009 05:46 IdrA wrote:
goddamit
stop creating more cheesy newbies

oh lol....
Sc2ggRise
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States607 Posts
September 18 2009 22:53 GMT
#93
nice 2 fac push tutorial, very informative.
Gustav_Wind
Profile Joined July 2008
United States646 Posts
September 18 2009 23:27 GMT
#94
On September 16 2009 19:20 Ftrunkz wrote:
i thought 2 gate robo was the safest std opening PvT... If that build completely and utterly rapes it, what do i do to be as safe as possible now? D:


2 gate robo is generally considered safest because it's safe vs early aggression (such as fd or normal 2 fac). This build is timed to attack later than the normal 2 fac, so the later expansion timing for the protoss makes them more vulnerable to it.

During the video he seemed to imply that a fast tech build would be good against it, like fast dt or reaver. 12 nexus is probably good vs it too.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
September 18 2009 23:59 GMT
#95
2 gate dt is the safest build
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meeny
Profile Joined May 2008
United States40 Posts
September 19 2009 06:04 GMT
#96
the fpvod of bluestorm randomly stops right after your turrets just get up. =( i was loving it so far though
RaptorX
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Germany646 Posts
September 19 2009 06:31 GMT
#97
On September 19 2009 08:59 IdrA wrote:
2 gate dt is the safest build


I also think so.

Also you should never expand if you are not sure what terran is doing, unless you 12 Nex.

I guess his expansion killed him, and even artosis mentioned that "he stopped his dragoon production and expanded" and thats why he got raped.
I won
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
September 19 2009 07:54 GMT
#98
I'd personally love to see more TvP vids - maybe some standard games, as well as some alternative 2 fact or later pushes. TvZ seems much more intuitive, and just easier to play in general, I feel like most terrans have more trouble TvP than TvZ.
prOxi.Beater
Profile Joined December 2008
Denmark626 Posts
September 19 2009 10:32 GMT
#99
On September 16 2009 18:36 Artosis wrote:
New Tutorial, TvP 2factory play. mic also fixed. suggestions always welcome!

Strategic Tutorials
TvP 2factory Tank-heavy rush


I have a question on this build. Why do you keep mining gas after you've ceased siege tank production? Wouldn't it be a lot better to mine more minerals and be able to set up a faster expansion? You're basically just denying yourself a transition into lategame play in order to get more, useless gas. The only thing you need gas for is siege mode, since the tanks never die, but you will almost never have to use siege mode using this build (basically a 4 tank joyo rush)

Big thanks for putting these up, they're very helpful and very interesting!
Nobody beats the Beater
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-19 10:57:55
September 19 2009 10:56 GMT
#100
Am I starting the 2nd factory too late or early? I keep ending up with the 2nd and 3rd tank coming out at the same time (maybe a byproduct of me being used to doing Joyo), so I produce vultures while I wait for the 4th tank, maybe I might aswell build a 5th tank if it doesnt delay my attack?

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Or am I building the 2nd factory too early? Maybe I just forgot to start the vulture upgrades...
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