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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 02 2003 03:53 GMT
#21
yeah its pretty sad that they couldnt tell that was a joke
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
August 02 2003 05:42 GMT
#22
On August 02 2003 03:16 PPV_Jimmy wrote:
scout always--> early and late, know what your opponent is doing, then you can know what strategy to use to counter it. If your opponent seems to be walled up in there main, and content to stay in there, you can bet they are massing some troops...and so on...



Pretty much what you should do in every mu. Scouting is essential. Though I'm not a t player I'd send scout pretty early on. Like 10th scv to scout or something is probably enough. I've seen boxer do dat he uses the scv that finished supply to build up the rax and the scv completing at quite some time (when the supply finishes) to go straight to scout.
River me timbers.
HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
August 02 2003 09:50 GMT
#23
no its pretty sad people on this forum are that dumb that u have to question whther or not it is a joke
z7-Rain : D Block is a rly good rapper, cosmo : mobb deep is a rly good rapper, cosmo : that song notorious thugs by bone and andre nickatana is sick
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
August 02 2003 10:07 GMT
#24
if i go 2 port and scout your 2 fact gol drop ill add a machine shop to my factory and have a tank or 2 when u drop so your d ship and gols will get owned =\ the whole point of 2 port is to counter gol drop so u can expand then contain the other terran asap
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Bl[a]Ze
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada111 Posts
August 02 2003 11:54 GMT
#25
As bases or somoen said, 2 fact gol is the safest build. but it also dpends on ur position, and the map. If u paly temple a lot, 3vs12 or 12vs3 i go dobble tank turret to keep up with his cliff advantage. but i usually end up going gol drops if otehrwise. if your not an expert i wouldnt go dobble wraiths to often unless u KNOW he is going tank push or soemthing. U always want to scout all expos at all palces. If u see that he isnt getting an expo off at his natural then start looking for expos on islands. also ALWAYS GET SCAN EARLY, u must get this, otehrwise u wont know fi hes teching or bc or if your running into 5000 turrets, its better being safe then sorry ( wasting 40 supply of troops in dropships), usually u want to make sure ur expo gets off relatively fast and as well u want ur expo to be sucure, mid game is where true tvst players do tehre magic. u must have hotkeyed ur facts, becuase vs a good terran u will be trying to expo as much as u can, build turrets, and dorp the fuck outa whatever units hes got. u must be quick and use lots of strategy. I fu see his gonig all tanks, go quick bcs and camp. if u see him dropping try and make sure ur expos are turreted nicely so when he trys to drop u he takes heavy losses if you scan and see no dropping whatsoever (which usually on dumbass newbs do) set up mad tanks in his front and jsut take the map . Oh and u sohuld expand to island a lot, islands are very good for getting lots of gas and islands are secure, drop 1 tank and turret the otuside and ur set. cause gas is VERY improtant tvst, u must have a lot in order to build the amount of troops you desire. well, i don t paly terran but i think the info is pretty useful. good luck with it
I SEE YOU said the blind man to the deaf man -.-V
esk0
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden1393 Posts
August 02 2003 12:04 GMT
#26
i never use vults in tvt
i always go 2 fac tanks early contain -> exp
or fast exp
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-02 12:11:02
August 02 2003 12:10 GMT
#27
On August 02 2003 05:15 RickJSanchez wrote:
Blackjack, not everyone can see the whole map when they play, so dont bother giving useless info.

my opinion, msg Hovz and listen to him. he can show up for events and win them.


You are an idiot, let's not forget that you suck.

You have never seen me play, you go by what idiots like HovZ and Madcow say because you want to be their friend.
RickJSanchez
Profile Joined March 2003
United States1585 Posts
August 02 2003 15:18 GMT
#28
sigh, lets not forget that YOU SUCK blackjack, with your hacks, your game isnt even good, and when someone else hacks like in that game yesterday, you cant keep up, i think you get all tipsy in your head.

and as for not seeing you play, i guess replays dont count?
do i have to see you play in a live game instead of whatching a bunch of your replays? sounds sad, but i admit ive whatched 50+ of your replays, and your pvp=gay. i listen to hovz cuz unlike you he knows how to play and isnt a newb, and fuck madcow, he sucks as well. and for being their friend, i could care less, my name isnt Nero, i dont suck dick to be friends with people over bnet.

p.s. sorry nero
pemos1:have u ever heard of me? RickJSanchez:just from wgtour pemos1:o thats it? lol.RickJSanchez:that about it pemosl:wow :[ pemosl:im pretty known on west
x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
August 02 2003 15:32 GMT
#29
My problem in TvT is establishing my 3rd and 4th base. Any tips on that?
ILoveOOv ownZ everyone!!! ~ Lamer List: Mynock, naventus
midwich
Profile Joined December 2002
United Kingdom324 Posts
August 02 2003 15:40 GMT
#30
Hey Hasuwar, that strat guide is excellent - thanks for posting it.
This is not a quote.
iNcontroL88
Profile Joined April 2003
32 Posts
August 02 2003 17:05 GMT
#31
Castle where the hell u been? Come chat and visit with the clan son!
I will be your Huckleberry Doc Holliday
HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-02 17:51:44
August 02 2003 17:51 GMT
#32
sadist i disagree, i think if yu 2 port and ur enemy gol drops then u shouldnt win. 2 port is good v 2 fac tanks
z7-Rain : D Block is a rly good rapper, cosmo : mobb deep is a rly good rapper, cosmo : that song notorious thugs by bone and andre nickatana is sick
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
August 02 2003 18:04 GMT
#33
it depends on the positions, at close positions for example 9/6 6/9 then yes gol drops would beat 2 port but at farther positions 12/6 9/3 gol drop will lose
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
August 02 2003 18:15 GMT
#34
On August 03 2003 00:18 RickJSanchez wrote:
sigh, lets not forget that YOU SUCK blackjack, with your hacks, your game isnt even good, and when someone else hacks like in that game yesterday, you cant keep up, i think you get all tipsy in your head.

and as for not seeing you play, i guess replays dont count?
do i have to see you play in a live game instead of whatching a bunch of your replays? sounds sad, but i admit ive whatched 50+ of your replays, and your pvp=gay. i listen to hovz cuz unlike you he knows how to play and isnt a newb, and fuck madcow, he sucks as well. and for being their friend, i could care less, my name isnt Nero, i dont suck dick to be friends with people over bnet.

p.s. sorry nero


Sorry to tell you this, but a Newbie's opinion doesn't hurt me. We will see at the final Tourney for TLT when YOU CANT HACK who is better. Oh wait.. I'm sorry.. I forgot you suck too much to get into the final tourney. I don't play PvP anymore but my PvP would still own yours anyday.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
August 02 2003 18:16 GMT
#35
On August 02 2003 19:07 Sadist wrote:
if i go 2 port and scout your 2 fact gol drop ill add a machine shop to my factory and have a tank or 2 when u drop so your d ship and gols will get owned =\ the whole point of 2 port is to counter gol drop so u can expand then contain the other terran asap


you could add a control tower and get cloak before gol drop comes
HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
August 02 2003 18:43 GMT
#36
if u add a control tower they can just expo wuith a turret, and ur way behind
z7-Rain : D Block is a rly good rapper, cosmo : mobb deep is a rly good rapper, cosmo : that song notorious thugs by bone and andre nickatana is sick
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