1)For some users may it be difficult you can ask for assistance on FB Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bwapi/ 2)Some A.I. dont run with Multi-ChaosLuncher so you can play them on UDP if you have another computer. 3)Here is the list with all the A.I. s and their stats or win ratio: http://sscaitournament.com/index.php?action=scores 4)Some AI uses .EXE files, in order to run those you must put = null on config file.
Im a amateur D player and here are some games on First Person View
On August 21 2016 09:02 LetaBot wrote: These AIs aren't super yet.
They are a good start tho.
LetaBot is very good. Not a lot of people know them, well... i least i didnt know they exist! A good starting point to people afraid to play 1v1 on iccup
If you train only with BWAPI bots, it can at least take you from complete beginner to a level where you can compete with D rank players. It might depend on your race though, since there are only a handful of good bots.
As someone who never played a real RTS and just finished the campaign, it took me more than a hundred games to get used to the UI, hotkeys, macro, build orders, scouting and matchup knowledge.. Playing these bots is a really fun way to learn all that. The fact that you can choose which race and BO to play against, and even choose a slower speed setting if you want, makes the whole learning process much more productive.
Older players take all this stuff for granted. I would have been so embarassed if I had to play those older players while trying to get good. At some point you will have no idea what you're supposed to do, and because you can only play on fastest, you will be overwhelmed to see your minerals pile up to 3000 in seconds or see all your units die while you try to plan your next move. That doesn't sound like fun to me.. No wonder so many new players are quitting. Luckily we have BWAPI =D
Wow this is awesome and surprisingly easy to setup, maybe post this on starcraft/reddit? Just lost vs the zerg ai :p that lurker burrow micro haha. I tried to setup the ai 3-4 years ago but it didnt work. Thank you for posting this. A great tool to improve and resemble a human player.
Is the ai reacting to my build, how does it work? Is it possible to see a Spire build t v z?
Edit: ahhhh this Killerbot help so strong ... loving it
No suprise for me, i played a couple of bot's already and Letabot is the strongest i've seen so far. It can still be beaten relativly easy if you know what it's doing though for a C- player.
On August 21 2016 12:51 snowfruit wrote: If you train only with BWAPI bots, it can at least take you from complete beginner to a level where you can compete with D rank players. It might depend on your race though, since there are only a handful of good bots.
As someone who never played a real RTS and just finished the campaign, it took me more than a hundred games to get used to the UI, hotkeys, macro, build orders, scouting and matchup knowledge.. Playing these bots is a really fun way to learn all that. The fact that you can choose which race and BO to play against, and even choose a slower speed setting if you want, makes the whole learning process much more productive.
Older players take all this stuff for granted. I would have been so embarassed if I had to play those older players while trying to get good. At some point you will have no idea what you're supposed to do, and because you can only play on fastest, you will be overwhelmed to see your minerals pile up to 3000 in seconds or see all your units die while you try to plan your next move. That doesn't sound like fun to me.. No wonder so many new players are quitting. Luckily we have BWAPI =D
Yes, its a very good practice to play against this AIs, im sure a lot of D/C will lost at least one game
There is nothing to be ashame of losing to older guys tho.
I rembember the quote of Michael Jordan: " I missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed.
That advice is for life in general, failure is part of life. Good luck.
On August 21 2016 16:30 ionONE wrote: Wow this is awesome and surprisingly easy to setup, maybe post this on starcraft/reddit? Just lost vs the zerg ai :p that lurker burrow micro haha. I tried to setup the ai 3-4 years ago but it didnt work. Thank you for posting this. A great tool to improve and resemble a human player.
Is the ai reacting to my build, how does it work? Is it possible to see a Spire build t v z?
Edit: ahhhh this Killerbot help so strong ... loving it
Im not very familiar with reddit, maybe you can help.
Lol, that Zerg ai has very good micro. I dont know exactly how they build it, but there is a tutorial on how to build one. Most AI stuck at late game...
I think the AI chooses the build at start, im not sure 100%
On August 21 2016 16:48 Cele wrote: LetaBot SSCAI 2015 Final+ 90% Winrate
No suprise for me, i played a couple of bot's already and Letabot is the strongest i've seen so far. It can still be beaten relativly easy if you know what it's doing though for a C- player.
Agreed. But i found that most of them can easily be defeaten by an early push (im T). Bunkers and tanks outside the natural expansion, but if you go for a fast expansion, that will be very fun.
On August 21 2016 17:03 tumejoramigo wrote: There is nothing to be ashame of losing to older guys tho.
I rembember the quote of Michael Jordan: " I missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed.
That advice is for life in general, failure is part of life. Good luck.
Oh I agree. You learn something new from every loss, and you've gotta enjoy that. But I'm weird when it comes to online play. Others might not get embarassed like me, but they too will feel frustrated when they get stomped. I just don't think iccup is the best place to learn if you're new. Hopefully this will be less of an issue on ShieldBattery, as there will be plenty of noobs.
On August 21 2016 16:30 ionONE wrote: Is the ai reacting to my build, how does it work? Is it possible to see a Spire build t v z?
At least against Protoss, Killerbot (Marian Devecka) will make some Mutalisks if your corsairs are late or you skip them entirely. Also, it's possible to force more zerglings instead of drones with a 1base opening. So it does adapt, but not enough against an early rush. I don't think it will make mutalisks in tvz against a bio opening. Although to be honest, I find it almost impossible to hold off lurkers without tanks..
In general, I think most bots don't adapt at all in terms of build orders. Some of them do, like ICEbot. But they have very poor judgement as you might imagine.
On August 22 2016 01:38 FourTwentynator wrote: i can't get a protoss bot to work, im getting an error that im missing a .dll =/
There is a lot of protoss bots, try to ask on facebookgroup for support. If you are getting that error maybe the PATH to dll file is wrong, also you must use both DLLs files: binary and bwapi.dll
Oh I agree. You learn something new from every loss, and you've gotta enjoy that. But I'm weird when it comes to online play. Others might not get embarassed like me, but they too will feel frustrated when they get stomped. I just don't think iccup is the best place to learn if you're new. Hopefully this will be less of an issue on ShieldBattery, as there will be plenty of noobs.
Yes is true, iccup is full of old players that fake noob acounts
Arg. Followed all of the steps closely, but I can't seem to open a second instance of broodwar using ChaosLauncher. It either points me to the instance of starcraft already running, or simply crashes. Is there something obvious I'm doing wrong?
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