"I have been performing poorly in PvT recently"

I'm guessing that this is during practice matches? Other than that, I can't really think of any other explaination.

I'm a little disappointed that Stork won (I kinda want Bisu to win ^^; ), but it's not the worst thing in the world if stork wins the series, I just hope that he can ride this momentum to the finals and win. =P

TheDefiler_Saves

Norway97 Posts

January 07 2011 01:40 GMT

#62

Thank you very much for translating these interviews!

Go Jaedong!

ArvickHero

10387 Posts

January 07 2011 04:47 GMT

#63

Stork actually counted the mineral patches in Bisu's expo during the game? Holy shit..

Hittegods

Stockholm4642 Posts

January 07 2011 05:55 GMT

#64

On January 07 2011 13:47 ArvickHero wrote:
Stork actually counted the mineral patches in Bisu's expo during the game? Holy shit..

It's actually very common (to my understanding) to click the patches to back trace their expansion timing. I.e. seeing how much they've mined will tell you approximately their expo has been up. Especially in a mirror-mu it would be easy to compare with your own.

Renkaoru

390 Posts

January 07 2011 06:15 GMT

#65

On January 07 2011 13:47 ArvickHero wrote:
Stork actually counted the mineral patches in Bisu's expo during the game? Holy shit..

I find this gosu as shit. It's the first time I heard this done and to think he was able to do it in a live high-pressure game..

Who needs APM when you have the brains of Stork?

rotinegg

United States1719 Posts

January 07 2011 06:48 GMT

#66

Hittegods is right, its a common technique in bw. You can sometimes see observers clicking on patches of mineral to highlight the differences in expo timings, or the commentators saying "he probably sees that his opponents expo has been up for a while after clicking on the mineral patches..."

Renkaoru

390 Posts

January 07 2011 08:30 GMT

#67

Forgive my ignorance then.

IntoTheEmo

Singapore1170 Posts

January 07 2011 08:44 GMT

#68

Ever the hard worker Jaedong, but I'm gonna have to agree with Milkis in the OSL post, he's taking wayyyyy too many weird risks and they usually don't pay off, I was literally screaming on Vent "OMG Jaedong's gonna lose" after all his attacking drones died.

Luckily he was able to find an opening ><. It's a shame though, I kind of like Midas too, he's kind of cute.

Thanks for translation as always

dukethegold

Canada5645 Posts

January 07 2011 09:02 GMT

#69

I find it funny that Jaedong is apologizing for cheesing and producing a bad game when that was one of the most epic games I ever watched.

On the other hand, I scream "FUUUUU" and shut down the stream whenever I see workers pulled in a GSL game

Licmyobelisk

Philippines3682 Posts

January 07 2011 09:25 GMT

#70

On January 07 2011 18:02 dukethegold wrote:
I find it funny that Jaedong is apologizing for cheesing and producing a bad game when that was one of the most epic games I ever watched.

On the other hand, I scream "FUUUUU" and shut down the stream whenever I see workers pulled in a GSL game

hahaha so true! Man, I've never heard of the counting the minerals of your opponent strategy.. man I'm such a noob!

STORK HWAITING!

lastreason

Romania250 Posts

January 07 2011 10:24 GMT

#71

gogo stork ,thx for translating

Caos2

United States1728 Posts

January 07 2011 11:39 GMT

#72

Jaedong's match was impressive, thanks for the translations!

Dfgj

Singapore5922 Posts

January 07 2011 11:55 GMT

#73

On January 07 2011 15:15 Renkaoru wrote:

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I find this gosu as shit. It's the first time I heard this done and to think he was able to do it in a live high-pressure game..

Who needs APM when you have the brains of Stork?

It's been brought up by other progamers at times, I remember FBH saying something about it as well, as a common way to check how long an expo has been up.

lastmotion

368 Posts

January 07 2011 12:00 GMT

#74

stork said that he compared mineral patches of natural expo to see who had econ advantage...do a lot of top players do this? this is so pro, for real lol

Piste

6183 Posts

January 07 2011 21:26 GMT

#75

On January 07 2011 07:44 SubtleArt wrote:

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Jaedong won the nate MSL

you're right. sorry, my mistake :D I feel stupid now.

GG_NO_RE

Japan238 Posts

January 08 2011 04:08 GMT

#76

the JD game was so fuckin awesome. i really love him for doing this.. and it was tense

hydra absolutely steamrolled classic too. he's becoming one of my favorite players, and has a respectable lineage in the entus zergs as well

action disappointed me with his muta micro in his game... not really that impressed

and it really takes me aback to think that progamers could notice little things like the amount of minerals in a patch, like stork did, and infer that they have an advantage. really awesome stuff. i thought it was great that bisu went for shuttle speed (something so rarely seen in pvp) and i was going crazy with the number of probe kills.. but he just kinda fell apart. stork expertly predicted he would sneak a dt in later to even things up (SO bisu)

Deleted User 37864

780 Posts

January 08 2011 04:27 GMT

#77

Yeah.. a lot of people count minerals to check how long the expansion has been up.
Even I do this.. lol.

There is this little trick that zerg players sometimes do. I remember a pro doing it I think.. was it July?
That zerg moved his first overlord to scout for the opponent and STOPPED right at the minerals. So he never saw probes at all, but clicked on the mineral to see that it has been mined.
That way, he knew there was a base and the Protoss never saw the overlord.

baubo

China3370 Posts

January 08 2011 15:25 GMT

#78

On the whole mineral patch thing. I think it says a lot about the style of players regardless of whether they all do it. Bisu had the same scouting info as Stork. He saw that Stork was ahead even after the 12 probe kills. Yet he still for some inexplicable reason to pressure knowing that Stork likely has a similar if not bigger sized army, with better economy to back it up.

You have to make the right decision with your scouting. Stork made the correct decision. Bisu did not. First engagement at bottom right where Stork cleaned up Bisu's army was basically game.