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dmetheny
Profile Joined July 2008
United States146 Posts
October 28 2009 02:36 GMT
#41
*Bisu places hist first pylon*
BISU BUILD 2.0!!!
Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
October 28 2009 02:39 GMT
#42
I read the translation was wrong. My bad. And yes, it might be true, just because it was from Bisu, I may have found this more arrogant than it was. Its like when George W. Bush says something, people just make fun of it, just because it came from him.

And @FallingTearDrops: my bad, I read the translation was wrong. relax. And for the record, every player has anti-fans. even BoxeR for triple bunker-rushing YellOw. Even for Reach, and I just said I lost respect at this point. Did I say anything about him beating sAviOr?
Are you truly so blinded by your vaunted religion, that you can't see the fall ahead of you? - Zeratul III AKA WikidSik ingame (anygame)
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
October 28 2009 02:59 GMT
#43
On October 28 2009 11:27 FallingTeardrops wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 11:09 Sharp-eYe wrote:
I have honestly lost a lot of respect for Bisu at this point. Arrogant comment after arrogant comment... its just mind blowing. I do not see how he is a hero for Protoss anymore. Nal_rA, Reach and Kingdom were not arrogant, and Stork gives honest,personal interviews without being arrogant. Fine, maybe one map is EXTREMELY imbalanced, and thats what you think, fine, but to evem think zerg players are cheating is unnacceptable, in my opinion. Same goes for the people that seriously think "Protoss 1a2a3a" and "Terran FE > 3/3 tanks."

However, I have gained lots of respect for Hyuk. Go Hyuk!


Stfu, when you can win 3-0 versus one of the best ZvPers of all time, you can start talking smack to the Revolutionist.

Until then, you're just another person posting on a forum.


*THE* best ZvPer of all time at his height. Highest ever ZvP ELO but quite a margin, 88% ZvP win record in the 12 months before Bisu took him down, having not lost a single bo3 or bo5 vs Protoss since August of 2004 (and he faced Bisu in March of 2007). In fact he had only lost two bo3's in his career at that point (to Pusan 1-2 in 2004 and to Giyom 1-2 in 2003) and had not ever lost a bo5. Scary.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
October 28 2009 03:21 GMT
#44
On October 28 2009 11:59 Mortality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 11:27 FallingTeardrops wrote:
On October 28 2009 11:09 Sharp-eYe wrote:
I have honestly lost a lot of respect for Bisu at this point. Arrogant comment after arrogant comment... its just mind blowing. I do not see how he is a hero for Protoss anymore. Nal_rA, Reach and Kingdom were not arrogant, and Stork gives honest,personal interviews without being arrogant. Fine, maybe one map is EXTREMELY imbalanced, and thats what you think, fine, but to evem think zerg players are cheating is unnacceptable, in my opinion. Same goes for the people that seriously think "Protoss 1a2a3a" and "Terran FE > 3/3 tanks."

However, I have gained lots of respect for Hyuk. Go Hyuk!


Stfu, when you can win 3-0 versus one of the best ZvPers of all time, you can start talking smack to the Revolutionist.

Until then, you're just another person posting on a forum.


*THE* best ZvPer of all time at his height. Highest ever ZvP ELO but quite a margin, 88% ZvP win record in the 12 months before Bisu took him down, having not lost a single bo3 or bo5 vs Protoss since August of 2004 (and he faced Bisu in March of 2007). In fact he had only lost two bo3's in his career at that point (to Pusan 1-2 in 2004 and to Giyom 1-2 in 2003) and had not ever lost a bo5. Scary.


Bisu is also the only Protoss to defeat a Zerg in an MSL or OSL final.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 28 2009 03:31 GMT
#45
On October 28 2009 12:21 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 11:59 Mortality wrote:
On October 28 2009 11:27 FallingTeardrops wrote:
On October 28 2009 11:09 Sharp-eYe wrote:
I have honestly lost a lot of respect for Bisu at this point. Arrogant comment after arrogant comment... its just mind blowing. I do not see how he is a hero for Protoss anymore. Nal_rA, Reach and Kingdom were not arrogant, and Stork gives honest,personal interviews without being arrogant. Fine, maybe one map is EXTREMELY imbalanced, and thats what you think, fine, but to evem think zerg players are cheating is unnacceptable, in my opinion. Same goes for the people that seriously think "Protoss 1a2a3a" and "Terran FE > 3/3 tanks."

However, I have gained lots of respect for Hyuk. Go Hyuk!


Stfu, when you can win 3-0 versus one of the best ZvPers of all time, you can start talking smack to the Revolutionist.

Until then, you're just another person posting on a forum.


*THE* best ZvPer of all time at his height. Highest ever ZvP ELO but quite a margin, 88% ZvP win record in the 12 months before Bisu took him down, having not lost a single bo3 or bo5 vs Protoss since August of 2004 (and he faced Bisu in March of 2007). In fact he had only lost two bo3's in his career at that point (to Pusan 1-2 in 2004 and to Giyom 1-2 in 2003) and had not ever lost a bo5. Scary.


Bisu is also the only Protoss to defeat a Zerg in an MSL or OSL final.


where did you get that stat?
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
October 28 2009 03:33 GMT
#46
On October 28 2009 12:21 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 11:59 Mortality wrote:
On October 28 2009 11:27 FallingTeardrops wrote:
On October 28 2009 11:09 Sharp-eYe wrote:
I have honestly lost a lot of respect for Bisu at this point. Arrogant comment after arrogant comment... its just mind blowing. I do not see how he is a hero for Protoss anymore. Nal_rA, Reach and Kingdom were not arrogant, and Stork gives honest,personal interviews without being arrogant. Fine, maybe one map is EXTREMELY imbalanced, and thats what you think, fine, but to evem think zerg players are cheating is unnacceptable, in my opinion. Same goes for the people that seriously think "Protoss 1a2a3a" and "Terran FE > 3/3 tanks."

However, I have gained lots of respect for Hyuk. Go Hyuk!


Stfu, when you can win 3-0 versus one of the best ZvPers of all time, you can start talking smack to the Revolutionist.

Until then, you're just another person posting on a forum.


*THE* best ZvPer of all time at his height. Highest ever ZvP ELO but quite a margin, 88% ZvP win record in the 12 months before Bisu took him down, having not lost a single bo3 or bo5 vs Protoss since August of 2004 (and he faced Bisu in March of 2007). In fact he had only lost two bo3's in his career at that point (to Pusan 1-2 in 2004 and to Giyom 1-2 in 2003) and had not ever lost a bo5. Scary.


Bisu is also the only Protoss to defeat a Zerg in an MSL or OSL final.


FALSE. Giyom defeated H.O.T-Forever, one of the best ZvPers ever, in the 2000 Hanaro Tongshin OSL.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 28 2009 03:34 GMT
#47
garimto also beat skelton
abakben
Profile Joined April 2007
United States308 Posts
October 28 2009 03:35 GMT
#48
Bisu is also the only Protoss to defeat a Zerg in an MSL final.
Three big B's (BEST-BISU-BOXER) fighting for SKT1. All we need is a good zerg to dominate the Proleague:)
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
October 28 2009 03:39 GMT
#49
lol bisu hate

mad props to him for being honest and actually saying interesting things in interviews
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
October 28 2009 03:39 GMT
#50
On October 28 2009 12:35 abakben wrote:
Bisu is also the only Protoss to defeat a Zerg in an MSL final.


Relevance? Winning a PvZ final in OSL is no easier than winning a PvZ final in MSL.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
abakben
Profile Joined April 2007
United States308 Posts
October 28 2009 03:43 GMT
#51
On October 28 2009 12:39 Mortality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 12:35 abakben wrote:
Bisu is also the only Protoss to defeat a Zerg in an MSL final.


Relevance? Winning a PvZ final in OSL is no easier than winning a PvZ final in MSL.

What is your problem? I just corrected the above statement. Also winning a PvZ final against the one of the greatest ZvP er (savior was on top of his game at that time} is definitely more difficult.
Three big B's (BEST-BISU-BOXER) fighting for SKT1. All we need is a good zerg to dominate the Proleague:)
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-28 03:50:50
October 28 2009 03:45 GMT
#52
On October 28 2009 10:19 gnr9292 wrote:
wrong translation bisu didn't say zerg is the easiest race to play he said
그래도 개인적으로는 세 종족 중에 가장 할 만한 것이 저그전이다.
he said "personally I think zerg is the easiest race to play against"

kind of odd since he lost to shine recently but is still doing good against toss and terran


O shit thanks dude. I'm kinda sick right now and I had no sleep last night so my condition isn't exactly perfect. I thought he said 저그이다 instead of 저그전이다 -_- Thanks for the correction.
Sullifam
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
October 28 2009 03:49 GMT
#53
On October 28 2009 12:43 abakben wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 12:39 Mortality wrote:
On October 28 2009 12:35 abakben wrote:
Bisu is also the only Protoss to defeat a Zerg in an MSL final.


Relevance? Winning a PvZ final in OSL is no easier than winning a PvZ final in MSL.

What is your problem? I just corrected the above statement. Also winning a PvZ final against the one of the greatest ZvP er (savior was on top of his game at that time} is definitely more difficult.

and for those who say that Savior was on the decline, Savior went on a monstrous ZvP rampage up until facing Bisu again in EVER 07 (which he very nearly won), where he hit a new ZvP ELO peak and dropped only 3 games in that time span
Writerptrk
blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
October 28 2009 04:00 GMT
#54
How about:

In the 9 most developed, stable, and balanced years of professional StarCraft, Bisu is the only player to have won a MSL/OSL PvZ finals out of 8 PvZ finals that took place during these 9 years.
| MLIA | the weather sucks dick here
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-28 04:05:58
October 28 2009 04:04 GMT
#55
OK, I hate it when angry fans say "don't diss a player unless you can beat them" or "he can still own you so stfu." as an argument. We as fans have the right to criticize or critique and compare the players since we constantly spend so much time following them. It's hard to explain but it's like defending vista by telling everyone who hates it, "can u make a better OS? So stfu" Or defending Obama or Bush against critics by saying "Can you be a better president?" Okay maybe not Bush.

This same principle applies to all sports. Just because we aren't as good as them does not mean we lack the capability to compare their skills with their competition. Do you think the coaches of teams are better than the players? Of course not, then why can they decide who sucks and gets cut or who does not play?

Edit: A bit off topic but some ppl were arguing like that a few posts up.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
October 28 2009 04:05 GMT
#56
On October 28 2009 12:43 abakben wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 12:39 Mortality wrote:
On October 28 2009 12:35 abakben wrote:
Bisu is also the only Protoss to defeat a Zerg in an MSL final.


Relevance? Winning a PvZ final in OSL is no easier than winning a PvZ final in MSL.

What is your problem? I just corrected the above statement. Also winning a PvZ final against the one of the greatest ZvP er (savior was on top of his game at that time} is definitely more difficult.


If you were just amending his statement, then did you need to write it in bold face like this?

And I've already mentioned the significance of winning over Savior (the BEST ZvPer ever). But don't think that gives him creedance over Giyom or Garimto.

Garimto used to win more than 60% vs Zerg in a time when there was no Proleague, only individual league, and he was constantly being pitted against the very best of his day in 16 man tournament after 16 man tournament.

Giyom beat one of the best ZvPers of all time in his OSL win (H.O.T-Forever) and then best another one of the best ZvPers of all time ([B&G]TheBoy) in his OGN King of Kings win. And if that isn't enough for you, he had already beaten beaten TheBoy before.

Giyom might well be the greatest Protoss player EVER. In a 6 month period he won 75000 dollars in prize money from Starcraft. Sadly, professional gaming had not organized back then and many of his major wins are not in TLPD.



When it comes to the greatest names in Protoss, Giyom and Garimto are right up there next to Bisu and Ra. Don't doubt that for a second.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
October 28 2009 04:18 GMT
#57
Awesome, thanks a lot for this!
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
bluegoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States141 Posts
October 28 2009 08:30 GMT
#58
"When it comes to the greatest names in Protoss, Giyom and Garimto are right up there next to Bisu and Ra. Don't doubt that for a second."

no one said this wasnt true.


also bisu fighting. arrogance is the way to go.
war3 player learning sc
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
October 28 2009 08:57 GMT
#59
since im here.. i cannot leave the thread without saying... bisu bisu bisu whatever bisu...

carry on guys!
bisu fanboy
ProbeSaturation
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada292 Posts
October 28 2009 09:17 GMT
#60
Bisu gives the best interviews.
I can't wait to read his interview for his match against CJ.
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