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natturner
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
342 Posts
August 18 2009 01:52 GMT
#61
how does yarnc have a map advantage, it's a mirror match, no one has an advantage. unless ur Zero playing on Holy World, the neutral command center gives him special powers.
This nigga done stole my bike.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
August 18 2009 01:55 GMT
#62
On August 18 2009 08:14 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 05:56 Oxygen wrote:
On August 18 2009 05:29 imperator-xy wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:58 Warrior Madness wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
If anyone is going to win the platinum mouse it will be Jaedong.

I could see NaDa winning ONE more OSL, but not two.


If anyone can win the diamond mouse it would be Jaedong . I'm trying to not get ahead of myself here but a well rested, hungry,JD (Who's only in one league) is his best matchup away from the golden mouse. And it doesn't look like JD is gonna slow down any time soon.

a well rested JD is a JD on the same skill level as the other zergs... his advantage is his unhumanly practise and the maps.
after this zerg age there will be much less zergs in the starleague's last rounds and maybe JD will be eliminated in round of 16 like Bisu or other good players were this time.

i dont think anyone will ever get platinum mouse or even diamond mouse. at first JD has to win his golden mouse, and if he looses who knows when he will reach the finals again...


... I don't usually jump to defend players' skills, since the debate often ends in stupidity, but I think it's terribly base to say that Jaedong is on the same skill level as other zergs ... no one is currently on par with Jaedong. Certainly, he may blow out after this OSL and achieve nothing at all, but at this moment Jaedong is godlike (67% winrate, as opposed to Effort with 63% and Calm with 56%).


He didn't really say that. He was merely pointing out that "well rested" doesn't really coincide with what Jaedong does. Jaedong practices at intense amounts, much more than others. That's why he IS above everyone else. If he doesn't practice and just rests, then he'll fall back on par with many other zergs. Maybe an overstatement, but he wasn't saying what you are saying.

So you're saying if JD doesn't practice but other zergs do, he'll be at their level?
Jaedong
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
August 18 2009 01:56 GMT
#63
On August 18 2009 00:14 jodogohoo wrote:
if jaedong loses to yarnc, fucking everyone loses.
1. zvz final
2. jaedong LOSES
3. JAEDONG LOSES GOLDEN MOUSE
3. osl CURSE ISN'T BROKEN
4. ect..

i win!!!!!
TheTeamLiquidTiger
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
August 18 2009 01:57 GMT
#64
lolz, Yarnc better lose or this will be indeed the 2nd time in history
when a golden mouse wasn't awarded to the person it was intended for
SlayerS_BoxeR FTW ///// Long live the Emperor
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
August 18 2009 01:58 GMT
#65
On August 18 2009 10:57 TheTeamLiquidTiger wrote:
lolz, Yarnc better lose or this will be indeed the 2nd time in history
when a golden mouse wasn't awarded to the person it was intended for

More like 5th. >.>
Jaedong
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-18 02:10:22
August 18 2009 02:10 GMT
#66
On August 18 2009 10:58 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 10:57 TheTeamLiquidTiger wrote:
lolz, Yarnc better lose or this will be indeed the 2nd time in history
when a golden mouse wasn't awarded to the person it was intended for

More like 5th. >.>

??
there haven't even been five golden mouses
Liquid | SKT
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
August 18 2009 02:13 GMT
#67
No wonder July looked so worried about dropping his at EVER finals.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
August 18 2009 02:36 GMT
#68
On August 18 2009 11:10 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 10:58 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On August 18 2009 10:57 TheTeamLiquidTiger wrote:
lolz, Yarnc better lose or this will be indeed the 2nd time in history
when a golden mouse wasn't awarded to the person it was intended for

More like 5th. >.>

??
there haven't even been five golden mouses

BoxeR got 3 silvers in OSLs after he won his first two. So each of those losses, he got to see the Golden Mouse through his booth that would never get into his hands.
Writer
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-18 02:40:39
August 18 2009 02:39 GMT
#69
On August 18 2009 11:10 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 10:58 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On August 18 2009 10:57 TheTeamLiquidTiger wrote:
lolz, Yarnc better lose or this will be indeed the 2nd time in history
when a golden mouse wasn't awarded to the person it was intended for

More like 5th. >.>

??
there haven't even been five golden mouses


I think he's referring to like the four times Boxer got second place after his back to back OSL runs (Garimto, Reach, Oov, Anytime). Poor Boxer shoulda had that damn mouse so many times. =(

Edit for beaten, but I got the number of silvers right.
Remember Violet.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
August 18 2009 03:08 GMT
#70
I dont think they were offering the Golden Mouse until Boxer faced off with Reach
Writerptrk
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
August 18 2009 03:10 GMT
#71
On August 18 2009 03:50 iSiN wrote:
Show nested quote +
10 OSL titles, golden mouse, keyboard, mousepad, headphones, and any other accessory they use and the rights to Tossgirl.

this will suffice.
maybe call it the pink USB Port?

Fixed.
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
August 18 2009 03:15 GMT
#72
On August 18 2009 10:52 natturner wrote:
how does yarnc have a map advantage, it's a mirror match, no one has an advantage. unless ur Zero playing on Holy World, the neutral command center gives him special powers.


Well, when you go to the OSL finals thread and look at the map stats, Yarnc stats are slightly better, thus why I said he had a small advantage.
♣ Jaedong. Stork. Bisu. Calm. NaDa. SC2: Sen, MKP, DRG, MMA, Grubby, NonY, Ret, Jinro, TLO, Sheth, HayprO, Zenio,Taeja,Snute, Sea, Rain, MC,Squirtle,Stephano,Parting ,Life, and HEROOOOO <3
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
August 18 2009 03:21 GMT
#73
that golden mouse should be boxer's. jaedong can be next.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
August 18 2009 03:38 GMT
#74
On August 18 2009 05:15 BanZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 04:55 Railz wrote:
Blah, imagine Boxer, he sat through every final seeing the Golden mouse through his booth =/

Wow, I did not even think about that T______T

Nah, unless I'm terribly mistaken, the idea of the golden mouse was only created before Boxer's last OSL final which was against Anytime (OSL So1). It didn't exist when he faced Garimto, Reach and Iloveoov.
BoxerForever.com - the one and only international Boxer fansite since 2006 :)
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
August 18 2009 04:15 GMT
#75
What a morale blow to Yarnc. LOL
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
August 18 2009 05:28 GMT
#76
On August 18 2009 02:20 Aesop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 02:02 Carnac wrote:
On August 17 2009 23:26 Oxygen wrote:
According to Liquipedia, the mouse should be valued around $8000, so Jaedong is getting cheated.

Hmmm.
That liquipedia article is probably based on this thread.

The original link to the Fighterforum source article in that thread isn't working, because FiFo was taken over by afreeca. The old articles do still exist, but they are a little annoying to find, since the news ids of the old FiFo articles changed when they were incorporated into the afreeca database. Took me a bit too find it, but here is the original source article for the 1st golden mouse anyway.

The article says the golden mouse is worth 8 million won, which was around 7670 USD on November 4th 2005 (source: IMF chart with conversion rates for November 2005), with today's conversion rate it would be around 6535 USD. So the op of the November 2005 TL thread about the golden mouse was a little generous with the 8000 USD figure and and well yeah, the conversion rate changed like I said.

Not sure why fomos says the mouse is worth 7million won now, when it was 8million in November 2005. Can't be bothered to check for differences in the prices for gold in November 2005 and August 2009 though.

Awesome research . The op merely stated that the gold alone is worth 7 Million Won, I suppose the manufacturing and other materials might have their price too, possibly the missing Million.


from http://gold.unanimocracy.com/2005/11/
Gold closed today on the NY gold market at US$499.90, but after hours open market pricing is fluctuating between US$499 and US$501.

on aug 17, from http://goldprice.org/silver-and-gold-prices/2009_08_01_archive.html

Gold Price Close Today : 934.30

So it would look like, if anything, the price of gold has gone way way up.

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imperator-xy
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Germany1366 Posts
August 18 2009 11:29 GMT
#77
On August 18 2009 10:55 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2009 08:14 FabledIntegral wrote:
On August 18 2009 05:56 Oxygen wrote:
On August 18 2009 05:29 imperator-xy wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:58 Warrior Madness wrote:
On August 18 2009 04:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
If anyone is going to win the platinum mouse it will be Jaedong.

I could see NaDa winning ONE more OSL, but not two.


If anyone can win the diamond mouse it would be Jaedong . I'm trying to not get ahead of myself here but a well rested, hungry,JD (Who's only in one league) is his best matchup away from the golden mouse. And it doesn't look like JD is gonna slow down any time soon.

a well rested JD is a JD on the same skill level as the other zergs... his advantage is his unhumanly practise and the maps.
after this zerg age there will be much less zergs in the starleague's last rounds and maybe JD will be eliminated in round of 16 like Bisu or other good players were this time.

i dont think anyone will ever get platinum mouse or even diamond mouse. at first JD has to win his golden mouse, and if he looses who knows when he will reach the finals again...


... I don't usually jump to defend players' skills, since the debate often ends in stupidity, but I think it's terribly base to say that Jaedong is on the same skill level as other zergs ... no one is currently on par with Jaedong. Certainly, he may blow out after this OSL and achieve nothing at all, but at this moment Jaedong is godlike (67% winrate, as opposed to Effort with 63% and Calm with 56%).


He didn't really say that. He was merely pointing out that "well rested" doesn't really coincide with what Jaedong does. Jaedong practices at intense amounts, much more than others. That's why he IS above everyone else. If he doesn't practice and just rests, then he'll fall back on par with many other zergs. Maybe an overstatement, but he wasn't saying what you are saying.

So you're saying if JD doesn't practice but other zergs do, he'll be at their level?

this is how every competitive "sport" is working
eNoq
Profile Joined June 2009
Netherlands502 Posts
August 18 2009 12:21 GMT
#78
I don't see yarnc winning JD when JD is fully prepared with enough sleep.
Proburu
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
August 18 2009 12:22 GMT
#79
On August 18 2009 21:21 eNoq wrote:
I don't see yarnc winning JD when JD is fully prepared with enough sleep.

When JD prepares, he doesn't sleep (enough). That's his problem.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9016 Posts
August 18 2009 12:37 GMT
#80
No one will win the Platinum mouse, obviously.
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