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kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-01 12:54:19
December 01 2009 12:47 GMT
#1
The Art of Cheese ... JUST KIDDING

Check out my previous 2 blogs about my journey to C! Part 1 and Part 2.

Okay, so 2 nights ago I played from midnight to 3:00 AM and holy crap I was on a shit streak ... with only 2 wins (1 of which was a decent macro game, and the other which was a 2 Gate cheese against a Zerg) and 13 losses, I was so frustrated I just stopped playing.

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After getting my head cooled down, I decided to go do some iCCup related stuff, but not playing games. I went to become an ADMIN! I joined the iCCup Ladder Admins and currently I'm just a Trial Admin, but I'll try to solve all the TSL Manual Reports and Complaints I can to help everyone in the TSL out!

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The next day I bounced back after watching some Proleague, eating some Jam-pong (짬뽕), and going on a very nice 12 win 1 loss hot streak. Man did I feel good, and I was soooo close to C but I ran into some problems and dropped again down to the 3500 mark.

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After a few more games I finally reached C and the last 3 games that brought me up to C was a Cannon Rush against a Terran, another Cannon Rush against a Protoss, and then a final game where I went 2 Gate Tech against a fellow Protoss player. Who knew that Cannon Rushes worked on everyone!

+ Show Spoiler [Cannon Rush Against Terran] +
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Here we go!

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There's the Forge ...

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Cannon numero ONE!

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Cannon numero TWO!

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I'm surprised he said gg ... :D

+ Show Spoiler [Cannon Rush Against Protoss] +
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Terran ... Protoss ... they're all the same.

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Hopefully he doesn't come up here.

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Camon Cannon go down faster ...

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DUAL CANNONS!.

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Zealots + Cannons >> Dragoons.

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Wonder when he's going to leave ...

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He must be angry ...



Friendlies ...

What a random coincidence eh? I ran into a bunch of my friends over iCCup when they randomly joined my C-/C games.

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Oh former university friend and fellow TL'er, how do you do! You still kick my ass in SC after 2 years.

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Wasssup! It's been a while since we played but it was fun and just like 6 months ago, I still get owned by you ... I will get my revenge in the next Calgary LAN!.

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Chill, Chill, Chill, oh how much I wanted to cheese you ... unfortunately I wanted to take a clean shot at getting a clean win and of course I got stomped, GG Chill!



Match Ups ...

      Protoss vs Zerg (15 wins - 15 losses - 50%)

I'm getting better at this match up I guess. A couple of days ago, because too many people used the FE build I would always go 1 Gate Tech, but now I've gone back to the FE build. Now, branching off from the FE build I would go either DT + Corsair or Reaver + Corsair. I'm loving the Reaver + Corsair build, but it takes a ton of control and its do or die because I tend to lose my Shuttle every now and then. All in all, I'm getting better at this build but it's still hard with all the Zergs going 3 Hatch Muta into 5 Hatch Hydra.

      Protoss vs Terran (23 wins - 20 losses - 53.5%)

Neo Medusa!!! Last week I would always play either Python or Destination. PvT was always somewhat hard for me on these maps but now a nice map where I can take a clear advantage early on in the game. 10/15 Gate! I'm loving this build on the map and it's done me wonders but I still screw up while micro'ing my Dragoons, so I'll have to work on that. PvT is improving, and it's still my second best match up.

      Protoss vs Protoss (27 wins - 24 losses - 52.9%)

As usual, my best match up out of the three. Protoss versus Protoss. Again, Neo Medusa helps me out this week. PvP on this map is just straight 2 Gate and Manner the crap out of the other opponent. Technically, this is considered cheese, but once I hit 7 Zealots I tech up so that I won't be behind (plus my PvP 2 Gate'ing is getting ridiculously strong hehehe).



Analysis ...

If someone could help me analyze a few replays as to why I lost it would be awesome too. Need all the help I can get to improve my game. ^^

      PvP - None
      PvT - None
      PvZ - None

NOTE: I'll add some once I get to school. Gotta watch the replays first and then upload the ones I don't understand.



Random Images from Games

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Manner Nexus! ... 75Dtits says "ok" and leaves lol

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Final Manner Pylon catches 5 Probes! I'm on my Admin account hehehe.



Conclusion ...

As I conclude this blog I am ranked 309th in the TSL Ladder Standings with 69 wins and 60 losses. Now it's that time again for me to try for the next rank. C+ here I come!

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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
December 01 2009 13:00 GMT
#2
I like your perseverance, just don't be afraid to lose that rank and keep going!

Nice that your win ratios in all match-ups are similar... My PvP is currently a shocking 35% lower than my other 2 match-ups. Although I have to play more to know if it really is that much worse...
No I'm never serious.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 01 2009 13:05 GMT
#3
Damn congrats... just don't lose it now!
hefty
Profile Joined January 2005
Denmark555 Posts
December 01 2009 13:14 GMT
#4
Don't worry about it.. Worry about getting better. And yeah, strange how your win ratios are so similar in all MUs.

Nice read and fun pics. Gl on the adminship, treat the community nice, thank you!

Bearigator
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States233 Posts
December 01 2009 13:14 GMT
#5
Congratulations! I really like this blog series actually. Gives me hope ^^. Looking forward to an entry on your quest for C+.
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
December 01 2009 13:25 GMT
#6
Well let me first say congrats, it always feels good to go up a rank. Don't stop playing, don't be afraid to lose C again to get better. Lose C today, to get C+ tomorow kind of thing?

And on the downer side...
What's the point of getting C with cheese? Better to consider all wins with cheese to be losses imo. And I dunno about all those games vs D+s (and even Ds), what's the point of beating D+s? You already proved you can do that by getting C- (assuming you didn't play Ds to get C-...). And yeah you played a lot of games to get C, but didn't even go below 1:1 win:loss ratio.

I don't know if looking at your own replays can be that helpful at this level. Should be able to see a million ways you could have played better, a thousand things to focus on improving on. That doesn't help you all that much. Better imo to not worry about where you are currently and just focus on copying good replays of better gamers, and try to play by their standards instead of your own.
Maybe you can go look for C+s willing to play you, or high Cs, players looking to get those last points to rank up and don't mind playing someone a rank lower, and then look at your replays. Seeing how you failed vs a C or C- isn't that impressive, hard to learn from that since your opponent is playing very poorly too; you could easily gain bad habits and ideas about sc that way. Better to see how you fare vs much better opponents, and then see what you could've done differently. And don't cheese them! Idea is to improve yourself as a player, not to get wins.
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-01 13:31:32
December 01 2009 13:28 GMT
#7
On December 01 2009 22:25 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Maybe you can go look for C+s willing to play you, or high Cs, players looking to get those last points to rank up and don't mind playing someone a rank lower, and then look at your replays. Seeing how you failed vs a C or C- isn't that impressive, hard to learn from that since your opponent is playing very poorly too; you could easily gain bad habits and ideas about sc that way. Better to see how you fare vs much better opponents, and then see what you could've done differently.

I really like this bit from your post, which I will start doing tomorrow to hit my C+
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
SixSongs
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Poland1455 Posts
December 01 2009 13:28 GMT
#8
Congratulations.
The Prince of DroneS
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
December 01 2009 13:29 GMT
#9
Want to play a few games and/or watch a few replays now?
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
December 01 2009 13:32 GMT
#10
Its 6:30 AM my time, I'm watching Heroes and trying to fall asleep since I got school in about 5 hours lol But I'll PM you when I can and hopefully I can catch you at a good time. Thanks!
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 01 2009 13:42 GMT
#11
I don't want to be an asshole, but reaching your goal by cheesing player two ranks lower than yourself is a tad lame.

Still, congratulations on your achievement!
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-01 13:46:57
December 01 2009 13:46 GMT
#12
Double post.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
December 01 2009 13:52 GMT
#13
On December 01 2009 22:42 Holgerius wrote:
I don't want to be an asshole, but reaching your goal by cheesing player two ranks lower than yourself is a tad lame.

Still, congratulations on your achievement!

Yeah true, I get bored easily though, I let people join my game and if they're lower I cheese to end it fast, if they aren't I see how I fare against them.
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-01 14:12:12
December 01 2009 14:10 GMT
#14
On December 01 2009 22:52 kOre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2009 22:42 Holgerius wrote:
I don't want to be an asshole, but reaching your goal by cheesing player two ranks lower than yourself is a tad lame.

Still, congratulations on your achievement!

Yeah true, I get bored easily though, I let people join my game and if they're lower I cheese to end it fast, if they aren't I see how I fare against them.


I kind of agree with Holgerius. IMO you cannot claim you are C rank when you played 90% against D+/D players (why would you play vs D players). More like you are still C- and just bashed your way up to C. Not that im trying to be disrespectful, but if you wanna claim C rank, then you need to beat pure C- players to get it. Beating d/d+ to get to C is only inflating your rank to something you might not actually have achieved otherwise.

Either way, to each his own.

(I am TSL-Dracula from your list)
AwarE--
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States70 Posts
December 01 2009 14:21 GMT
#15
Haha. 4-11 fighting C-, then 10-0 vs. D/D+ :/

Grats on C I guess :D
Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
December 01 2009 14:23 GMT
#16
Congrats Sir!
"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." I run the Smix Fanclub!
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
December 01 2009 14:27 GMT
#17
Good job! Nice to see other people getting somewhere while I stay in the lower tanks.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
December 01 2009 14:27 GMT
#18
admining is boring no benefits or respect for such a tedious job

good job
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
December 01 2009 14:28 GMT
#19
convince the other admins that games where the player lost connection to the server, that it isn't impossible to award points for the match :[
@QxGDarkCell ._.
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-01 14:30:55
December 01 2009 14:29 GMT
#20
hahaha
"ok"
Nice job.

Playing at night is a lot harder because that's when all the Koreans come out. The competition is noticeably more difficult.
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