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On July 29 2009 13:56 IntoTheWow wrote:
Why would you ban Idra? I don't think anyone banned draco, or madcow, or pj or lx while they were in korea?
Ok just for arguments sake. Koreans are banned from tournaments because they are just too good, I presume? It's not about race or whatever because that would obviously not be cool.
So, if Idra gets too good while staying in Korea, should be be banned from tournaments too? Or is it about race after all? Him being a "foreigner" and "white hope".
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On July 29 2009 14:05 Artosis wrote:
btw, thx JWD for outlining this. i hope all the haters who were flaming me for calling him the foriegn bonjwa in mumbo jumbo read this. artosis always speaks the truth thx.
Well good sir Artosis, I think that "Bonjwa" is a nickname/concept that should only be used within the korean sc scene, because of the level of dominance some particular players exert over ALOT of other insanely good sc players.
With Idra, he is very good and as we all know trains with pros and lives with a pro gaming team, something that no other foreigner currently is doing. Thus he obviously gets an edge and the Bonjwa thing is more a result of the other foreigners semi-bad mechanics and what not.
Anyways, I get your point and all. I just don't think the term "Bonjwa" should be thrown around loosely.
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On July 29 2009 17:07 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2009 14:05 Artosis wrote:
btw, thx JWD for outlining this. i hope all the haters who were flaming me for calling him the foriegn bonjwa in mumbo jumbo read this. artosis always speaks the truth thx. Well good sir Artosis, I think that "Bonjwa" is a nickname/concept that should only be used within the korean sc scene, because of the level of dominance some particular players exert over ALOT of other insanely good sc players. With Idra, he is very good and as we all know trains with pros and lives with a pro gaming team, something that no other foreigner currently is doing. Thus he obviously gets an edge and the Bonjwa thing is more a result of the other foreigners semi-bad mechanics and what not. Anyways, I get your point and all. I just don't think the term "Bonjwa" should be thrown around loosely.
I think the term "Bonjwa" should go to hell and die already. Some random journalist in Korea made that word up to spice up his article. The word bonjwa is not used in modern Korean, guess the journalist just thought it sounds cool and ancient and, without much thinking, just put it in his article. Now everyone and his mother thinks he knows what bonjwa means, when even the guy who created the hype doesn't know himself. There's no definition or anything for it, it was the community that picked the word up and gave it (about a million different) meanings. Even if the community would offer a few variations of a definition and made a big poll, people will still find loopholes and call their neighbour a bonjwa, because the wording of the definition was not precise enough. In the end it's just a useless waste of time to fret over something this trivial, considering the origin of this word. People try to give arguments why their definition is right, but they have nothing to back it up except that that other guy some time ago said the same thing, so it must be true since we're already two now.
That journalist guy is sitting in his room rofling over netizens around the world writing essays about his made up word, and I just became a part of it. GG.
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Would be very sad if he wouldnt win everything after nearly 2 years practicing 14 hours every day in the best possible environment.
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In all honestly. Idra need to step up on some big tournaments for people to take him seriously.
That or produce results against the Chinese players.
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Didn't Idra lose to ret in the GOL tournament?
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Impressive.  It's funny how not too long ago I almost had to give an apologetic explanation about why I would actually support Idra and now everyone's like "hey he is too good, no wonder after prac'ing with pro's for so long ololol".
And he shouldn't be banned from any event for being too good or whatever, he worked hard for it and it is a pleasure to see him destroy people left and right. I can imagine it's hard for the people facing him, though. But still, I'd rather get the opportunity to see vods, livecasts and reps of his matches than root for someone else that I couldn't give a rat's ass about (except ret).
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idra win because he practice with cj koreans, better practice than usual whites
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United States12607 Posts
On July 29 2009 19:45 nevamind wrote:
Didn't Idra lose to ret in the GOL tournament?
Ah, I think you're right! Totally forgot about that event, I'm sorry. I will edit in results.
I can't find results for this anywhere. The GoL website says IdrA was in group stages with ret, but he didn't make it as far as the Ro4. I have no idea what happened in the Ro32->Ro8.
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we counted the first game of the esl series that i won 2-1 for the gol tournament as well, since we had to play like 3 times that week. unfortunately that was the game i lost
my asl matches were all 2-0's before pj
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Calgary26004 Posts
Can't argue with numbers like that. Wow.
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Pitcairn19291 Posts
But those are some pretty impressive stats nonetheless. While you can't win every single game you play, making sure that you win series is more important.
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