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Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
April 05 2009 20:50 GMT
#21
I felt so bad for him when he lost... Great writeup
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
April 05 2009 23:26 GMT
#22
Great writeup man.

I enjoy hearing about the different nuances of translating korean to english
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
April 06 2009 00:12 GMT
#23
The lesson is: Progamers should bring their emotional relatives to games. Although, that might depress me severely if they lose.


This. They need to show their 'human' side more.

Very interesting analysis on the OSL, great job.
POGGERS
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
April 06 2009 02:10 GMT
#24
On April 05 2009 19:12 Waxangel wrote:
With Garimto, you can really understand this, as he was the TRUE man-toss before Reach. He was manly in that old-fashioned, rugged way, unlike Reach’s makes-you-question-your-sexuality handsomeness.


My favorite line, lol. Great writeup!
"Wow you could literally transport Lomo's face to a girl and the result would be pretty deceptive."
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
April 06 2009 03:46 GMT
#25
I thought the opening was hilariously bad. It's a shame they couldn't broadcast the Winners League finals opening (sadly there were too many time constraints according to my contact in Kespa.) I saw the b-boy crews/beat boxer rehearsing and we also got to see them performance before the finals began - it was really cool seeing a team for Hwaseung and one for CJ squaring off - the same style as the Club Day finals.

I didn't go to the MSL finals (was sick) and I couldn't go to OSL finals (Screw $100 train tickets to Busan.) I'm not too bothered though because neither seemed as though the photos would have been particularly good. I prefer team finals.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
latent
Profile Joined March 2009
United States428 Posts
April 06 2009 19:34 GMT
#26
Fantasy just looked angry. I don't know what you mean by "no more coddling". The dude didn't even say anything to his fans when the announcer directly asked him to. He was only concerned with himself. Yes I myself and probably most others would feel similarly in his situation, but it still came across as rude. Those people came all the way just to support him, and all he could say was "I'll win next time." He didn't even mention the teammates who practiced with him, or his coaches who were obviously playing a huge role in giving him advice throughout the series. He should have said *something* more, even if it hurt some to do it.
Moo
JimSocks
Profile Joined February 2009
United States968 Posts
April 06 2009 23:30 GMT
#27
I don't think fantasy looked angry. To me it looked like he was extremely disappointed.
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-06 23:34:46
April 06 2009 23:32 GMT
#28
Man, oov looked so smug during game 2 when fantasy was crushing Jaedong. Then Jaedong just took Fantasy out so easily. Game 5 was insane, Jaedong's muta micro was just astounding and Fantasy didn't have a ghost of a chance.
Sullifam
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
April 07 2009 02:26 GMT
#29
great writeup! LLWWW is truly amazing. it shows that fantasy really seemed to take it easy after game 2, while jd was playing extra hard to stay alive. then by game 5, jd had the momentum to win it. game 5 looked really bad on fantasy's part.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
April 07 2009 02:50 GMT
#30
silver hoarder for every race now :D
jaedong forever~
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
April 07 2009 07:37 GMT
#31
boxer has four OSL silvers
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
April 07 2009 07:59 GMT
#32
welcome back wax!

nice to hear your thoughts on this series, we really needed this type of blog from someone every time there's a finals. i especially enjoyed the little tidbits only someone who understood korean could get from the broadcast.

i think game 3 of this series is the most impressive game i've seen from a pro in a long time. jaedong stared the grim reaper in the face and didn't blink, finding courage deep down somewhere to pull that game out despite just about everything going against him.

that hydra muta attack was otherworldly not because of its impeccable execution but because of the courage and mental strength behind it.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
latent
Profile Joined March 2009
United States428 Posts
April 07 2009 09:26 GMT
#33
Courage and mental strength...? Stared the grim reaper in the face?

Where can I get one of those fancy licenses for hyperbole?
Moo
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33581 Posts
April 07 2009 11:06 GMT
#34
On April 07 2009 18:26 latent wrote:
Courage and mental strength...? Stared the grim reaper in the face?

Where can I get one of those fancy licenses for hyperbole?


Well, I would like to ask you this then.

Do you simply underrate the seriousness of professional gaming compared to other competitions, or are you just a cynic in general about the emotions involved in human endeavors in general, be it sports or whatnot?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
April 07 2009 12:47 GMT
#35
See, this is the good thing when you didn't get drunk for one Friday night.
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-07 13:49:13
April 07 2009 13:48 GMT
#36
On April 07 2009 18:26 latent wrote:
Courage and mental strength...? Stared the grim reaper in the face?

Where can I get one of those fancy licenses for hyperbole?

you get the fancy license when you can recognize a vulture dying to 2 lings and a drone early game is not completely insignificant:

On April 05 2009 16:15 latent wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2009 15:48 Jaeden wrote:
stop crying anti-fans. That vulture was way before mutas so he could do some pretty good damage and delay the mutas. What's really extraordinary is how JD spotted, and took care of it xD

No I don't think it would have done enough damage to make a difference. Two vultures maybe, but not one. And if fantasy had A-moved instead of right clicking he would have easily taken out the oh-so-scary group of 1 zergling + 2 drones Jaedong sent at it. And it still wouldn't have mattered.

someone once said...
On March 16 2009 13:28 latent wrote:
If you have watched any of the Starcraft classes at the University of Berkeley (videos are online...google 'em!), you'd understand how insanely important it is to keep all of your mining units and keep pumping probes nonstop early on. The loss of probes results in damage that grows exponentially as time goes on. It's quite fascinating stuff.
...

You should have the courage and mental strength to listen to this man!
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
April 07 2009 13:54 GMT
#37
On April 07 2009 20:06 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2009 18:26 latent wrote:
Courage and mental strength...? Stared the grim reaper in the face?

Where can I get one of those fancy licenses for hyperbole?


Well, I would like to ask you this then.

Do you simply underrate the seriousness of professional gaming compared to other competitions, or are you just a cynic in general about the emotions involved in human endeavors in general, be it sports or whatnot?

well, it was the seminal moment of the most recent OSL finals and one of the most epic comebacks by a player many consider to have reached the greatest level of zerg play ever against a player who has a team and coach both of which have a significant and compelling history

but hey nothing to get excited about
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
April 08 2009 03:38 GMT
#38
On April 06 2009 05:10 WaxAngel wrote:
Q: And your parents were there. (GOOD JOB KILLING THE FUCKING MOMENT by saying what we all knew. Still, Jeon Yong Jun is still my favorite announcer ever)



How did that ruin the moment?
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-08 07:57:34
April 08 2009 07:57 GMT
#39
LOL u should see garimto making fun of girls

sickest ownage ever, non stop laughing in their faces, it really never ends, sickest rape

btw: ty jaedong for the money, u scared me for a second there
why so 진지해?
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
April 08 2009 11:45 GMT
#40
On April 08 2009 16:57 Rekrul wrote:
LOL u should see garimto making fun of girls

sickest ownage ever, non stop laughing in their faces, it really never ends, sickest rape

btw: ty jaedong for the money, u scared me for a second there


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