EPTdvorak! - Page 3
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fanatacist
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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Kula
United States140 Posts
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simfarm
Ireland75 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
in the end i decided it was a waste of time, the so-called "gains" are questionable at best. plus qwerty isn't that bad anyway, look at it. etaoin shrdlu are in the top 2 rows, and rare keys like qzxvb are in the hard to reach places. the punctuation layout is questionable of course, but in general qwerty seems to scale fine to other languages as well (in my experience) dvorak, as outlined above, is optimized for english, and english only, the so-called 'optimization' disappears when other languages come into play. there exist different version of it for other languages of course, but is another keyboard layout what you need? anyway i don't really care if i start typing 140wpm instead of 130. after several days of typing at like 50wpm i was ready to gouge my eyes out. FWIW, i learned to touchtype dvorak "properly", with proper key/finger etc (unlike my qwerty which is like on-the-fly lol), and it did feel like the fingers are barely moving, or maybe that's because i couldn't type that fast. anyway dvorak fails with placement of the 'i' key. swap 'i' and 'u' and you'll have yourself insta improvement. seriously, 'u'? | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21247 Posts
On March 15 2009 10:13 simfarm wrote: dvorak's brother was a famous composer. August and Antonin were, IIRC, only distantly related. Not brothers. | ||
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Llamaz
Australia90 Posts
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On March 15 2009 15:50 Llamaz wrote: I've already spent too much time on qwerty =/...and unless dvorak becomes more comman than qwert, I'll probably stick to it. that's terrible reasoning .5 minute | ||
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gchan
United States654 Posts
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
On March 15 2009 06:47 Exteray wrote: Yep ive heard of this. My friend uses and he once tried to convince me. I do believe it drastically improves typing speed but out of habit I'm too lazy to change. Plus i think if u use someone else's computer or at the library's computers u can't really use this layout anymore. When I switched, it took me a few weeks to use dvorak well, then I lost my qwerty knowledge. necessity (starcraft) forced me to relearn a good amount of it so now I can type decently even with qwerty. | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
It's only good when you are typing something that you've written and you just want to type it out. How often does that happen? | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On March 15 2009 22:09 haduken wrote: I still know some dudes from high school and work who type with 2 fingers lol. Me too  | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6642 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
The Best GIFT for any occasion High-quality stickers for different keyboards Desktop, Laptop and Notebook The Dvorak keyboard layout became easier to access in the computer age. Stickers are made of high-quality black non-transparent - matt vinyl, thickness - 80mkn, typographical method. Applying stickers on you keyboard properly once, and you can be aware that letters will stay for ever. Anniversary gift here I come! | ||
intrigue
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
15s maybe i'm just a masochist but this is very fun. 25s | ||
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Australia1353 Posts
Unless you do data entry or something as a job, it's probably not worth screwing up your qwerty muscle memory to learn it for the minimal gain in efficiency. Considering we spend most of our time on a pc not actually typing anyway. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On March 16 2009 08:59 intrigue wrote: i am fairly adept at this now 15s maybe i'm just a masochist but this is very fun. 25s Honestly, if I could buy a keyboard with it I'd give it a go, but I'm too lazy for those stickers. | ||
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aznmathfreak
United States148 Posts
So far, I've gotten to about 30 wpm with colemak, while unfortunately my QWERTY has gone from 95 to 80. It is a little frustrating at first, but I had a few good tools for learning colemak, which I'm sure can be used by any one looking into Dvorack as well. 1. Typefaster - a program that has 12 lessons for easy step by step learning of whatever keyboard you're trying to learn. I think the lessons you have to find separately. I found mine: here 2. typing test - the test has a large database of quotes and phrases from I have no idea where, but some are fun to read/type and keeps practice from being monotonuous. To anyone trying out colemak/dvorak, I would go through all the lessons first, do the common words lesson a few times, and when you feel comfortable, go through with the typing test. Good luck. PS. typed this out in QWERTY, colemak seemed to daunting | ||
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