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Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
October 06 2008 20:51 GMT
#101
LOFL

i love this thread man

wp
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1811 Posts
October 06 2008 20:51 GMT
#102
2008-10-06 22:49:13, TriNitroToluene wrote:
Talkin' bm but not being able to call a taxi X_X

poor guy.
LML
Red9
Profile Joined May 2008
United States64 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-06 20:55:25
October 06 2008 20:52 GMT
#103
bah nvm
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
October 06 2008 20:52 GMT
#104
To sum up idra's post...

All players suck except me in the european scene, america is excluded because A) its not in europe and B) I don't want to offend my only friends
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-06 21:41:11
October 06 2008 20:52 GMT
#105
Doesn't seem to be clear yet lemme just spam a clue for you all:

iNcontroL
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
.gypsy
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada689 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-06 20:53:37
October 06 2008 20:53 GMT
#106
Did no one read IdrA's post where he said he was trolling with incontrol, artosis, machine and g5, is everyone blind rofl..

epic edit :O
https://www.twitch.tv/gypsy93
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
October 06 2008 20:53 GMT
#107
america fuck yeah!
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
HotZhot
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Colombia677 Posts
October 06 2008 20:53 GMT
#108
ROFL!
I only smile in the darK [] sAviOr//JaeDong Fan 4 Ever ~ CJ Entusman # 7
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
October 06 2008 20:53 GMT
#109
...

Uhm... hm. :p
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
October 06 2008 20:54 GMT
#110
Breaking forum layout ftw
✌
JustQuitWarcraftIII
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States679 Posts
October 06 2008 20:54 GMT
#111
I do agree that foreign Tosses are overrated due to the lack of relatively powerful Terrans and Zergs.

No top Terran can beat a top Toss in BO5 consistently. Strelok, Brat, or any other Terrans simply can't match up with JF, Draco, Cloud, Legend, Pj.

Zergs like Mondragon certainly fair better vs top Toss players but they can't really even the scale in the long run either.

For these reasons, foreign Tosses dominate their scene but if they go to Korea, where Terrans and Zergs are entirely different stories, the advantage no longer persists. Just look at people like Draco, Lx, Pj, best tosses of their time, and all of them failed in Korea.
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
October 06 2008 20:54 GMT
#112
INCONTROLL
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
October 06 2008 20:54 GMT
#113
On October 07 2008 05:41 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Nony, JF, Dreiven, Cloud: the best of the best, but not because they rock. Just because they play Protoss, which makes it possible for foreign trash to rule. Once some of these trashy players manage to go to Korea, they'll soon realize that they're trash although they rule the foreign scene, and then they'll leave and quit SC like Draco.

Idra: wannabe gosu who will leave Korea soon b/c of no success at all, except for his pg license which he didn't even earn rightfully (he didn't win the courage tournament (as is to be expected)). Will use this to act in front of foreigners as if he's the best, not realizing that he's trash just like the rest. Will continue to be dominated by previously mentioned foreign Ps at any foreign tournament, despite him being a progamer (omfgz!)

Mondragon: has always been consistently good, especially vs P, but the time of foreign Z (and T) is over. Play P or die. One of very few mannered and mature players. Dying breed - other players like him have already quit long ago.

Other foreign Protosses: trash, but all have the chance to become top foreign players because they play P.

Other foreign Zergs: will lose vs. any of the Ps mentioned at the top. Will never become top players anymore.

Other foreign Terrans: complete trash, but not because they suck so bad. Just because they play Terran which is too hard unless you train multitasking 8 hours a day. Will never become top players anymore.


I think you are a bit too harsh. Calling them "trash" is really unfair. Yes they are bad compared to Koreans but they are still good players. Moreover some like White Ra or JF seem to be mannered and humble .
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
October 06 2008 20:55 GMT
#114
OH HELLO ROFLLFFLLFLF

CHECK GG.NET FOR EPIC FUNNY LINK OF THIS BLOG LAWL
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ZergGenesis
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada2 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-06 20:57:40
October 06 2008 20:55 GMT
#115
With the manners that you have IdrA you have no place in the CJ house, you shouldn't have any place in Korea, and you should really have no place in BW. Honestly, you've gotten to the point you are at with Starcraft due to luck, and nothing more. Your very short of skill and that is a proven fact.

How can someone training with the CJ members fail to win WCG America against as you put it the easiest races in BW? Easy, because they are a very poor player. I don't know how you got to Korea, but it wasn't skill. I hope that soon CJ sees this and sends you home. Your luck will run out soon.
ㅈㅈ
freshtowers
Profile Joined August 2008
Albania64 Posts
October 06 2008 20:56 GMT
#116
On October 07 2008 05:51 NergalSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2008 05:46 freshtowers wrote:
On October 07 2008 05:40 NergalSC wrote:
On October 07 2008 05:39 freshtowers wrote:
On October 07 2008 05:33 NergalSC wrote:
Idra I will say you one thing. Manner > skill.

And even in skill you are basically outclassed by Draco and MIStrZZZ. Despite you having training in Korea they still rape you! :D Same thing with White-Ra. Same thing with NonY. So shut the fuck up and play, kk?

Politeness really is more important than actual intelligence these days huh? Aside from that ROFL statement all those players don't play terran. If you go to korea playing as protoss you're at your 90 % potential so it's really no surprise idra loses many matches, it takes longer to bring out the full potential of a terran player.

Haha yeah - cleaning toilets in Korea is pretty long way to gain full potential.

And flipping hamburgers is really going to get you in a better position than him?

Yes cuz I am not BM trolling kid, ok?

But you're a burger flipping loser instead, ok? too bad your "manners" won't get you anything
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
October 06 2008 20:57 GMT
#117
Didn't Brat_OK win TSL which was the biggest foreign tournament, and isn't he a terran player?
SpriteLove
Profile Joined September 2008
United States226 Posts
October 06 2008 20:57 GMT
#118
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/thread/301428
mG.SpriteLove
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
October 06 2008 20:57 GMT
#119
On October 07 2008 05:55 ZergGenesis wrote:
With the manners that you have IdrA you have no place in the CJ house, you should have any place in Korea, and you should really have no place in BW. Honestly, you've gotten to the point you are at with Starcraft due to luck, and nothing more. Your very short of skill and that is a proven fact.

How can someone training with the CJ members fail to win WCG America against as you put it the easiest races in BW? Easy, because they are a very poor player. I don't know how you got to Korea, but it wasn't skill. I hope that soon CJ sees this and sends you home. Your luck will run out soon.


WELL SAID MAN, THANKS FOR MAKING THAT ACCOUNT TO POST THIS.
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KNICK
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Germany248 Posts
October 06 2008 20:57 GMT
#120
On October 07 2008 05:57 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
Didn't Brat_OK win TSL which was the biggest foreign tournament, and isn't he a terran player?

Indeed, he didn't, but yes, he is.
I close one eye, and I see half. I close both, and I see everything.
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