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New series: The historical accuracy of the Bible

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JesusCruxRH
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
New Zealand159 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-14 22:07:24
October 27 2007 21:03 GMT
#1


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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44124 Posts
October 27 2007 21:10 GMT
#2
Circle doesn't mean sphere. It means circle, which in this context would be a disc. When they mean sphere they'll say sphere, the Bible is after all infallible. If it were fairly close to the truth but not quite there then maybe they could say circle and mean sphere. But it can't be doubted the Bible says circle and as such the world is a disc.
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Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-27 21:17:21
October 27 2007 21:16 GMT
#3
The bible is not meant to be literal, it's a message which is to be interpreted.
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Rayzorblade
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1172 Posts
October 27 2007 21:18 GMT
#4
once (when I used to attend church regularly) as a boy this professor came to discuss certain aspects of the bible that were interesting, like the examples you give in the book of Job & some you haven't, but which i've always found interesting.

for instance, when God rebukes Job near the end of the book, He says certain things that we should now marvel about - when God asked "Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow?" was He referring to the natural (and rather mystic) creation of a snowflake; today we now know that no two snowflakes are alike ever and just why this happens. . . well, we just don't know.

similarly, God's reference to the "behemoth" in Chapter 40, verses 15-24 are also interesting - God describes this monstrous creature (to cite some of it) whose bones are like iron and his thirst unquenchable even by the Jordan river. a creature of this kind of magnitude could have only been some kind of dinosaur, but science tells us that their dynasty ended well before man crawled out of the jungle. what is it then?

just some other mysteries of the Bible I remembered. . .
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
October 27 2007 21:43 GMT
#5
massive flood covering the entirety of the earth in 40 feet of water of which there is no concrete evidence?

quite accurate indeed.
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intotherainx
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States504 Posts
October 27 2007 22:33 GMT
#6
I think if you post a religion-related topic on teamliquid, there are bound to be many people who will disagree with you because they just don't like religion (and conversely those who support you because they like religion). It is very hard to find people who will discuss the topic without flaming each other or just acting irrationally.

On October 28 2007 06:10 Kwark wrote:
Circle doesn't mean sphere. It means circle, which in this context would be a disc. When they mean sphere they'll say sphere, the Bible is after all infallible. If it were fairly close to the truth but not quite there then maybe they could say circle and mean sphere. But it can't be doubted the Bible says circle and as such the world is a disc.


Why would it mean a disc "in this context"? Because you say so? It could also mean something like a sphere. Even if you were "correct," which I don't think anyone can be for sure, what if 2000 years ago the word "circle" meant something different in contexts? What if the word for sphere never even existed?

Lol, I can't believe I just entertained a superficial, poorly-thought-out argument about a wrong definition of a circle. Props to you for being bait to waste my time.
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
October 27 2007 23:00 GMT
#7
You guys discussed this one single verse about the mention of a spherical world to base your idea of the bible being scientific?
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
October 27 2007 23:02 GMT
#8
You ever wonder why you got banned the first time?
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BalloonFight
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States2007 Posts
October 27 2007 23:22 GMT
#9
Rebelheart, please stop trying to impose your beliefs on this forum. We don't care.

Signed,

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Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-28 01:01:51
October 28 2007 01:01 GMT
#10
To me it's just one big book full of stories which a random person wrote.

I can't imagine any rational being taking the bible serious. Even considering it's historical acurateness is a joke. I wish people would shut the fuck up about the bible already.
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-28 02:46:07
October 28 2007 02:38 GMT
#11
I have an exercise for you Rebelheart: find out how the bible was created, how it came to be, its history, the authors. That is the first step. When you finish that step. I will give you the second.
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MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
October 28 2007 10:29 GMT
#12
LiquipediaOne eye to kill. Two eyes to live.
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6228 Posts
October 28 2007 22:48 GMT
#13
I believe the bible said a man survived being eaten by a whale for three days. Am I mistaken? Or that there was a flood which covered the earth, and then the waters miraculously... disappeared? Since it did cover the earth, there would have been nowhere for the water to recede to. Any child could point out the flaws in the bible scientifically, if he were to think about it hard enough.
good vibes only
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6228 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-28 23:13:42
October 28 2007 22:58 GMT
#14
On October 28 2007 07:33 intotherainx wrote:
I think if you post a religion-related topic on teamliquid, there are bound to be many people who will disagree with you because they just don't like religion (and conversely those who support you because they like religion). It is very hard to find people who will discuss the topic without flaming each other or just acting irrationally.

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On October 28 2007 06:10 Kwark wrote:
Circle doesn't mean sphere. It means circle, which in this context would be a disc. When they mean sphere they'll say sphere, the Bible is after all infallible. If it were fairly close to the truth but not quite there then maybe they could say circle and mean sphere. But it can't be doubted the Bible says circle and as such the world is a disc.


Why would it mean a disc "in this context"? Because you say so? It could also mean something like a sphere. Even if you were "correct," which I don't think anyone can be for sure, what if 2000 years ago the word "circle" meant something different in contexts? What if the word for sphere never even existed?

Lol, I can't believe I just entertained a superficial, poorly-thought-out argument about a wrong definition of a circle. Props to you for being bait to waste my time.


You don't have to defend the ill-informed assertions of our ancestors to make you feel good about your beliefs. Arguing semantics to support 'scientic' 'evidence' (Don't argue that you never said scientific evidence, please) of the bible is just... backwards.
good vibes only
TesisMech
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Peru688 Posts
October 28 2007 23:01 GMT
#15
On October 28 2007 08:22 BalloonFight wrote:
Rebelheart, please stop trying to impose your beliefs on this forum. We don't care.

Signed,

TL.net

No , its his blog
TesisMech
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Peru688 Posts
October 28 2007 23:16 GMT
#16
On October 29 2007 07:48 Meta wrote:
I believe the bible said a man survived being eaten by a whale for three days. Am I mistaken? Or that there was a flood which covered the earth, and then the waters miraculously... disappeared? Since it did cover the earth, there would have been nowhere for the water to recede to. Any child could point out the flaws in the bible scientifically, if he were to think about it hard enough.

Perhaps all of the layers of strata that we see around the world were formed by that world-wide flood?
OverTheUnder
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2929 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-28 23:52:51
October 28 2007 23:50 GMT
#17
On October 29 2007 08:16 TesisMech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2007 07:48 Meta wrote:
I believe the bible said a man survived being eaten by a whale for three days. Am I mistaken? Or that there was a flood which covered the earth, and then the waters miraculously... disappeared? Since it did cover the earth, there would have been nowhere for the water to recede to. Any child could point out the flaws in the bible scientifically, if he were to think about it hard enough.

Perhaps all of the layers of strata that we see around the world were formed by that world-wide flood?


except that isn't how it would work. There wouldn't be multiple strata layers and we would see all different types of animals in the same strata layer. The fact is we don't, because most of these animals did not exist at the same time;(

You are also ignoring all the other affects a global flood would have had. It would be VERY evident.

And of course the question "where did the water come from?" Most creationists say there was a layer of water above the earth in pre flood times........


...

that shouldn't even need to be argued against;(
Honor would be taking it up the ass and curing all diseases, damn how stupid can people get. -baal http://puertoricanbw.ytmnd.com/
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
October 29 2007 00:09 GMT
#18
I want to ban you so badly.
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Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6228 Posts
October 29 2007 00:37 GMT
#19
On October 29 2007 08:16 TesisMech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2007 07:48 Meta wrote:
I believe the bible said a man survived being eaten by a whale for three days. Am I mistaken? Or that there was a flood which covered the earth, and then the waters miraculously... disappeared? Since it did cover the earth, there would have been nowhere for the water to recede to. Any child could point out the flaws in the bible scientifically, if he were to think about it hard enough.

Perhaps all of the layers of strata that we see around the world were formed by that world-wide flood?

Are you seriously arguing that the earth used to be 100% covered in water? Do you really believe that noah went out and got two kinds of all the spicies of animals on the earth today (since evolution doesn't exist, right? all the animals that exist today must be direct descendants from the animals on the ark?) including the over 250,000 spicies of beatles from all over the world? And then these wild animals from completely different ecosystems survived for fourty days and nights on a wooden boat without dying/eating each other?

Please don't insult your intellegence.
good vibes only
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10832 Posts
October 29 2007 01:02 GMT
#20
it's his blog

no one is forcing you to read it

stop complaining
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