On July 25 2015 12:23 Djzapz wrote: Forgive me for saying this, but despite the fact that I very much agree with Sander's platform, I can't help to feel like the direction of this thread is weirdly dogmatic. To me this weird PR-type narrative of "look at the numbers and click those links and get engrossed and absorbed in this movement" just reminds me of a walmart ad. Click here do this and that we want a big footprint. Call me a cynic, I just don't associate Bernie Sander's momentum or his general character to this kind of used car salesman's pitch.
Fair enough. Sometimes my inner salesperson seeps through. I'd happily change it if you could point to some specifics.
I'm practically blind to it when I write it myself. I'm very open to constructive criticism
The idea of the thread is to show what's being generated by the grassroots, I want it to have a presentation worth of the efforts that are going into the stuff being produced. So advice as how I could do that better would be helpful.
I don't know, frankly this is a new way to do politics even by Canadian standards and I wouldn't know what the proper approach would be. I spent a couple of months as a political attaché/press officer for a provincial MP who barely lost his election and from being completely immersed in it I can tell you that the dirtiest part of politics as far as I'm concerned was the cherrypicking of statistics and numbers to impress people who don't understand them, and then putting them in cute graphics.
The first thing that reminded me of old dirty politics was the image posted above, "I was ready for Hillary until Bernie 2016". I understand, it's thinly veiled dirty politics though, and it's what I did a few years back. I'd work with a graphic designer, feed him some bullshit numbers and catchphrases, cherrypick quotes and information that people wanted to hear. The image in question is perhaps harmless but to me it seems like when you added the numbers about Bernie Sanders growing fast based on website traffic. It's not uninteresting, but I'd just keep that low. Same with the campaign donation numbers, it seems like the mass media are more interested in talking about millions of dollars than millions of people.
If I were you, I'd try to stir this thread towards his policies, his recent declarations that matter, as well as bringing up the glassroots stuff and meetings and general interest in Sanders. Not saying "75000 people care about this". I don't care. Trump cares about these metrics. I care about policy.
Granted I'll give you that it makes sense to be working on tackling people's skepticism, mine included, but to me it's clear that there's a big movement that's coming alive and if that's true it'll be self explanatory and at the end of the day what goes unreported in the media is not the poll numbers but the actual platform that people remain ignorant about.
Yeah right now there's still a huge part of America who doesn't even know who "Bernie Sanders" is. So it's mostly just been exposing that he exists and Hillary is NOT the automatic nominee.
I appreciate the perspective. I'll digest it a bit more before I write a more thorough response.
We are at nearly 75,000 people at almost 2,500 meetings across the country on July 29th to start our grassroots campaign for Bernie Sanders
If you haven't looked recently for a meeting in your area please check again as they are constantly being added. If you are already attending a meeting please find a way (facebook, twitter, email, face-to-face etc...) to share that you are going to a meeting and try to bring some friends.
In addition there will be LIVE streams hosted by grassroots reporters from across the country on Bernie2016TV all evening on the 29th. If you would like to participate LIVE or just submit some video or pictures from you're meeting send me a PM (or post here) and I will contact you with the details to get your event/video/pictures broadcast across the country.
We are making history on July 29th and we would really love for you to join in any way possible.
Not American, but I do think voting for this guy is a way to make a statement on certain political issues in the country, regardless of if he gets in or not.
I just got back from a Bernie meetup and it was amazing, so many people, my feeds are full of house parties, and big 300+ people events.
The Bernie2016TV stream was awesome and I didn't watch myself but I heard over 3 million people watched Bernie speak online through his official stream.
Turns out there are some people from the Ron Paul camp that like enough of Bernie's positions and particularly his honesty and integrity that they are likely to vote Sanders.
Eh, revolutions are messy. What's sad is how little we are doing as a country to address the concerns of BLM and how easily we are divided.
What makes me personally sad is I met Symone Sanders at the Seattle event and didn't even realize who she was at the time
I agree that there is a lot of progress to be made but it seems to me like the BLM movement should take what's available and support men like Sanders (or a man like Sanders since they don't seem to be too common). I mean, part of their rhetoric is about massive wage inequity, which is basically at the top of Sander's platform, and he also supports things like cameras on police officers and such measures which would decrease police brutality against black people. He wants to close private prisons, and the very notion of privately owned prisons is just about the most ridiculous thing imaginable (when I heard about them, I thought it was a joke). Sanders also doesn't care very much for the war on drugs which as we know puts a lot of black people in jail.
Sanders is by far the best hope the black people of the US have. It's fucking obvious.
Eh, revolutions are messy. What's sad is how little we are doing as a country to address the concerns of BLM and how easily we are divided.
What makes me personally sad is I met Symone Sanders at the Seattle event and didn't even realize who she was at the time
I agree that there is a lot of progress to be made but it seems to me like the BLM movement should take what's available and support men like Sanders (or a man like Sanders since they don't seem to be too common). I mean, part of their rhetoric is about massive wage inequity, which is basically at the top of Sander's platform, and he also supports things like cameras on police officers and such measures which would decrease police brutality against black people. He wants to close private prisons, and the very notion of privately owned prisons is just about the most ridiculous thing imaginable (when I heard about them, I thought it was a joke). Sanders also doesn't care very much for the war on drugs which as we know puts a lot of black people in jail.
Sanders is by far the best hope the black people of the US have. It's fucking obvious.
It's even more sad (and hilarious) given Sanders' civil rights record. Reminds me a little of the Vagina Monologues which were radical 20 years ago but are considered conservative by the radical feminists of today.
I think it's undeniable that Sanders has changed his tune since the disruptions which was a core purpose of them.
"Son of Baldwin" Summed it up this way:
Mad liberals/progressives: "Disrupting Bernie Sanders is a bad strategy and won't change anything. Sanders is already an advocate for black people's civil rights! Your disruptions won't achieve anything! You're just making you and your cause look bad!"
Bernie Sanders: *Adds explicit support of "racial justice," officially, to his website and platform, and hires an activist, a black woman, as his campaign spokesperson after being targeted for disruption* (Thanks Malkia Hutchinson for the update!)
In a story that's quintessentially Bernie Sanders, a group of strangers from across the Internet has come together to build an exhaustive new site about the Democratic presidential candidate, without pay, for a cause they believe in. The site is called FeelTheBern.org, named after the unofficial slogan that has caught fire among his supporters. Like the candidate himself, the website has gone viral seemingly overnight. Since launching two days ago, it has been shared over 31,000 times on Facebook and 1,600 times on Twitter, according to stats on the homepage. Site founder Daniela Perdomo, co-founder and CEO of Brooklyn tech start-up goTenna, says the site is "approaching a million pageviews." And for good reason: the site covers the Vermont senator's stances on 18 issues, contextualized with accessible explainers, videos, and graphics. It's arguably one of the most comprehensive candidate websites out there.
The site came together in 32 days, starting with a post from Perdomo, published in a Sanders subreddit July 9. Perdomo, 30, who has followed the senator's career for years, said she was frustrated by how media outlets first reported on his candidacy — as a long shot in relation to Hillary Clinton, or as an outlier in the race for his progressive views. She noticed, however, that the senator seemed to have a strong push on the Internet. "What was really cool to see was in spite of the media not really telling the Bernie Sanders story," she says, was that "people were still telling his story on social media — and that was very exciting to me."
That's basically why I laugh when someone says "just another politician". I'm sure one with Hillary will be out soon and it'll sound a little different.
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. Still good to have.
