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Girls joining sc2 teams!

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CadenZie
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)545 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 22:29:26
December 13 2011 21:07 GMT
#1


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keiraknightlee
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States301 Posts
December 13 2011 21:16 GMT
#2
This isn't new by any stretch of the imagination man. Even in BW the STX Soul team had Tossgirl on their roster but she never played any games (broadcast or practice) and didn't even live in the team house. She was there purely as a novelty. Girls can compete but will never be able to compete with the best men. So in the end they are in esports for promotional purposes.
~~~Happiness. Dreams. Love~~~Good Luck
lantz
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States762 Posts
December 13 2011 21:20 GMT
#3
ok but I have a serious question: are you hot? seems like they only recruit hot girls and there are a few GM girls that aren't on a pro team...

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natebreen
Profile Joined June 2011
United States184 Posts
December 13 2011 21:22 GMT
#4
Claim you don't want to join a pro team because you don't want to be seen as a model or spokeswoman.

Tease your "fans" that you may return soon.

Women rofl.

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CadenZie
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)545 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 21:27:17
December 13 2011 21:25 GMT
#5
when I say return I mean return to streaming/playing with friends only, so it would only be my games that they see, and I almost certainly don't have any "fans" I just thought it would be a little funny to put that instead of friends. Sorry for the confusion!
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
December 13 2011 21:26 GMT
#6
On December 14 2011 06:22 natebreen wrote:
Claim you don't want to join a pro team because you don't want to be seen as a model or spokeswoman.

Tease your "fans" that you may return soon.

Women rofl.

o god lol.....No comment on this
Greed leads to just about all losses.
DeeeJ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States65 Posts
December 13 2011 21:33 GMT
#7
this threads needs pics

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Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
December 13 2011 21:37 GMT
#8
I apologize on behalf of teamliquid for the comments above mine.
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XXGeneration
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States625 Posts
December 13 2011 21:40 GMT
#9
I don't know what's up with the sexism here..

OP I think you must realize that, displayed in the above posts, girls aren't thought of more than just spokespeople in the gaming world for now. However, I do wish you luck in your future endeavors!
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas
Carapas
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada242 Posts
December 13 2011 21:43 GMT
#10
I think girls have no place in E-sports right now, because they just act as mascots right now. I don't want to be sexist by the way. I just think that for females to have a real place in E-Sports they need a real tournament infrastructure beforehand. You don't build a house by starting with the roof. I think girls should perform first, gain audience, join teams, ???, profit for everyone!!! Because right now they just join teams because they are cute and then they just don't even play a tournament game.
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
December 13 2011 21:55 GMT
#11
On December 14 2011 06:43 Carapas wrote:
I think girls have no place in E-sports right now, because they just act as mascots right now. I don't want to be sexist by the way. I just think that for females to have a real place in E-Sports they need a real tournament infrastructure beforehand. You don't build a house by starting with the roof. I think girls should perform first, gain audience, join teams, ???, profit for everyone!!! Because right now they just join teams because they are cute and then they just don't even play a tournament game.


Like she said though, it's hard to keep improving without a team. So yeah, it's up to the teams to take their contractees seriously and properly invest in training them. Should be regardless of gender of course but it'd be nice if a team would seriously invest in training some female gamers. Hopefully this is what eSahara is doing, right?
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
December 13 2011 21:59 GMT
#12
good luck, see you in hots
banelings
natebreen
Profile Joined June 2011
United States184 Posts
December 13 2011 22:00 GMT
#13
On December 14 2011 06:55 Pholon wrote:
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On December 14 2011 06:43 Carapas wrote:
I think girls have no place in E-sports right now, because they just act as mascots right now. I don't want to be sexist by the way. I just think that for females to have a real place in E-Sports they need a real tournament infrastructure beforehand. You don't build a house by starting with the roof. I think girls should perform first, gain audience, join teams, ???, profit for everyone!!! Because right now they just join teams because they are cute and then they just don't even play a tournament game.


Like she said though, it's hard to keep improving without a team. So yeah, it's up to the teams to take their contractees seriously and properly invest in training them. Should be regardless of gender of course but it'd be nice if a team would seriously invest in training some female gamers. Hopefully this is what eSahara is doing, right?


Climb the ladder (not meant literally).

Ladder/Replays/Forums.

Then groups of friends.

Customs

Clans

Bigger Clans

Competitive Clans

Sponsored Teams

etc.

Jumping the line from laddering/Replays/Forums/Friends to Sponsored Team because of your gender is a bit silly.
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
December 13 2011 22:07 GMT
#14
Well yeah, that's what should happen and what is, hopefully, happening.. I wouldn't even mind the "jumping the line" if a team sees true potential. What I disagree with you with is that you say girls have no place at all in esports. I feel it depends on how teams treat them. If a team, f. e. picks up the winner of that zowie cup and says "okay we're going to make a proper sc2 player out of you" then yes girls would have a place.
Also please don't post like fusiondf
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rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 22:25:16
December 13 2011 22:20 GMT
#15
it is only hard to keep improving without analytical talent, someone with talent male or female will be able to improve their play with or with no team. And of course if that person indeed has analytical skills he/she will clearly see the difference between their play and the plays of the best, they themselves can easily make the judgement on whether or not to chase this esport dream. It would be pretty stupid for a team to invest on someone who isn't talented enough to make that decision he/herself, unless the team has no intention of investing on that person, instead using that person's gender to promote the team's logo, in that case fuck that team.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 13 2011 23:51 GMT
#16
On December 14 2011 06:20 needcomputer wrote:
ok but I have a serious question: are you hot? seems like they only recruit hot girls and there are a few GM girls that aren't on a pro team...

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This is a fair question... most sc2 girls on pro teams are fairly attractive....

maybe girls get +10 to sexy when they play decently high levels of sc2?
liftlift > tsm
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
December 14 2011 00:00 GMT
#17
I think its more of a marketing thing tbh, I think many teams are doing it to try and appeal to a bigger crowd. Do i think that these females deserve it? well thats not my judgement call. I do however think that skill is the most important thing but like i said before, the teams aren't recruiting women for skill. Its for exposure.
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mrafaeldie12
Profile Joined July 2011
Brazil537 Posts
December 14 2011 00:03 GMT
#18
After reading most posts on this thread I now agree with OP about being mascot for a team.Imagine having these guys walking up to you and asking for an autograph...
"..it all comes thumbling down thumbling down thumblin down"
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 14 2011 00:05 GMT
#19
On December 14 2011 09:00 ReachTheSky wrote:
I think its more of a marketing thing tbh, I think many teams are doing it to try and appeal to a bigger crowd. Do i think that these females deserve it? well thats not my judgement call. I do however think that skill is the most important thing but like i said before, the teams aren't recruiting women for skill. Its for exposure.

Marketing is fine, probably a similar reason why Quantic picked up Destiny, for entertainment value.

But tbh i haven't seen all that much marketing from females from teams, aside from the pick-up onto the team.
liftlift > tsm
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
December 14 2011 00:54 GMT
#20
On December 14 2011 08:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 06:20 needcomputer wrote:
ok but I have a serious question: are you hot? seems like they only recruit hot girls and there are a few GM girls that aren't on a pro team...

User was warned for this post

This is a fair question... most sc2 girls on pro teams are fairly attractive....

maybe girls get +10 to sexy when they play decently high levels of sc2?

I'm pretty sure the entire point is that those teams only pick up female players that will add good publicity (aka are decent looking).
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