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On March 23 2011 08:08 prOxi.swAMi wrote: Rosemary and honey rack of lamb, dude. Best orgasm you'll ever have.
Work up to it though.
Hmmm, my mouth starts watering even from hearing it. i wouldn't reccomend it for him in the first jear though. I just realized some salmon on toast would be a nice starter and move on from there
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I love chicken Sauce makes everything great ^^ lol it's ur friend.
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The people advising a steak are retarded. Start slow and work your way up. And even then, stick with well-done steaks until you want to maybe try the idea of rare/medium rare.
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Like everyone has been saying start small with chicken/turkey/fish, but man if you havent had bacon in 20 years i feel bad for you. When your stomach is able to handle it go out to the market and grab yourself some bacon. Your welcome.
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On March 23 2011 10:49 Dhalphir wrote: The people advising a steak are retarded. Start slow and work your way up. And even then, stick with well-done steaks until you want to maybe try the idea of rare/medium rare.
Dude, you can tell people you disagree with them without calling them retards.
OP, I'd stick with fish if I were you. No real reason to eat red meat or chicken when you can eat fish. Fatty fishes like salmon are full of healthy fats, vitamins and protein. Compared to beef, they are a much much healthier source of the things you're looking for by reincorporating meat into your diet.
Good luck! Wanna go in depth as to how you've spent 20 years as a vegetarian? I'm at about 1/10 of that. Was that since birth?
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United States41567 Posts
On March 23 2011 07:13 Terrakin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2011 06:33 KwarK wrote:On March 23 2011 06:14 Terrakin wrote: Also, for the do not eat part, do NOT eat chain fast food meat unless it is chicken. Recently they found out the grade in the ground beef at taco bell was lower quality than dog food ( although there is some really nice dog food out there lol..) and some woman kept a mcdonalds cheeseburger for like 20 years or something with no mold or deterioration... This is an urban myth. There is no such thing as a meat grade. Well, in America(USDA) is is NOT an urban myth, there is different grades of meat for different types and different purposes. It is like saying every steak will be the same, or every filet mingon is the same amount of lean-ness or marbling. Your country may not grade your meat, but that doesn't mean it is an urban myth. My apologies, there is no dog food grade. http://www.snopes.com/food/prepare/badmeat.asp
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On March 23 2011 12:09 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2011 07:13 Terrakin wrote:On March 23 2011 06:33 KwarK wrote:On March 23 2011 06:14 Terrakin wrote: Also, for the do not eat part, do NOT eat chain fast food meat unless it is chicken. Recently they found out the grade in the ground beef at taco bell was lower quality than dog food ( although there is some really nice dog food out there lol..) and some woman kept a mcdonalds cheeseburger for like 20 years or something with no mold or deterioration... This is an urban myth. There is no such thing as a meat grade. Well, in America(USDA) is is NOT an urban myth, there is different grades of meat for different types and different purposes. It is like saying every steak will be the same, or every filet mingon is the same amount of lean-ness or marbling. Your country may not grade your meat, but that doesn't mean it is an urban myth. My apologies, there is no dog food grade. http://www.snopes.com/food/prepare/badmeat.asp
"There are thirteen (13) beef grades in the Canadian system. They are Canada A, Canada AA, Canada AAA, Canada Prime, Canada B1, Canada B2, Canada B3, Canada B4, Canada D1, Canada D2, Canada D3, Canada D4, and Canada E. The four Canada A/AA/AAA/Prime grades are the highest quality Canadian grades and represented 88% of all graded beef in 2008." http://www.cbef.com/beefquality.htm
Supporting you not disagreeing. Meat that is not fit to serve does NOT get put on to the shelves as for some reason people worry about...
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From what I know, if a long time vergeterian starts to eat meat. You will find meat quite "disgusting". Just try to mix some chicken with your salad or something. Steaks are need to be avoided. GL HF man, i don't understand why people avoid meat if they are not a monk :D. Meat is FUN.
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On March 23 2011 14:04 Caphe wrote: From what I know, if a long time vergeterian starts to eat meat. You will find meat quite "disgusting". Just try to mix some chicken with your salad or something. Steaks are need to be avoided. GL HF man, i don't understand why people avoid meat if they are not a monk :D. Meat is FUN. Fairly good advice - start slow and work your way up. If you take things slowly, and don't overreact to some stomach pains, you should be good in a little amount of time (I think).
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On March 23 2011 11:44 Lexpar wrote: Good luck! Wanna go in depth as to how you've spent 20 years as a vegetarian? I'm at about 1/10 of that. Was that since birth?
Yeah I've been a vegetarian since birth. I was vegetarian for religious reasons at first (relating to Hinduism), but then I became an atheist. At that point, I was only a vegetarian because it was a part of my routine. Now, I feel the need to move on from that and try new things in life.
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On March 23 2011 16:04 omnikaush wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2011 11:44 Lexpar wrote: Good luck! Wanna go in depth as to how you've spent 20 years as a vegetarian? I'm at about 1/10 of that. Was that since birth? Yeah I've been a vegetarian since birth. I was vegetarian for religious reasons at first (relating to Hinduism), but then I became an atheist. At that point, I was only a vegetarian because it was a part of my routine. Now, I feel the need to move on from that and try new things in life.
I think it's just convenient for you to get accustomed to eating meat. Even if you're perfectly healthy without it, it just opens up a lot of dining options at restaurants, grocery stores, etc. I went to a dim sum restaurant with a group of friends, one of which was a vegetarian, and considering how much meat Cantonese dim sum has, she was limited to very few dishes.
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On March 23 2011 07:56 Piy wrote: Well, you don't need to take suppliments and you don't need meat for protein. And meat is really bad for you, all types.
The idea that someone would actually eat meat for health reasons confuses me deeply. Like just the fact that it's going to rape your system when you start should be reason enough not to. If meat is bad for you in all types you obviously don't understand how humans evolved and the power of cooking. As far as meat that is pretty good for someone who is inactive etc, probably just running with something lean will do. People say oh fish, chicken over things like cow pig horse etc but in reality it's closer to proportions and how you prep the food. Cover your fish in 1000 types of dressing and cook it with crap all over it and it will be pretty delightful for you to eat, but probably not the best thing in the world to eat on a regular basis.
On March 23 2011 12:09 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2011 07:13 Terrakin wrote:On March 23 2011 06:33 KwarK wrote:On March 23 2011 06:14 Terrakin wrote: Also, for the do not eat part, do NOT eat chain fast food meat unless it is chicken. Recently they found out the grade in the ground beef at taco bell was lower quality than dog food ( although there is some really nice dog food out there lol..) and some woman kept a mcdonalds cheeseburger for like 20 years or something with no mold or deterioration... This is an urban myth. There is no such thing as a meat grade. Well, in America(USDA) is is NOT an urban myth, there is different grades of meat for different types and different purposes. It is like saying every steak will be the same, or every filet mingon is the same amount of lean-ness or marbling. Your country may not grade your meat, but that doesn't mean it is an urban myth. My apologies, there is no dog food grade. http://www.snopes.com/food/prepare/badmeat.asp Woot USDA thank the jungle whos point was the plight of the working man in the meat industry but what people got from it, omfg that's how they prep the food i'm eating.
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I'd try something basic like chicken noodle soup, or pepperoni pizza. Both are pretty good and I think should be fairly easy on you. Just make sure the pizza isn't super greasy.
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Can't imagine not having eaten meat. Have it in at least two meals a day.
My guess is your stomach will have a bit of a wtf reaction to all the protein. If you eat a lot of meat early morning your stomach can react kind of violently to it, makes you feel sick.
Start with chicken, move onto casserole/stew beef. Then go for a steak. Then start hitting the venison.
Have fun!
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On March 23 2011 08:00 jimmyjingle wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2011 07:56 Piy wrote: Well, you don't need to take suppliments and you don't need meat for protein. And meat is really bad for you, all types.
The idea that someone would actually eat meat for health reasons confuses me deeply. Like just the fact that it's going to rape your system when you start should be reason enough not to. dude looks mad unhealthy
How could meat be unhealthy lol? Humans are designed/evolved to eat meat and you can NOT be in perfect shape without lots and lots of meat.
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On March 24 2011 02:38 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2011 08:00 jimmyjingle wrote:On March 23 2011 07:56 Piy wrote: Well, you don't need to take suppliments and you don't need meat for protein. And meat is really bad for you, all types.
The idea that someone would actually eat meat for health reasons confuses me deeply. Like just the fact that it's going to rape your system when you start should be reason enough not to. dude looks mad unhealthy How could meat be unhealthy lol? Humans are designed/evolved to eat meat and you can NOT be in perfect shape without lots and lots of meat.
so many things wrong in all of the above?
of course you don't need to take supplements and you don't need meat to have adequate protein, but you gotta really plan your vegetarian diet very well and be very careful about it. it's not just protein that's an issue if you go vegetarian.
and how is meat going to rape your system? i'm gonna postulate that it's more of a psychological thing than anything, i don't see how your body can un-adapt to being able to digest meat well. the digestive tract has a very large reserve digestive capability to begin with, and almost everybody produces the same digestive enzymes. i don't see how the vegetarians are physiologically different from meat-eaters. whenever you eat meat i'm sure your body will be able to cope with it no problem.
and obviously to the above post, it is clearly possible to be in really good shape without "lots and lots of meat". that's just absurd.
anyway, some on-topic advice, my girlfriend was vegetarian for many many years until she decided it was inconvenient, so we started with me buying her a box of chicken mcnuggets. haha. most un-meaty, processed garbage ever, but that was quite a manageable starting point for her.
a few weeks later she went on a holiday with her family to mongolia and she said all the meals served there were largely meat dishes, and she had no problems coping at all.
so to the OP i wouldn't really worry that much, sure, everybody's saying take it slow, eat tiny amounts to start off, but i'm sure you just need to get your mind used to the idea of it and you'll have no problems at all
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Korea (South)11567 Posts
On March 24 2011 03:38 pppppppppp wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 02:38 Slayer91 wrote:On March 23 2011 08:00 jimmyjingle wrote:On March 23 2011 07:56 Piy wrote: Well, you don't need to take suppliments and you don't need meat for protein. And meat is really bad for you, all types.
The idea that someone would actually eat meat for health reasons confuses me deeply. Like just the fact that it's going to rape your system when you start should be reason enough not to. dude looks mad unhealthy How could meat be unhealthy lol? Humans are designed/evolved to eat meat and you can NOT be in perfect shape without lots and lots of meat. so many things wrong in all of the above? of course you don't need to take supplements and you don't need meat to have adequate protein, but you gotta really plan your vegetarian diet very well and be very careful about it. it's not just protein that's an issue if you go vegetarian. and how is meat going to rape your system? i'm gonna postulate that it's more of a psychological thing than anything, i don't see how your body can un-adapt to being able to digest meat well. the digestive tract has a very large reserve digestive capability to begin with, and almost everybody produces the same digestive enzymes. i don't see how the vegetarians are physiologically different from meat-eaters. whenever you eat meat i'm sure your body will be able to cope with it no problem. and obviously to the above post, it is clearly possible to be in really good shape without "lots and lots of meat". that's just absurd. anyway, some on-topic advice, my girlfriend was vegetarian for many many years until she decided it was inconvenient, so we started with me buying her a box of chicken mcnuggets. haha. most un-meaty, processed garbage ever, but that was quite a manageable starting point for her. a few weeks later she went on a holiday with her family to mongolia and she said all the meals served there were largely meat dishes, and she had no problems coping at all. so to the OP i wouldn't really worry that much, sure, everybody's saying take it slow, eat tiny amounts to start off, but i'm sure you just need to get your mind used to the idea of it and you'll have no problems at all
When you don't eat meat for years, and for the OP's case if you have never had meat before, then your stomach doesn't create the enzymes required to process meat. It's not a mental thing.
Start off slow, maybe with a chicken & vegetable soup. And be cautious as to how much meat you eat. It can take months for you to be able to process red meats.
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If you eat osmething heavy your body will want to kill you, take small amounts of something REALLY light like fish and shellfish and slowly, slowly move up to white meat chicken or lean turkey before going to beef
and ffs don't get medium rare any time soon.
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humans are what is called a mixed feeder. we can eat both meat and plants it all comes down to personal morals and their ethics
humans and omnivores have small mouths - carnivores have big mouths humans and omnivores chew their food - carnivores swallow large chunks humans and omnivores have long intestine tracts - carnivores have short intestine tracts
but also, our stomach has a pH level that allows us to digest meat. our stomach produces hydrochloric acid - omnivores cannot our 2 k9 teeth helps us to rip up meat and other tough foods - omnivores don't have these teeth the pancreas can produce many enzymes that help digest meat and plants. so if someone hasn't eaten meat, in say 20 years, he wont have those enzymes readily available in his intestines. he would need to start slow to build up to a level where he can efficiently digest meat
it's all morals and ethics.. morals and ethics
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