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I've underwent tear gas training
damn that thing hurts like mad! basically what i do is to get in chamber,do some basic exercises(jumping jack,pumping) , change my mask filter.
the highlight is the last part where i have to take off my mask,exposing myself to the tear gas and say out loud my Rank Name & IC with my eyes open.
that gas reallly burns like mad haha. in so much pain,i managed to read out everything,but i did get one breath of teargas and damn. it hurts,my eyes were watering...compared to some friends who actually had snot dripping out of their nose i think i handled it pretty well.
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On March 06 2011 11:51 Kukaracha wrote:
I have a question: in the army, do you have many kids who enjoy war, or do most of the people prefer being in the army without actually fighting?
i dunno really. a lot of people i talked to in basic were talking about killing someone and many of them said they didn't think they'd be able to handle it. i'm not sure why they joined the army though, lol.
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On March 06 2011 18:29 Nitrogen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2011 11:51 Kukaracha wrote:
I have a question: in the army, do you have many kids who enjoy war, or do most of the people prefer being in the army without actually fighting? i dunno really. a lot of people i talked to in basic were talking about killing someone and many of them said they didn't think they'd be able to handle it. i'm not sure why they joined the army though, lol.
I fear that first person shooter games more and more are motivating people to join the military for the wrong reasons.
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On March 06 2011 18:29 Nitrogen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2011 11:51 Kukaracha wrote:
I have a question: in the army, do you have many kids who enjoy war, or do most of the people prefer being in the army without actually fighting? i dunno really. a lot of people i talked to in basic were talking about killing someone and many of them said they didn't think they'd be able to handle it. i'm not sure why they joined the army though, lol.
Shooting "objects" is much easier. Plus some of the perks aren't too bad.
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I have a question. I've thought about joining the army, maybe as a civil engineer when I graduate and thought it might be an interesting choice. The thing is, I'm small and kind of weak. Not my heart or health, but muscle-wise. Would I get completely demolished by the training? Or is it in general bearable for the below-average guy like me?
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On March 06 2011 18:29 Nitrogen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2011 11:51 Kukaracha wrote:
I have a question: in the army, do you have many kids who enjoy war, or do most of the people prefer being in the army without actually fighting? i dunno really. a lot of people i talked to in basic were talking about killing someone and many of them said they didn't think they'd be able to handle it. i'm not sure why they joined the army though, lol.
The same people that are bragging about going out and killing people are probably some of the people that will "freeze" up when bullets actually start firing.
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haha Gas chamber was fun though. I took my mask off and ran straight out the chamber as soon as I took it off... haha good times. I was coughing and wheezing after it.
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i've heard of ppl throwing up literally 10 seconds after getting gassed. shit looks crazy. interesting how they got u taking mandarin classes
anyway i salute any men or women training/fighting for our country
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On March 07 2011 01:12 PetitCrabe wrote:
I have a question. I've thought about joining the army, maybe as a civil engineer when I graduate and thought it might be an interesting choice. The thing is, I'm small and kind of weak. Not my heart or health, but muscle-wise. Would I get completely demolished by the training? Or is it in general bearable for the below-average guy like me?
don't be too worried, i saw lots of fat people at basic. do you have good endurance? the only thing that really matters for basic is running, pushups and situps. just work on those and look up the army pt standards for your age group to see where you have to be to score well.
if you have a degree you could always join and go to officer candidate school, which means after basic and ocs (i think ocs is like 16 weeks long and basic is supposed to be 10) you get commissioned as a 2nd lieutenant.
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Holy hell this is a crazy coincidence. I leave for BCT at Ft. Jackson next week, my MOS is 35P (well, 35W for now) and head out to DLI around June. I'm hoping to get Korean, but it's a toss-up I hear. Either way, I'm very excited.
Will be sure to look you up when I get there!
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On March 08 2011 14:54 Whiladan wrote:...I leave for BCT at Ft. Jackson next week, my MOS is 35P (well, 35W for now) and head out to DLI around June...
Hello military
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Have you done any training at Ft. Fort Huachuca (Arizona)? My parents live near there.
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On March 06 2011 20:02 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2011 18:29 Nitrogen wrote:On March 06 2011 11:51 Kukaracha wrote:
I have a question: in the army, do you have many kids who enjoy war, or do most of the people prefer being in the army without actually fighting? i dunno really. a lot of people i talked to in basic were talking about killing someone and many of them said they didn't think they'd be able to handle it. i'm not sure why they joined the army though, lol. I fear that first person shooter games more and more are motivating people to join the military for the wrong reasons.
You really think a 17 or 18 year old kid is so dumb that he doesn't realize what he's getting into?? Maybe the gravity of entire situation... but I'm quite sure that volunteers are aware there's a potential to get your head blown off
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On March 08 2011 23:00 Hawk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2011 20:02 micronesia wrote:On March 06 2011 18:29 Nitrogen wrote:On March 06 2011 11:51 Kukaracha wrote:
I have a question: in the army, do you have many kids who enjoy war, or do most of the people prefer being in the army without actually fighting? i dunno really. a lot of people i talked to in basic were talking about killing someone and many of them said they didn't think they'd be able to handle it. i'm not sure why they joined the army though, lol. I fear that first person shooter games more and more are motivating people to join the military for the wrong reasons. You really think a 17 or 18 year old kid is so dumb that he doesn't realize what he's getting into?? Maybe the gravity of entire situation... but I'm quite sure that volunteers are aware there's a potential to get your head blown off
Yes. Psychology of teenagers is..... interesting. They often don't put thought into the aspects of a decision that you would expect them to.
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On March 09 2011 01:32 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 23:00 Hawk wrote:On March 06 2011 20:02 micronesia wrote:On March 06 2011 18:29 Nitrogen wrote:On March 06 2011 11:51 Kukaracha wrote:
I have a question: in the army, do you have many kids who enjoy war, or do most of the people prefer being in the army without actually fighting? i dunno really. a lot of people i talked to in basic were talking about killing someone and many of them said they didn't think they'd be able to handle it. i'm not sure why they joined the army though, lol. I fear that first person shooter games more and more are motivating people to join the military for the wrong reasons. You really think a 17 or 18 year old kid is so dumb that he doesn't realize what he's getting into?? Maybe the gravity of entire situation... but I'm quite sure that volunteers are aware there's a potential to get your head blown off Yes. Psychology of teenagers is..... interesting. They often don't put thought into the aspects of a decision that you would expect them to.
is there any research specifically about this?? it would be interesting.
like what, people have a romanticized view of war in a sense going in??
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Definitely tons of research for how teens think but no idea about my hypothesis.
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I can't tell if you're trolling or not, Hawk ;x Everybody who comes in has at least a degree of romanticism about war or even philosophy on 'how life should be lived,' otherwise they wouldn't join unless they had a death wish. Because nobody (at least that I've met, and I've been around for four years) actually believes in the legitimacy of the Iraq/Afghanistan campaigns
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Honestly, I figured it was more circumstances that draw a majority of people to the military. You're not seeing very many rich kids join up. It's mostly people who have no other options or are looking to get the help for college and keep their heads low while enlisted.
I know a lot of military people my age. I honestly can't think of very many that did it because war is badass, or they have a family tradition, or are 1940s era, pick up the gun and fight patriots.
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On March 09 2011 03:40 Hawk wrote:
Honestly, I figured it was more circumstances that draw a majority of people to the military. You're not seeing very many rich kids join up. It's mostly people who have no other options or are looking to get the help for college and keep their heads low while enlisted.
I know a lot of military people my age. I honestly can't think of very many that did it because war is badass, or they have a family tradition, or are 1940s era, pick up the gun and fight patriots.
Proud 4th generation Army enlistee here, nice to meet you. =) Joining through tradition is definitely less common these days, but it's a very good feeling to know you have an honorable legacy to uphold. Not to mention my father's challenge that I can't top his highest award adds to the spice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legion_of_merit).
However, I agree things like Call of Duty and war movies have misguided many young men to join. Several recruits in my Delayed Entry Program have talked to me about how excited they are for war. Most of them however are the type who think they are "Army Ranger high-speed HOOAH" material and then run a 19:45 on their 2-mile, so they will learn soon enough.
At the same time, the amount of people joining to start a career or get money for college far outweigh the people who think they're going to be air-dropping into Osama's lair with an M60 in each hand.
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Yeah, I'd imagine you're pretty rare haha. That's a pretty badass legacy to uphold though. I'm not made for the military and I certainly don't agree with all the dumb shit we send our soldiers into, but I've always found the military fascinating.
It's pretty crazy how the view of war through the eyes of the enlisted man has changed over the years. WWII guys sound like old has been athletes talking about the glory days. Korea still have that but not as much. Vietnam guys are almost universally angry and hate being reminded of their time there. Most younger vets seem to distance themselves from it too
Vet halls reflect it too. You almost never see any younger guys and only a few vietnam vets
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On March 08 2011 14:54 Whiladan wrote:
Holy hell this is a crazy coincidence. I leave for BCT at Ft. Jackson next week, my MOS is 35P (well, 35W for now) and head out to DLI around June. I'm hoping to get Korean, but it's a toss-up I hear. Either way, I'm very excited.
Will be sure to look you up when I get there!
haha good luck relaxin in jackson (not really, but be glad you don't have to go to the hell that is fort leonard wood in winter). you should get an email about halfway through basic telling you which language you got, if you actually manage to get a computer and check your email at basic (which i doubt). if you have any questions about dli/basic (dunno how accurate my answers about basic will be) just ask and ill be more than happy to help.
On March 08 2011 15:29 FuDDx wrote:
Have you done any training at Ft. Fort Huachuca (Arizona)? My parents live near there.
nope, but i hope to at some point. that's where the 35m (human intelligence collector) school is, which i want to attend some day. it's also the headquarters of military intelligence.
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