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awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
January 28 2011 04:14 GMT
#21
on a related note
i hate talent shows that have young children singing in them
sure they're very good and cute but honestly they're probably just as good as any 20 year old singer but progress because the judges don't want to hurt their feelings
it's absolutely ridiculous
Arckan
Profile Joined September 2010
243 Posts
January 28 2011 05:09 GMT
#22
I more or less agree with you, OP. If I don't know the person I don't really feel all that affected. Frequently the media will paint the background story of the person to try and make you feel like you "know" them, which is, in my cynical opinion, evidence that they're just trying to captivate your emotions.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
January 28 2011 05:37 GMT
#23
I have to agree with the OP. However, this same crap gets recycled through all these sorts of shows because the people that watch them love this sort of thing. Something about it bringing out the human nature in an otherwise normal character. However, I feel bad for the guy, but nothing beyond that because he is nothing to me, but a random guy. There are hundreds of thousands of people that are probably going through worse and because they're not on TV we don't know or care.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
January 28 2011 09:27 GMT
#24
I used to care, i wasn't always a cynic, but thanks to lovely media and their bombardment of various stories, tragic and sad, i now do not give a shit about many of those stories anymore. Sure i feel some pity and sympathy but that just goes away quickly and i just go on with my life. Am i a sociopath? Doubt it, i don't manipulate people for personal gain and i do have emotions and i still feel bad if i cheat/hurt someone or there is a touching blog on TL (but not on the media, i just turn off).
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 09:42:25
January 28 2011 09:40 GMT
#25
http://www.newyorker.com/talk/2011/01/17/110117ta_talk_schulman

nice little article on the dark corollary to this: schadenfreude (when you delight rather than sob)

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Through it all, ticket sales have soared, which raises an uncomfortable question: are people paying to see calamity? At a preview last Tuesday, members of the audience seemed conflicted. Outside the theatre, Alaina Schwartz, aged twelve, who had come from Long Island with her family, was asked if she hoped to see someone fall. “Yes! Yes!” she said. “I’m weird about that stuff. Like, there was a roller coaster and it kind of fell backwards, and I was kind of wishing that I was on that roller coaster at the time that it fell.” Her father, Steven, looked concerned.

“I hope somebody falls but they’re O.K.,” her sister Alexa, fourteen, said.

A third sister, Stephanie, nine, objected: “If something goes wrong, that’s bad luck for us!”

In the lobby, Allie Bauer, a Yale junior, said, “There’s a certain allure to this being a very dangerous performance.”

“You’re more evil than I am,” her classmate Will Moritz said, eating a Twizzler. After thinking it over, he added, “If I could see someone fall from the rafters but not go to the hospital—just magically get up—then I’d be down.” (He’s majoring in psychology.)

Matt Clements, a cameraman from midtown, had come to the show with his girlfriend. “She wants to see blood,” he explained.

The girlfriend, a lawyer named Carol Barbeiro, didn’t deny it. “It’s like Formula One,” she reasoned. “You want to see the car crash.” She added, “We like to go to Rockefeller Center to watch the ice-skaters fall.”

Possibly to Barbeiro’s dismay, the show went off that night without a hitch. (To say nothing of its dramaturgical flaws: in an early review, a Bloomberg critic called it “an unfocused hodge-podge of storytelling, myth-making and spectacle that comes up short in every department.”) During the flying sequences, the occupant of seat E114 wasn’t even tempted to put on the hard hat he had packed in case of emergency. But he was nevertheless troubled. What did the bloodlust of his fellow-theatregoers say about humanity?

“It sounds like morbid curiosity,” John Portmann, the author of “When Bad Things Happen to Other People,” said the following day. In his book, he argues that Schadenfreude can be socially useful when applied to the sinful. “St. Thomas Aquinas, writing more than seven hundred years ago, asked, ‘Will the people in Heaven get to see the people in Hell, and what should their attitude be?’ He says yes, the sainted will be able to laugh and jeer at the damned, but the primary reason is that they have proof of God’s justice.

“Remember that pride is the worst of the seven deadly sins,” Portmann went on. “Maybe what people are saying is ‘I think that Broadway is getting way out of control and I’m happy to see failure, so I’m willing to see actors get hurt. Then the producers will see that they are walking down a path that I didn’t endorse.’ ”

John Munder Ross, a psychologist and the author of “The Sadomasochism of Everyday Life,” said that we all have an unconscious desire to experience pain vicariously, and that theatregoing can ritualize these tendencies. “If it’s collective, it attenuates the individual guilt.”
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Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 12:23:00
January 28 2011 12:16 GMT
#26
On January 28 2011 12:27 Sc1pio wrote:
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On January 28 2011 12:25 Ferrose wrote:
On January 28 2011 12:22 Sc1pio wrote:
This post actually almost offends me.

The dude proposed to his fiance, and then she got into an accident. Instead of ditching her, he honors his commitment and takes care of her despite her state, and the conclusion you draw is "well maybe she might be a bitch"? Seriously? If he stayed, she was obviously fucking worth it. Who gives a shit if it's an attempt to drive emotions in viewers because a) his voice is good enough anyway and b) he fucking deserves every ounce of empathy derived from this.

In conclusion, you're being way too cynical and come off kind of assholish (not a word, I know) for it. Chill out, bro.

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YES I MAD


That's what I'm trying to say. If the guy was my friend who I had known for a long time, I would feel terrible and do everything I could to help him. But to me, he's just some random guy. Why should I care?


I hate to resort to personal attacks, but you're pretty much a textbook sociopath.

Can you explain to me how the OP displays any of the following? You however is a textbook case for the typical ignorant forum poster who argues without bothering with facts at all.
A) There is a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring for as long as either childhood, or in the case of many who are influenced by environmental factors, around age 15, as indicated by three or more of the following:
1. failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest;
2. deceitfulness, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure;
3. impulsivity or failure to plan ahead;
4. irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults;
5. reckless disregard for safety of self or others;
6. consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations;
7. lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another;
B) The individual is at least 18 years of age.
C) There is evidence of Conduct Disorder with onset before age 15 years.
D) The occurrence of antisocial behavior is not exclusively during the course of Schizophrenia or a Manic Episode.


On January 28 2011 13:14 awu25 wrote:
on a related note
i hate talent shows that have young children singing in them
sure they're very good and cute but honestly they're probably just as good as any 20 year old singer but progress because the judges don't want to hurt their feelings
it's absolutely ridiculous

I also never liked animal shows, I mean I don't care what they can get the animals to do for food, it is much more interesting to see what you can make humans do for money.
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
January 28 2011 13:25 GMT
#27
I've already posted this on TL before but...



Watch the RSA presentation on how empathy has affected human civilization.
Horrde
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada302 Posts
January 28 2011 14:49 GMT
#28
Rofl, don't forget that Peter Potts guy from the british idol one too. It's just so sad knowing that for the longest time, some dishwasher in the back of a kitchen had a voice that was fit for opera. Cry me a river.

Tack on a sad face, maybe play it off like the guy has no self-esteem or confidence in life, and then play a 15 second clip of his mildly entertaining performance. Of course, this is all so emotional, so we have to see the tears from those audience members who are just overwhelmed with the hidden talent that stands hunched over before them. Next thing you know, he's the water cooler main topic at work the next day. Don't be deceived, this is actually just a giant rant about my co-workers.
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