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Defending Rage

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supernova
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada148 Posts
August 02 2010 23:29 GMT
#1
When I watch a StarCraft match, I usually steer clear of games that include any amount of rage or bad-mannered play, comments, etc that it may contain. And as a StarCraft fan, I usually watch all the games that HD StarCraft casts. He is one of the best with Husky, Day9 and NukeTheStars being some of my other favourites but that's beside the point. Watching a recent HD video saw a little known player under the moniker of Masq and a very well-known player in Idra. Now as a player that doesn't like rage-filled rants, this video set off an early red flag. I had a tough descion to make. On one hand, I was craving some StarCraft 2 multiplayer action with one of the best in the game and on the other hand, the infamous Idra RAGE! I watched the video. The following may be disturbing to some viewers:

It was a pretty standard game. Idra could have won and Masq could have won at any point and it all came down to two key plays (or rather, misplays).

Here, watch the video and see for yourself:


So did you catch it? The mistakes you may have seen but that isn't what stands out in your mind does it? Its the infamous IDRA RAGE! I will put the following exchange between Idra and Masq in a spoiler tag below but please watch the video first.

+ Show Spoiler +
Idra: The reason there are no zerg on this server
Idra: is cuz fags like you do builds like this
Masq: well
Masq: im honored
Masq: to receive idra rage
Idra: and an undeserved win
Idra: congrats


I don't know about you but I nearly crapped my pants in laughter reading that oh-so-friendly banter between Idra and his opponent. Am I mad that it happened? There is a reason I named this topic "Defending Rage". Now I don't rage and if I do, I don't do it in a chat. But Idra obviously has different views than me so we'll move on.

Some people say that Idra is immature for doing something like this and others say it's both "awesome" and "funny" and I'd have to agree with the latter in this paticular game. But one thing I don't see in Idra's smacktalk is the belittling of his opponent. He never said it was a stupid build, he was just frustrated with it and didn't expect it. That was the first mistake he made in the game. And seeing Idra play, he doesn't make too many.

On to the second mistake that he made which is blatanly obvious as HD comments on it 5 minutes into the video.

Why Idra? Why didn't you cancel that Hatch? Oh, you could have had that game won. Instead, a rare mistake pertaining to micro and Idra was on his way to putting a tally in the loss column.

But back to my point. From what I read, what I interpret in Idra's comments is that he isn't mad at his opponent; he's mad at himself. He was mighty pissed when he knew about the build but it came to late. He didn't get that Overlord scout and that cost him. He didn't cancel a dying Hatchery which cost him 300 minerals. He was pointing out all the mistakes that he made. And think about this; if Idra DID have that scouting advantage with the Overlord, he may have just won that game or saved it even. And in an insane moment in time, I actually have to agree with Idra in saying that Masq really didn't deserve that win largely due to some miscues by one of the best. Still, it was funny as hell to see a watered-down verison of infamous IDRA RAGE! And for that, I'm glad I clicked the on the video.

Poll: What do you think of Rage?

I love it - it's even funnier when Idra does it! (42)
 
55%

I'm not okay with it - I never rage and expect a pro like Idra to keep his emotions in check. (16)
 
21%

I'm okay with it - I rage occasionally but keep my temper in check. (11)
 
14%

I hate it - I would never rage an opponent no matter what the outcome was! (8)
 
10%

77 total votes

Your vote: What do you think of Rage?

(Vote): I love it - it's even funnier when Idra does it!
(Vote): I'm okay with it - I rage occasionally but keep my temper in check.
(Vote): I'm not okay with it - I never rage and expect a pro like Idra to keep his emotions in check.
(Vote): I hate it - I would never rage an opponent no matter what the outcome was!



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Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
August 02 2010 23:32 GMT
#2
It doesn't matter who you're actually mad at... what you say is going to be interpreted literally -I'm glad that rage has become more of a joke these days... Masq takes it pretty well.
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Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
August 02 2010 23:34 GMT
#3
another one of these threads, it's incredible. a social phenomenon is happening right before our eyes, the bandwagon.
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 02 2010 23:39 GMT
#4
On August 03 2010 08:29 supernova wrote:

It was a pretty standard game. Idra could have won and Masq could have won at any point and it all came down to two key plays (or rather, misplays).



sounds like a pretty standard game to me alright
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VictorW
Profile Joined May 2009
United States157 Posts
August 02 2010 23:40 GMT
#5
But one thing I don't see in Idra's smacktalk is the belittling of his opponent.


What about "fags like you" and "undeserved win"?
Process is more important than the result
ClanOverdosed
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
691 Posts
August 02 2010 23:45 GMT
#6
On August 03 2010 08:40 VictorW wrote:
Show nested quote +
But one thing I don't see in Idra's smacktalk is the belittling of his opponent.


What about "fags like you" and "undeserved win"?


Yeah thats what I was thinking...

"And in an insane moment in time, I actually have to agree with Idra in saying that Masq really didn't deserve that win largely due to some miscues by one of the best." Even if this is true, Masq still doesn't deserve to be called a fag.
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Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
August 02 2010 23:51 GMT
#7
I don't rage at all, but I enjoy watching IdrA do it. So I just voted for the "I love it" option. Also, you can't really Overlord scout versus Terran early game. The Overlords normally get sniped before you can see anything and because it is early game, the Overlord snipe hurts a lot more than it should.
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
August 03 2010 00:22 GMT
#8
Rage is part of being human man! To some people, it's just an outlet for releasing frustration. Sometimes I rage and make a remark to my opponent (although nothing like cussing at people), so I understand where Idra comes from. I think the biggest mistake people make when they condemn Idra's rage is that they think it's personal, when it's really not (99% of the time). I'm not saying some of the things Idra says are acceptable, but cut the guy some slack
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
August 03 2010 00:41 GMT
#9
it looked to me that Masq a moved into Idras Nat.
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SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
August 03 2010 00:45 GMT
#10
idra got owned.
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reza
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada213 Posts
August 03 2010 01:05 GMT
#11
too many 'mannered' players ..some trash talking and bm is definately needed as another source of entertainment
Kashll
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1117 Posts
August 03 2010 01:22 GMT
#12
The main thing I noticed from this thread is that HDStarcraft has no fucking idea what he is talking about. My first time watching any of his commentary. I seriously don't understand how these guys are so popular. I think it's great that many new players are so interested in watching competitive starcraft, but I wish they would just watch day9.
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley
reza
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada213 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 01:45:27
August 03 2010 01:23 GMT
#13
On August 03 2010 10:22 Kashll wrote:
The main thing I noticed from this thread is that HDStarcraft has no fucking idea what he is talking about. My first time watching any of his commentary. I seriously don't understand how these guys are so popular. I think it's great that many new players are so interested in watching competitive starcraft, but I wish they would just watch day9.


god i can't fucking stand HD. I always get a feeling that hes in it for the money and not for the passion like day9. i could sense the 'fakeness'
tiffany
Profile Joined November 2003
3664 Posts
August 03 2010 05:10 GMT
#14
i like rage. he's a p cool guy
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
August 03 2010 09:42 GMT
#15
On August 03 2010 14:10 tiffany wrote:
i like rage. he's a p cool guy

yeah, you might even say he's chill
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T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
August 03 2010 10:18 GMT
#16
lol. If masq makes himself a name in the us scene he will forever be known as "that guy that got raged on by idra". XD i hope we see more of him
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
August 03 2010 12:07 GMT
#17
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rage
getting annoyed at newbies flipping coins, leaving without typing 2 meaningless letters, is not rage. just cuz 2 retards need to say stuff to draw attention away from their lack of knowledge does not mean its accurate.
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