• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 12:19
CET 18:19
KST 02:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13
StarCraft 2
General
Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4) BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win SC2 Proleague Discontinued; SKT, KT, SGK, CJ disband
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest RSL Revival: Season 3 Tenacious Turtle Tussle
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Which season is the best in ASL? [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread The Perfect Game Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread The Big Programming Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Esports Earnings: Bigger Pri…
TrAiDoS
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1636 users

[Rap] Music appreciation - Page 2

Blogs > stiga
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
stiga
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States377 Posts
June 29 2010 19:25 GMT
#21
On June 30 2010 04:11 mucker wrote:
I don't really get into this style of hiphop but I do recommend this mixtape:
http://sub.maddecent.com/freegucci/
Guys like diplo and flying lotus remixing gucci. Interesting for both mainstream and underground fans.


yeah i already got the tape, i think a few songs are better than the original.
Dope Boys, and No No No are definatly better in the diplo
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
June 29 2010 19:25 GMT
#22
On June 30 2010 03:49 OpRaider wrote:
I absolutely HATE mainstream Rap. Try rapping about something other than A)fucking bitches B)weed/drugs C)money and D) killing.

edit* if your interested in good rap. Try eminem or Tupac. They rap from experience, write their own songs. and don't fuck up their voices with robots and computers.

i like how you hate those aspects of mainstream music but then suggest tupac because we all know he wasn't about gangster rap at all.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
JinNJuice
Profile Joined June 2010
United States255 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 19:28:42
June 29 2010 19:27 GMT
#23
First off, generalizations such as "MAINSTREAM RAP SUCKS" is just plain ignorant. There are plenty of mainstream rappers who are extremely talented, such as Eminem and Lupe Fiasco (not as mainstream but still had some mainstream success). However I personally can't stand Gucci Mane. His beats sound like it was done by a 5 year old, his lyrics are subpar, and his flow is just terrible. And you can barely understand him. Plus he must say "Gucci" or some stupid noise like "BURR" five times every song. It's just sad what can be popular nowadays. Seriously, give me one of those beats and I'll rap to it and be popular.

And lol

On June 30 2010 03:49 OpRaider wrote:
I absolutely HATE mainstream Rap. Try rapping about something other than A)fucking bitches B)weed/drugs C)money and D) killing.

edit* if your interested in good rap. Try eminem or Tupac. They rap from experience, write their own songs. and don't fuck up their voices with robots and computers.


Eminem is the definition of mainstream rap.
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
June 29 2010 19:27 GMT
#24
On June 30 2010 04:25 mahnini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2010 03:49 OpRaider wrote:
I absolutely HATE mainstream Rap. Try rapping about something other than A)fucking bitches B)weed/drugs C)money and D) killing.

edit* if your interested in good rap. Try eminem or Tupac. They rap from experience, write their own songs. and don't fuck up their voices with robots and computers.

i like how you hate those aspects of mainstream music but then suggest tupac because we all know he wasn't about gangster rap at all.



"But he was more than that" kind of post is about to follow

*Link to Changes Youtube Video*
Each day gets better : )
JinNJuice
Profile Joined June 2010
United States255 Posts
June 29 2010 19:30 GMT
#25
Anyone remember this song?



This just sums up everything wrong with the rap game, even if it's a few years old.
stiga
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States377 Posts
June 29 2010 19:34 GMT
#26
On June 30 2010 04:27 JinNJuice wrote:
However I personally can't stand Gucci Mane. His beats sound like it was done by a 5 year old, his lyrics are subpar, and his flow is just terrible. And you can barely understand him. Plus he must say "Gucci" or some stupid noise like "BURR" five times every song. It's just sad what can be popular nowadays. Seriously, give me one of those beats and I'll rap to it and be popular.



I felt the exact same way about him. But after playing him alot and looking up his lyrics, you start to understand him more. Give him another chance unlesss youve heard enough :-/ His speech impediment makes him good because he makes some shit sound like it rhymes when it realy doesnt haha, plus its good for a laugh...But he has good songs.
JinNJuice
Profile Joined June 2010
United States255 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 19:40:57
June 29 2010 19:37 GMT
#27
On June 30 2010 04:34 stiga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2010 04:27 JinNJuice wrote:
However I personally can't stand Gucci Mane. His beats sound like it was done by a 5 year old, his lyrics are subpar, and his flow is just terrible. And you can barely understand him. Plus he must say "Gucci" or some stupid noise like "BURR" five times every song. It's just sad what can be popular nowadays. Seriously, give me one of those beats and I'll rap to it and be popular.



I felt the exact same way about him. But after playing him alot and looking up his lyrics, you start to understand him more. Give him another chance unlesss youve heard enough :-/ His speech impediment makes him good because he makes some shit sound like it rhymes when it realy doesnt haha, plus its good for a laugh...But he has good songs.


I can see your point, and I have listened to alot of his songs. He just...annoys me. Seriously "Lemonade" makes me want to go kill baby kittens, it's THAT annoying. Seriously count how many times he says burr in that song. Makes me rage so hard. Also his lyrics on Wasted make zero sense. Yeah...I'm just not a fan .

edit: on the opposite side of the spectrum, listen to Eminem's verse on No Love on his new album. Seriously, that is the greatest verse of all time. No exaggeration, Eminem blew my mind on that song.
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
June 29 2010 19:37 GMT
#28
You listen to anything a lot and you will get into it.
Each day gets better : )
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
June 29 2010 19:54 GMT
#29
On June 30 2010 04:27 JinNJuice wrote:
First off, generalizations such as "MAINSTREAM RAP SUCKS" is just plain ignorant. There are plenty of mainstream rappers who are extremely talented, such as Eminem and Lupe Fiasco (not as mainstream but still had some mainstream success). However I personally can't stand Gucci Mane. His beats sound like it was done by a 5 year old, his lyrics are subpar, and his flow is just terrible. And you can barely understand him. Plus he must say "Gucci" or some stupid noise like "BURR" five times every song. It's just sad what can be popular nowadays. Seriously, give me one of those beats and I'll rap to it and be popular.

And lol

Show nested quote +
On June 30 2010 03:49 OpRaider wrote:
I absolutely HATE mainstream Rap. Try rapping about something other than A)fucking bitches B)weed/drugs C)money and D) killing.

edit* if your interested in good rap. Try eminem or Tupac. They rap from experience, write their own songs. and don't fuck up their voices with robots and computers.


Eminem is the definition of mainstream rap.

Eminem was mainstream 10 years ago. His music was definitely mainstream around 1999-2001 but by 2004 definitely not. Popularity, national/international media appearances, radio play, music videos on MTV, etc, does not automatically mean mainstream. I can't imagine being mainstream without that stuff but it's possible to have that stuff and not be mainstream. As OpRaider said, mainstream rap has been fucking bitches making money and being violent. Em's song W.T.P. from Recovery is pretty damn anti-mainstream. His formula has always been outside of what the mainstream is but when Slim Shady LP first hit, he was so popular and powerful that his style broke into the mainstream. He maintained through Marshall Mathers LP but by Eminem Show mainstream rap had already taken quite a different direction from Eminem.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
JinNJuice
Profile Joined June 2010
United States255 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 20:11:34
June 29 2010 20:09 GMT
#30
On June 30 2010 04:54 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2010 04:27 JinNJuice wrote:
First off, generalizations such as "MAINSTREAM RAP SUCKS" is just plain ignorant. There are plenty of mainstream rappers who are extremely talented, such as Eminem and Lupe Fiasco (not as mainstream but still had some mainstream success). However I personally can't stand Gucci Mane. His beats sound like it was done by a 5 year old, his lyrics are subpar, and his flow is just terrible. And you can barely understand him. Plus he must say "Gucci" or some stupid noise like "BURR" five times every song. It's just sad what can be popular nowadays. Seriously, give me one of those beats and I'll rap to it and be popular.

And lol

On June 30 2010 03:49 OpRaider wrote:
I absolutely HATE mainstream Rap. Try rapping about something other than A)fucking bitches B)weed/drugs C)money and D) killing.

edit* if your interested in good rap. Try eminem or Tupac. They rap from experience, write their own songs. and don't fuck up their voices with robots and computers.


Eminem is the definition of mainstream rap.

Eminem was mainstream 10 years ago. His music was definitely mainstream around 1999-2001 but by 2004 definitely not. Popularity, national/international media appearances, radio play, music videos on MTV, etc, does not automatically mean mainstream. I can't imagine being mainstream without that stuff but it's possible to have that stuff and not be mainstream. As OpRaider said, mainstream rap has been fucking bitches making money and being violent. Em's song W.T.P. from Recovery is pretty damn anti-mainstream. His formula has always been outside of what the mainstream is but when Slim Shady LP first hit, he was so popular and powerful that his style broke into the mainstream. He maintained through Marshall Mathers LP but by Eminem Show mainstream rap had already taken quite a different direction from Eminem.


Yeah I do agree with you 100%. I just thought it was funny to HATE mainstream rap, and then suggest eminem and tupac. I feel that Eminem is simply mainstream because his influence is so large that his music can be related to the majority of hip hop fans. I feel that Eminem brought back what mainstream used to be from the 80's and 90's, with great hip hop like the Chronic (Dr. Dre obv), Public Enemy, and NWA. Mainstream back then and mainstream now are like 180 degree opposites.

What I see now is that artists change THEIR music in order to BECOME mainstream. Eminem just did what he does best, and the mainstream listeners followed him.
Diuqil
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States307 Posts
June 29 2010 21:53 GMT
#31
Though I've heard Z-ro before, I've just heard his older stuff and his "Crack" album. I actually think "Heroin" is better then all his other albums.

Oh yeah, every one else you listed sucks in my opinion.

Go listen to some Jedi Mind Tricks, Cormega, AZ, and there are so many more that I can list but I wont.
POWDERR
Profile Joined January 2019
3 Posts
January 05 2019 00:42 GMT
#32
--- Nuked ---
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
January 05 2019 08:23 GMT
#33
Z-Ro and Trae are legit. Boosie and Gucci aren't really my taste... more like vibe music and I'm not really about that. But I think you'd like A$AP if you don't already. Here are some songs you might like:

+ Show Spoiler +












On June 30 2010 04:30 JinNJuice wrote:
Anyone remember this song?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SBN_ikibtg

This just sums up everything wrong with the rap game, even if it's a few years old.


Naw naw naw, here's what wrong with the rap game:

(This list turned out to be way longer than I originally intended, but I thought it was really funny. Also, 100% disrespect to all of these 'artists'. Quit the rap game forever.)




































"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
StarCraft2.fi
17:00
15V Cup / Groups Day 3
starcraft2fi 70
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
LamboSC2 458
Fuzer 335
gerald23 76
BRAT_OK 75
Livibee 42
SpeCial 40
MindelVK 15
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3322
Shuttle 1158
Mini 748
EffOrt 475
Larva 343
Rush 260
Hyun 98
hero 95
Dewaltoss 80
Aegong 23
[ Show more ]
Rock 23
scan(afreeca) 21
soO 18
Dota 2
Gorgc5757
qojqva4191
Dendi1149
syndereN388
Counter-Strike
zeus353
chrisJcsgo50
kRYSTAL_13
Other Games
DeMusliM1996
hiko828
FrodaN742
Hui .162
KnowMe89
QueenE84
Trikslyr50
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 27
• Reevou 6
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix7
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV591
League of Legends
• TFBlade1158
Other Games
• Shiphtur0
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
6h 41m
The PondCast
16h 41m
OSC
22h 41m
Demi vs Mixu
Nicoract vs TBD
Babymarine vs MindelVK
ForJumy vs TBD
Shameless vs Percival
Replay Cast
1d 6h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV 2025
2 days
SC Evo League
2 days
BSL 21
3 days
Sziky vs OyAji
Gypsy vs eOnzErG
OSC
3 days
Solar vs Creator
ByuN vs Gerald
Percival vs Babymarine
Moja vs Krystianer
EnDerr vs ForJumy
sebesdes vs Nicoract
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV 2025
3 days
OSC
3 days
BSL 21
4 days
Bonyth vs StRyKeR
Tarson vs Dandy
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
StarCraft2.fi
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV 2025
5 days
StarCraft2.fi
5 days
PiGosaur Monday
6 days
StarCraft2.fi
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-30
RSL Revival: Season 3
Light HT

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
Slon Tour Season 2
Acropolis #4 - TS3
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
Kuram Kup
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.