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DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-06 02:06:17
November 06 2007 01:53 GMT
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OSL Ro16 Week 5
2 November 2007


Results
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GGPlay > Up @ Blue Storm
July > Hwasin @ Fantasy II
Jaedong < Stork @ Persona
Savior < Flash @ Katrina

In stark contrast to last week, this week’s OSL games contained a lot of play that I can only describe as unfortunate. The outcome of all but one of the games rested upon a single dumb decision, which made for a frustrating viewing experience.

Up vs. GGPlay was reminiscent of last week’s game between Nada and Jaedong. Up’s opening allowed him to kill GGPlay’s initial overlord and stop him from taking his natural expansion. But instead of just massing a standard army of marines and medics, Up decided that, in a situation where GGPlay had no option but to try and break containment with zerglings, making a proxy factory and a starport was the best idea. Unsurprisingly, GGPlay crushed Up’s small containing force and stormed his base for the win.

I could not have been more disappointed with Hwasin vs. July. Hwasin, having scouted only four zerglings, moved out with his initial five marines in an effort to force additional defense from July. But July, assuming that Hwasin would try to expand as quickly as possible, made upwards of 12 zerglings. These zerglings made short work of Hwasin’s marine force. A predictable outcome followed. Hwasin’s low unit count forced him to delay his tank push, which was made even worse by the fact that July’s zerglings had scouted the factory. Even with July’s sub-par zergling and mutalisk control, he coasted to an easy victory over a crippled Hwasin. Having lost this game, Hwasin, arguably one of the strongest players in the game today, faces elimination from the OSL unless Light defeats Iris this coming week.

There's no doubt that Stork vs. Jaedong was the game of the night. Even though Stork never lost the lead, the game’s constant action had me wondering if "this next attack" from Jaedong would be the one to even things up; he was relentless in his assault. Stork’s fantastic storms, however, prevented Jaedong from ever gaining control of the center of the map. As a result, Stork was able to expand at will, and he eventually outlasted Jaedong’s faltering economy.

Against Savior, Flash continued his trend of being either cheesy or boring. This game, he chose boring. While Savior continually attempted to push the pace of the game, Flash seemed perfectly content to sit in his base, mass-producing marines and medics and building somewhere in the realm of 12 missile turrets. Looking at Savior’s face after the game, it was pretty obvious that even he was glad it was over.

Credit for these videos goes, as always, to someone other than me.
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Up vs. GGPlay @ Blue Storm
July vs. Hwasin @ Fantasy II
Jaedong vs. Stork @ Persona
Flash vs. Savior @ Katrina

As it’s the final week of the OSL group stage, many of next week’s games are decisive. Will Bisu secure his spot in the single-elimination tournament, or will the newcomer Shudder secure his own spot with an upset win? Will Light breathe new life into Hwasin with a win over Iris, or will both advance with 2-1 records? Will either Nada or DarkElf practice at all for their inconsequential game? And finally, will Frozean shock the world by securing a three-way tie at 2-1 with a win over Rock?

Predictions
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Short of a cheese build, there’s just no way Shudder will take down Bisu on Blue Storm. I can only hope that Bisu has the good sense to scout early and often.

As smart a player as Light is, I’ve never liked his TvT. It’s picked up as of late, however, with wins over strong players like Hwasin, Sea, Firebathero, Boxer, and Canata. Iris is the favorite to take this game, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see Light pull out the win on a slow-paced map like Fantasy II.

I don’t care about DarkElf and Nada’s game on Persona, and neither should you. With both players already eliminated from the OSL, this game is purely for pride. Still, DarkElf is my pick to win; his less strenuous Proleague schedule allows him more time to practice, to say nothing of Nada’s massive slump as of late (2-9 since his 0-2 WCG loss to Sea).

Frozean and Rock’s game on Katrina is actually the game about which I’m most excited. With a victory, Frozean could add an exclamation point to my pre-OSL statement that Rock would accomplish nothing this OSL while at the same time keeping himself in the running for advancement to the single-elimination tournament. Doubly glorious is the possibility that Frozean could keep Flash from advancing. Go Frozean!
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
November 06 2007 02:37 GMT
#2
I actually liked Flash's play. Even if "boring", it was solid - very few, if any, holes to exploit. Granted, he lost a few vessels carelessly; but overall he played quite well.

The dropship finish was a nice touch, I thought.
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Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
November 06 2007 02:41 GMT
#3
What is everyone's opinion on Katrina in terms of zvt balacne? I haven't seen the game between savior and flash yet but as of last weekend, I have lost 4 consecutive games on Katrina playing terran opponents.

It could very well be my skill, but I found it incredibly hard to beat the terrans who kept blocking their ramp then taking the natural.
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
November 06 2007 03:31 GMT
#4
Nice report as always DJ. I can't be as harsh on Flash as you are though, because I love to see Savior lose.

I'm also going to have to cheer twice as hard as normal for Rock so I can cancel out your bad vibes. Next weeks games should be fun.
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Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
November 06 2007 04:20 GMT
#5
Anybody who beats savior can't sink down into the range of boring. But, they should get their throat slit for even attacking his units.
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Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
November 06 2007 04:59 GMT
#6
Nice, well written!

What happens exactly in a three way tie, anyhow?

Stork vs Jaedong was pretty crazy, indeed.... on about a dozen occasions it looked like Stork was about to fold, being forced back to his nat at one point, but Stork's storms are the best around.
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NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7229 Posts
November 06 2007 05:07 GMT
#7
On November 06 2007 11:41 Titusmaster6 wrote:
What is everyone's opinion on Katrina in terms of zvt balacne? I haven't seen the game between savior and flash yet but as of last weekend, I have lost 4 consecutive games on Katrina playing terran opponents.

It could very well be my skill, but I found it incredibly hard to beat the terrans who kept blocking their ramp then taking the natural.


My experience is that Katrina is P>T>Z, and is a steaming pile of shit.
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DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
November 06 2007 05:49 GMT
#8
On November 06 2007 13:59 f10esqftw wrote:
What happens exactly in a three way tie, anyhow?

They play a triplet of games as many times as is necessary to declare a decisive winner. Basically, a player needs to win two games in a row.
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
November 06 2007 06:00 GMT
#9
Nice read.

I gotta say JaeDong vs Stork is proabably like one of the best ZvP matches ever played. A little shame JaeDong didn't tech to Hive just to get crack upgrade or expand a little more.
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Locke.
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Israel562 Posts
November 06 2007 06:16 GMT
#10
is savior out?
CustomXSpunjah
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1093 Posts
November 06 2007 07:02 GMT
#11
haha there will always be complainers about flash's play being "boring" or "cheesy" but guess what- he just beat your Savior and thats all that matters. Great job on flash's part imo
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Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
November 06 2007 07:36 GMT
#12
DJetter i fucking love your writing.

you sir, are brilliant

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Profile Joined August 2007
Canada276 Posts
November 06 2007 08:14 GMT
#13
On November 06 2007 15:16 Locke. wrote:
is savior out?


savior is in
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
November 06 2007 08:20 GMT
#14
I really loved the Jaedong versus Stork match. despite neither being an expert in their respective ZvP/PVZ, they made for one hell of an enjoyable match.
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pallokim
Profile Joined August 2007
United States22 Posts
November 06 2007 15:04 GMT
#15
sAviOr didn't play well at all. You think he'd throw the game to get a chance to face Stork over Iris or Hwasin?
Diggity
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States806 Posts
November 06 2007 16:21 GMT
#16
What is everyone's opinion on Katrina in terms of zvt balacne? I haven't seen the game between savior and flash yet but as of last weekend, I have lost 4 consecutive games on Katrina playing terran opponents.

It could very well be my skill, but I found it incredibly hard to beat the terrans who kept blocking their ramp then taking the natural.


I pretty much went into a tirade on this map on my latest commentary of savior v flash.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
November 06 2007 16:44 GMT
#17
Eh
Flash played great, almost no mistakes on that game, I like savior but you gotta give this to flash
Jaedong vs Stork was the best ZvP/PvZ this season
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
November 06 2007 17:39 GMT
#18
katrina is a horrible, horrible map
dont know about this game in particular
but absolutely horrible map
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Ogre757
Profile Joined November 2007
United States35 Posts
November 06 2007 18:34 GMT
#19
Yeah, I'm no fan of Katrina either.


Awesome review/write-up. Although I think you're being a bit too critical. I think everyone played very well, maybe not Up so much though, lol. And Stork/Jaedong was a very, very good match.
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
November 06 2007 19:10 GMT
#20
Rock is the future of OSL Protoss.
He is so gonna do something. SOMETHING.

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