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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 18 2013 15:01 GMT
#333
/replacement
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 23 2013 19:39 GMT
#2325
Hey guys, just spotted the PM saying I'm in the game. Reading 117 pages now, I'll be back in a few hours
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 23 2013 22:14 GMT
#2425
First off, a 5/6 vote lynch in a 30 player game is pretty terrible. We need to be a lot more consolidated in our lynches or we'll be torn apart later on. I know there was some confusion over the deadline but that's still only a 2 hour difference.

I've tried to skim through the thread and as many relevant filters as possible, but there's a massive amount of reading to do. However I noticed that yamato has an awful lot of filler and not much actual content. Stuff like this:

On September 23 2013 11:40 yamato77 wrote:
Vote shenanigans make FT likely mafia


On September 23 2013 11:43 yamato77 wrote:
VE is also likely mafia


On September 23 2013 11:45 yamato77 wrote:
geript might also be mafia


And this:
On September 23 2013 08:25 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 08:24 ObviousOne wrote:
On September 23 2013 08:23 yamato77 wrote:
On September 23 2013 08:12 ObviousOne wrote:
On September 23 2013 08:11 yamato77 wrote:
On September 23 2013 08:08 ObviousOne wrote:
Yeah let's do Mocsta.

Why?

The reasons you came up with are not lining up for me.

Because he's disruptive and a jerk and It will make me feel good.

Can you expand this reasoning to include specific references?

No thanks. I'm good.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


On September 23 2013 08:36 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 08:35 Koshi wrote:
On September 23 2013 08:34 yamato77 wrote:
On September 23 2013 08:31 Koshi wrote:
On September 23 2013 08:29 yamato77 wrote:
On September 23 2013 08:27 Koshi wrote:
On September 23 2013 08:02 yamato77 wrote:
On September 23 2013 08:01 Koshi wrote:
@yamato77: Well, his first post was a really easy way for scum to enter the thread. Say some stuff about himself mainly that his reads are bad and that you shouldn't pay too much attention to him. Ending with being open for questions if there are any.

@rayn: WoS made a big ass post about secret taktics and it reminded me of his sekret tactics in Persona.

@marv: I am here, reading everything. I don't know what to do.

@JAT: Yes, I play different this time. I think it is because it is a big game now. I don't remember what I did right in Aperture that I am not doing now, probably activity.

Read through his vote on LoneMeow and give me your honest interpretation.

On September 23 2013 04:31 Chairman Ray wrote:
On September 23 2013 04:14 LoneMeow wrote:
I can't get a scum read on anyone but Umasi, and I'm notoriously biased against him so that's almost guaranteed to be wrong. I'll vote him anyway since I have to vote someone. Not sure I'll wake up for the deadline but I'll try.

Chairman Ray is lynchbait like in my last newbie, so probably town. IMHO his "last hour shenigans" plan is terrible, though.

##Vote: Umasi

Here for a while if you want to ask me something.


Why would you say that voting Umasi is a terrible idea, yet vote him anyways? It seems to me like you are scum trying to get achieve a town mislynch D1, but unable to muster up any strong cases on anybody. So instead of posting a weak case against them and have everyone call you out on it, you beat us to the punch by telling us your case is poor to begin with. If you are really town, then a town who intentionally makes a bad vote is still hurting town.

##Vote: LoneMeow

I actually have no problem with the reason why CR voted LM. But that last sentence is really strange. Remove that last sentence and I actually like it, but that last sentence is just strange. Don't know why that was added.


So, outside of his first post, is there anything meaningful that would make you lean one way or the other about him?

Well he is attacking me for 2 reasons that you shut down immediately. He even brought it up again and you shot it down again. After that he is still on my ass. Dnu, what that is all about.

Meh, he explained it well enough IMO. I'm having second thoughts about his lynch.

Well, find us somebody else!

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


On September 23 2013 11:03 yamato77 wrote:
This game is retarded.


This sort of stuff is scattered throughout his filter, though he does have the occasional content post.




Far worse however is Risen. He repeated calls out filler posts:

On September 24 2013 03:27 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 02:53 kushm4sta wrote:
Lol wtf is the point of all these detailed as Fuck vig lists


It's so people can look active without actually doing anything.


On September 24 2013 06:36 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 06:01 marvellosity wrote:
FT is a decent shot primarily because he might be mafia but also it gives us lots of information on the wagons. Knowing if it was town/town or town/mafia would be really nice.

Risen I'd like to see dead for being a worse version of coag. To repeat, his reaction to the lynch was "rofl" and his only contribution since then was saying something that VE had already pointed out in his own post.

Since when is self-excusing fillpost a good post?


On September 22 2013 08:12 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 08:08 kushm4sta wrote:
On September 22 2013 02:38 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 22 2013 02:12 kushm4sta wrote:
how am i thread police stutters?



By asking for modkills, calling people out for spamming instead of playing? I'd say it's a fitting description


Asking for modkills was a joke mostly. Obviously it wasn't going to happen.
Telling them to stop spamming was definitely a joke. Notice how I used 2 posts unnecessarily and thus spammed myself

This is useless/bad/filler


Yet he doesn't have a single post in his <1 page filter worth reading. As far as vig shots go, he would be at the top of the list.



Mostly for my own benefit, but might help others

Day/Night Posts
+ Show Spoiler +
Day 1
Night 1

Filters
+ Show Spoiler +
1: DarthPunk
2: raynpelikoneet
3: WaveofShadow
4: gumshoe -> Blazinghand
5: yamato77
6: kushm4sta
7: Koshi
8: ObviousOne
10: FirmTofu
11: Pandain
12: Cephiro
13: Mr. Cheesecake
14: Xzavier -> deconduo
15: Coagulation
16: Stutters695
17: Onegu
18: Zenatsu -> Malongo
19: [UoN]Sentinel
20: VisceraEyes
21: VayneAuthority
22: geript
23: Risen
24: LoneMeow
25: marvellosity
26: Zaragon
27: Mattchew
28: Umasi
29: justanothertownie
30: Mocsta

9: Chairman Ray - Town Parity Cop, Lynched Day 1
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 24 2013 20:58 GMT
#2973
Wait unless I'm missing something here, how is yamato confirmed? From what I understand, and coag hasn't been that forthcoming with information, coag claimed a vig shot on yamato, and yamato claimed he was protected. Why does that make yamato town? All it means is that coag is semi-confirmed, and a doc saved yamato.

Why would a scum lie about being protected, it makes sense for yamato to claim the protection regardless of his alignment.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 24 2013 21:02 GMT
#2979
On September 25 2013 05:59 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 05:58 deconduo wrote:
Wait unless I'm missing something here, how is yamato confirmed? From what I understand, and coag hasn't been that forthcoming with information, coag claimed a vig shot on yamato, and yamato claimed he was protected. Why does that make yamato town? All it means is that coag is semi-confirmed, and a doc saved yamato.

Why would a scum lie about being protected, it makes sense for yamato to claim the protection regardless of his alignment.


coag claimed the shot on Vayne.

The clue is where coag kept saying "I'm going to shoot Vayne"


Oh ok. Still though, how does claiming the protection make yamato town? He could stay silent to try and out the doctor as scum, but that's pretty risky to do.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 24 2013 21:02 GMT
#2981
Oh nevermind, I'm an idiot. The KP would have to be scum KP
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 26 2013 00:04 GMT
#3813
Quick thoughts on the main lynch candidates.

Mattchew: Looking pretty damn townish based on this post:

On September 24 2013 08:37 Mattchew wrote:
i dont know if VE can martyr and be this depressing as scum

my vote stayed on yamato because he didn't overreact to a lynch push on him, he didnt even call me scum for voting him, he hasnt been super aggressive the whole game

wave should be medic'd

DP has to be town theres no way scum gets that upset about an apparent mod mistake town lynch

Mocsta is clearly town

i could see a scum team of marv, yamato, firm tofu, stutters, a replaced player, and a lurker

this FT post is long but literally says nothing.

no i will not give my reasoning for marv being scum... plus if im wrong which i probably am because i suck at marvreading, he'll be dead soon enough


I thought the same myself, and WoS would have been my top medic target. Why would scum Mattchew post that, and then go and NK him anyway.




LoneMeow: Has many bad/bizarre posts, such as the martyring as well as this one:

On September 26 2013 04:18 LoneMeow wrote:
Between Cephiro and FirmTofu I'd prefer to lynch FirmTofu. I'll try to be back before deadline but as I'm not even sure anymore when it is, no guarantees.

##Vote: FirmTofu


However I would read that as bad play as opposed to scum play. I don't see anything in his filter that couldn't be explained by being a newbie townie.




Cephiro:

On September 26 2013 08:16 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 08:14 Koshi wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:10 Koshi wrote:
Roleclaim.

me, why?

No Cephiro. Should have posted after OO.


I am not going to claim my role. It's sub-optimal for town. Why do you want me to roleclaim that badly?



On September 26 2013 08:22 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 08:19 Koshi wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:16 Cephiro wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:14 Koshi wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:10 Koshi wrote:
Roleclaim.

me, why?

No Cephiro. Should have posted after OO.

I am not going to claim my role. It's sub-optimal for town. Why do you want me to roleclaim that badly?

I don't want to wait till deadline.


I've claimed my alignment, that should be enough. For someone that has been defending me to some extent, I think you're a bit too eager to find out my role.


These two lines in particular stand out to me. I don't see why a town would ever post something like this, it seems like a very scum-mindset thing to do.

#Vote: Cephiro
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 26 2013 01:56 GMT
#3981
On September 26 2013 10:52 Cephiro wrote:
That claim, what the fuck!? I'm not sure if I should believe it or not x_x Then again if he IS the town doc it's better that I get lynched instead of him, and I'm not leading by many votes.... fucking claims like 10 mins before deadline? Counterclaims anyone?


Well that's not a scum reaction if ever I saw one. Damn.

Maybe we can switch to geript?

##Unvote
##Vote Geript
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 26 2013 01:57 GMT
#3988
On September 26 2013 10:57 Mocsta wrote:
OK. I DOC'D YAM

everyone, pile onto lonemeow.


k
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 26 2013 01:58 GMT
#3993
On September 26 2013 10:57 Mocsta wrote:
OK. I DOC'D YAM

everyone, pile onto lonemeow.


Any breadcrumb?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 26 2013 01:59 GMT
#3997
Or this could be Mocsta trolling...
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 26 2013 02:00 GMT
#4003
On September 26 2013 10:59 deconduo wrote:
Or this could be Mocsta trolling...


On September 26 2013 11:00 Mocsta wrote:
kk. im not doc, i just wanted lone lynched

sorry guise hes scum i tell you !


zzz
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 27 2013 00:26 GMT
#4535
I don't actually think marv is scum. Look at his reaction to when LM claimed doc:

On September 26 2013 10:52 Cephiro wrote:
That claim, what the fuck!? I'm not sure if I should believe it or not x_x Then again if he IS the town doc it's better that I get lynched instead of him, and I'm not leading by many votes.... fucking claims like 10 mins before deadline? Counterclaims anyone?


That's a very un-scumlike reaction.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 27 2013 00:26 GMT
#4536
EBWOP: Don't think ceph is scum.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 27 2013 00:32 GMT
#4543
On September 27 2013 09:28 iamperfection wrote:
decondu why did you not respond when people were calling you out but the proceed to happen to be around the deadline?


Where were people calling me out? Also I usually wouldn't be around at the deadline (4am my time), insomnia kept me awake last night.

On September 27 2013 09:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 09:26 deconduo wrote:
I don't actually think marv is scum. Look at his reaction to when LM claimed doc:

On September 26 2013 10:52 Cephiro wrote:
That claim, what the fuck!? I'm not sure if I should believe it or not x_x Then again if he IS the town doc it's better that I get lynched instead of him, and I'm not leading by many votes.... fucking claims like 10 mins before deadline? Counterclaims anyone?


That's a very un-scumlike reaction.

I find it negated by the red statement that follows. In a game with unknown quantities of roles, a counterclaim wouldn't really do anything to prove whether LM was lying. Verily, we HAD a counterclaim and...he wasn't lying.

I had the same thought, but I couldn't reconcile it with the request for counterclaims. Am I wrong?


Yeah, maybe you're right. I just can't imagine a scum posting that line completely off the cuff.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 27 2013 00:41 GMT
#4549
On September 27 2013 09:36 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 09:32 deconduo wrote:
On September 27 2013 09:28 iamperfection wrote:
decondu why did you not respond when people were calling you out but the proceed to happen to be around the deadline?


Where were people calling me out? Also I usually wouldn't be around at the deadline (4am my time), insomnia kept me awake last night.

On September 27 2013 09:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On September 27 2013 09:26 deconduo wrote:
I don't actually think marv is scum. Look at his reaction to when LM claimed doc:

On September 26 2013 10:52 Cephiro wrote:
That claim, what the fuck!? I'm not sure if I should believe it or not x_x Then again if he IS the town doc it's better that I get lynched instead of him, and I'm not leading by many votes.... fucking claims like 10 mins before deadline? Counterclaims anyone?


That's a very un-scumlike reaction.

I find it negated by the red statement that follows. In a game with unknown quantities of roles, a counterclaim wouldn't really do anything to prove whether LM was lying. Verily, we HAD a counterclaim and...he wasn't lying.

I had the same thought, but I couldn't reconcile it with the request for counterclaims. Am I wrong?


Yeah, maybe you're right. I just can't imagine a scum posting that line completely off the cuff.

right after your vote post on cephiro. You reading the thread?


So by 'people' you mean you and Cheesecake? Neither of you said anything worthy of a response tbh. If you had actually read my post properly you would have had the answers to your questions.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 28 2013 16:47 GMT
#4824
It always unnerves me when there's no resistance to a lynch. However I can't offer any good alternatives.

## Vote Cephiro
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 30 2013 00:57 GMT
#4967
On September 30 2013 09:11 Koshi wrote:
Ok so before I sleep. Kitaman confirmed town for anybody with a brain.

Tomorrow I ll find our lynch. Mocsta/rayn/VE/Risen all energy on those 4 people. FT feels like crapshoot atm.... but he can be 5 target.
Just use all available time on those. I'll look into all. But I know I prefer Mocsta for tomorrow.


My brain isn't working, so can you explain why Koshi is town. He hasn't done anything scummy, but nothing screams town at me from what he's said so far either.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 30 2013 00:57 GMT
#4968
Koshi/Kita/whatever. You know what I mean.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 30 2013 02:26 GMT
#4991
OO claimed he was RB'd night 1.
No one claimed for night 2.
JAT night 3.

What happened night 2? Unless Marv/Yamato was RB'd as well, but why RB who you kill. Something's up.
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