• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:57
CET 13:57
KST 21:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Dark completes military service, returns to SC211[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage19Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?2Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175
StarCraft 2
General
Dark completes military service, returns to SC2 Greetings.. No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Dark returns! GSL CK #7 4v4 Team Battle (Nov 19) soO & FanTaSy return! SC2 Kevin Scrim 4v4 (Nov 16) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
List of top players active on ShieldBattery BW General Discussion Korean players' earnings Hit New All-Time High! SOOP Hosts SC1 & SC2 Event Tournament: Kevin Scrim BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [BSL23] Ro16 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Bisu's Team vs Shuttle's Team 2026-11-14
Strategy
Pluto's TvP 5Marine 2Medic Push Simple Questions, Simple Answers Infested Terran strategies in 2026 Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Free Space RTS Game, optimised f. Phone/Tablet etc List of Game Threads The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread Trading/Investing Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 12652 users

fOrGG playing starcraft 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 19 20 21 Next All
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 17:46:32
July 15 2011 16:08 GMT
#1
So yesterday on Huk's stream it was revealed that Raptor who is currently rank 16 GM on the Korean ladder is in fact fOrGG:
[image loading]
This could be an elaborate hoax by Huk and the owner of the raptor account, but there are some evidence that this is likely fOrGG. fOrGG announced his retirement on December 28th, 2010. The raptor account was initially placed into gold on January 8th, 2011 according to sc2ranks.com:
[image loading]
It has also previously been mentioned in another stream chat that Raptor is a former SC1 progamer. I did not save a copy of that stream chat, but it was on either San's stream or ZeNEXTandongho (I don't really remember) and by the streamer himself or someone helping him set up who definitely seemed certain.

Obviously this does not clear up whether he plans to take up sc2 progaming or whether it is just a hobby. However this season he had over 1200 games played which is higher than the vast majority of the Korean GM league (these figures may be skewed slightly as progamers in team houses likely do a larger amount of customs). This suggests he is at least taking it seriously.

I'm not sure whether fOrGG really understood that Huk was streaming and therefore was a bit hestitant about making this topic, but either way Huk had 5000+ viewers and some discussion about it in the Huk streamchat has now been linked on reddit so I figured it's already out there and we may as well have a discussion thread here on TL. Either way I don't see how it could really hurt fOrGG.

The relevant game can be found in the VOD:
http://www.justin.tv/liquidhuk/b/290221945
It is at the end of part 2 and goes on in part 3 (starts at about 1:57:20 in part 2).


EDIT: Apparently many sc2 players do not know forgg. He was a very strong bw player playing on kt with flash for the last part of his career, but originally on oz. In 2008 he won the Arena MSL beating Jaedong 3-0 and Flash 3-1. Beating Jaedong 3-0 in a bo5 in 2008 was a ridiculous feat.

Later on he fell into somewhat of a slump, but remained a regular in proleague (unlike b-teamers like MC). However he was to some extent overshadowed by flash and never really recovered his 2008 form. At the end of 2010 he announced his retirement.

He is likely the strongest bw player to switch over if he will compete professionally. Of course Nada, Boxer and July are more accomplished, but in modern BW forgg was much better than such players.

Also he was famous for his timing attacks (which caused the nicknames you see people call him in this thread).


Some people seem to downplay forgg's recent skill a bit so some comparison to current sc2 players is needed. To be fielded regularly in the proleague (BW teamleague) you had to be quite good.

The following is the win-loss (ratio) statistics for some of the current sc2 stars and forgg.

In the 2009-2010 proleague:
MC (Iron): 0-2 (0%)
Sangho: 3-7 (30%)
MVP: 5-12 (29.4%)
forgg: 10-10 (50%)
Nestea (zergbong): 0-0 (not fielded)
Puma: 3-9 (25%)

In the 2008-2009 proleague:
MC (Iron): 1-2 (33.3%)
Sangho: 23-15 (60.5%)
MVP: 5-15 (25%)
Nestea (zergbong): 0-1 (0%)
forgg: 14-10 (58.3%)
Puma: 1-6 (14.3%)

Individual league stats are not really reliable as when you get far you play better players and total stats are not better as "bad" players compete in the minor leagues which are not as good.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 15 2011 16:10 GMT
#2
OH SHIT FORGG REALLY? How'd he know?
Was he just playing for fun or is this serious?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 16:13:28
July 15 2011 16:11 GMT
#3
Forgg come back to KT! We need a decent #2 terran. And no Barracks doesn't count.

If you do decide to stick with SC2 that's cool too. Teach these kids what a timing attack really is.
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 16:12:06
July 15 2011 16:11 GMT
#4
On July 16 2011 01:10 Torte de Lini wrote:
OH SHIT FORGG REALLY? How'd he know?
Was he just playing for fun or is this serious?

The game in question was on ladder and seemed pretty serious. The outcome was:
+ Show Spoiler +
forgg won quite one-sidedly


EDIT: and I have no idea who told Huk.
FatBlackZombieMama
Profile Joined November 2010
France118 Posts
July 15 2011 16:12 GMT
#5
The Timing Attack Terran strikes back! Very nice piece of news .
EPIIIIC!
FreezerJumps
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada653 Posts
July 15 2011 16:12 GMT
#6
I wouldn't call it surprising that he would play SC2, nor that he would be very good. The real question is why he hasn't joined a team, or whether he intends to.
pingy[wen]
Profile Joined June 2010
United States157 Posts
July 15 2011 16:12 GMT
#7
i'm sure a lot of sc1 pros/former pros play sc2 casually on the ladder. wont freak out till he plays competitively.
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
July 15 2011 16:12 GMT
#8
Nice, guess as the "timing attacker" he might really like this game, eh?
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
July 15 2011 16:12 GMT
#9
Is this REAL ? I mean 100% real?
o choro é livre
asdfTT123
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States989 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 16:24:20
July 15 2011 16:13 GMT
#10
O_O

Wow.

If fOrGG transitions, I think he will be arguably the best (skill-wise) ex-broodwar player in SC2. To give some background to those not familiar in the BW scene, fOrGG won an MSL against Jaedong 3-0, considered to be the best zerg brood-war player bar-non (though on some pretty bullshit maps). Otherwise, he played solidly in proleague on Hwaseung Oz but when he transitioned to KT, his play severely declined until he recently retired.
n.Die_Jaedong <3
birdkicker
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States752 Posts
July 15 2011 16:13 GMT
#11
Interesting news!
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
July 15 2011 16:13 GMT
#12
Holy Fuck
gn0m
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden302 Posts
July 15 2011 16:13 GMT
#13
If that is really him and he decides to play the game seriously, I think he will do pretty damn well.
-_-
Vehemus
Profile Joined November 2010
United States586 Posts
July 15 2011 16:14 GMT
#14
On July 16 2011 01:12 pingy[wen] wrote:
i'm sure a lot of sc1 pros/former pros play sc2 casually on the ladder. wont freak out till he plays competitively.


I wouldn't be surprised either, but we're talking about a player in the top 20 GM in Korea with over a thousand games played. Pretty difficult to say this person is playing casually.
This space for rent.
dc302
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia576 Posts
July 15 2011 16:15 GMT
#15
Haven't actually heard of this guy but I'm all for BW players switching to SC2
...
Darthozzan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden136 Posts
July 15 2011 16:15 GMT
#16
Saw the game, pretty badass play, would be really cool to see forgg play sc2 competitively =D
http://complexitygaming.com ° @Darthozzan on twitter
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
July 15 2011 16:15 GMT
#17
On July 16 2011 01:12 FatBlackZombieMama wrote:
The Timing Attack Terran strikes back! Very nice piece of news .

That's right. Timing attack terran + sc2 = scary
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
July 15 2011 16:15 GMT
#18
Good news. I hope Yellow jumps into SC2, too.
beachbeachy
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States509 Posts
July 15 2011 16:16 GMT
#19
That would be amazing! He would be my favorite player =)))
Dream no small dreams for they have no power to move the hearts of men. - Goethe
Bwenjarin Raffrack
Profile Joined November 2008
United States322 Posts
July 15 2011 16:16 GMT
#20
It seems a little weird that he'd respond to the ID "fOrGG" since he hadn't used it in around four years. Unless he's aware of how the foreign community referred to him, of course.
I'm not as thunk as dreople pink I am.
1 2 3 4 5 19 20 21 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
20:00
WardiTV Not-Summer Championshi
SHIN vs RogueLIVE!
ByuN vs Solar
MaxPax vs TBD
herO vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
WardiTV860
TaKeTV 361
Rex120
Liquipedia
Sparkling Tuna Cup
19:00
Weekly #155 (PatchesSC Mod)
herO vs ByuNLIVE!
ByuN387
CranKy Ducklings120
CranKy Ducklings SOOP9
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 387
Rex 120
Codebar 47
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 6861
Rain 1824
Shuttle 1715
BeSt 744
Light 623
Mini 528
Soulkey 500
Hyuk 323
firebathero 255
ggaemo 167
[ Show more ]
ZerO 157
hero 154
Last 149
actioN 135
Mind 126
Zeus 112
Snow 110
Larva 98
Killer 93
Pusan 82
Barracks 75
Hyun 52
Sea.KH 43
Mong 42
PianO 34
sorry 29
ToSsGirL 28
Free 22
JYJ 22
Hm[arnc] 21
Aegong 20
Sharp 18
910 16
HiyA 14
scan(afreeca) 13
soO 13
yabsab 13
Sacsri 12
zelot 8
NaDa 6
Icarus 4
Dota 2
Gorgc7066
XcaliburYe219
monkeys_forever197
Counter-Strike
x6flipin391
Other Games
FrodaN3318
singsing2121
B2W.Neo503
Happy289
XaKoH 209
KnowMe127
CosmosSc2 14
ZerO(Twitch)12
fpsfer 0
Organizations
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 702
IntoTheiNu 643
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 16
[ Show 9 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• ChaeLyn 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
IPSL
4h 4m
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
BSL
7h 4m
Artosis vs Dewalt
Ret vs Tech
SOOP
21h 4m
soO vs FanTaSy
WardiTV Weekly
23h 4m
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
GSL
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
5 days
BSL
6 days
eOnzErG vs StRyKeR
Cross vs JDConan
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-14
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 591
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
IEM Kraków 2027
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.