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Hi,
I could not get an answer to this in the Liquipedia, so I'll give it a shot here:
Once the third Open GSL is over by the end of the year, the year-long GSL 2011 will start. In which format will this league be played? Will it be 12 separate tournaments (each a month long) like the ones we see now or will it be a real "league", meaning every player has to play every player a few times with points for wins with a potential Playoff stage at the end of the year - just like we see it in the NHL or NBA?
I would be glad if someone could explain it, also the thing with the S and A class players.
Thanks
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Plans for GSL 2011
There will be 12 tournaments throughout 2011, and there will be 4 types of tournaments.
1. GSL (Ran in January, March, April, July and September) - Main League. 32 Code S players tournament and 64 Code A players tournament.
2. World Championship (Ran in June and October) - 4 representative from each region in a 16 man tournament.
3. Ladder Tournament (Ran in February, May, August and November) - Tournament to decide best of Battle.Net ladder. Top 200 from each region are invited to participate in a preliminary for a 16 man double elimination tournament.
4. Blizzard Cup (Ran in December) - Top 8 (of GSL ranking I'm guessing?) will be invited to decide the best player of the year in a Bo5 Playoff format tournament.
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That to me sounds like thee most well organised, structured, fantastic tournament off all time!. Hope to see quite a few more europeans making the trip over there, just a shame Demuslim and TLO have ruled themself out for now.
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so anyone who did not play in any of the three open GSLs (this year) can not participate in the Main League tournaments because he is neither S nor A class?
=> If let's say huk fails to qualify for GSL Open 3 he could not participate next year?
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this is really awesome  then ill be invited i think it will be really honorific.
ahm gsl 3 is the last one for 2010 right?
and what is the S and A code players?
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On November 08 2010 22:23 luke1304 wrote:
so anyone who did not play in any of the three open GSLs (this year) can not participate in the Main League tournaments because he is neither S nor A class?
=> If let's say huk fails to qualify for GSL Open 3 he could not participate next year?
He would have to win a Ladder Tournament to get placed into the GSL.
That is the only way for non-Code A/Code S players to get in.
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On November 08 2010 22:25 s1eger wrote:this is really awesome then ill be invited i think it will be really honorific. ahm gsl 3 is the last one for 2010 right? and what is the S and A code players?
The top 32 Ranked GSL players become Code S.
The top 33-96 Ranked GSL players become Code A.
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On November 08 2010 22:27 dcemuser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 22:23 luke1304 wrote:
so anyone who did not play in any of the three open GSLs (this year) can not participate in the Main League tournaments because he is neither S nor A class?
=> If let's say huk fails to qualify for GSL Open 3 he could not participate next year? He would have to win a Ladder Tournament to get placed into the GSL. That is the only way for non-Code A/Code S players to get in.
Where did you hear of this? I've seen nowhere that the ladder tournament leads to any midyear placement in the main tournament.
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On November 08 2010 22:15 rift wrote:
Plans for GSL 2011
There will be 12 tournaments throughout 2011, and there will be 4 types of tournaments.
1. GSL (Ran in January, March, April, July and September) - Main League. 32 Code S players tournament and 64 Code A players tournament.
2. World Championship (Ran in June and October) - 4 representative from each region in a 16 man tournament.
3. Ladder Tournament (Ran in February, May, August and November) - Tournament to decide best of Battle.Net ladder. Top 200 from each region are invited to participate in a preliminary for a 16 man double elimination tournament.
4. Blizzard Cup (Ran in December) - Top 8 (of GSL ranking I'm guessing?) will be invited to decide the best player of the year in a Bo5 Playoff format tournament.
There are those of us, including myself, who would love to know where this information comes from and if we can have access to it.
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One thing I like about this format is that it really encourages players to keep laddering hard. As more of these leagues and structures pop up(and chat channels to help foster practice games) I could see people's desire to ladder to slip a bit. Also the fact that ladder replays could end up on websites and such had me thinking it would be less seen for the better players to play on the ladder and I find it fun to watch the best players compete on the ladder.
This format should encourage players to continue to play ladder matches which I like. I wonder if this isn't something Blizzard pushed them to do, as it is better for them if a part of their system is put in place to help determine some of the participants. Helps to justify what is actually not a very good system in a way(the blizzard laddder) if you are actually rewarded for playing on it.
The last thing I take away from this is that we are going to be able to watch a crapton of SC2 next year. I also like how they are going to get outside regions involved as well, it shows they understand that even if Korea is the strongest in terms of talent they appreciate the world wide viewership and those regional events will be popular I'm sure because people will want to watch players they know and follow more locally.
All around good stuff.
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On November 08 2010 22:27 dcemuser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 22:23 luke1304 wrote:
so anyone who did not play in any of the three open GSLs (this year) can not participate in the Main League tournaments because he is neither S nor A class?
=> If let's say huk fails to qualify for GSL Open 3 he could not participate next year? He would have to win a Ladder Tournament to get placed into the GSL. That is the only way for non-Code A/Code S players to get in.
That doesn"t seem right. A Single Code B player having to wait a whole year plus to win a 200 player tourney just to get Code A seems a bit too hard and time consuming.
It"ll probably be the bottom dwellers of Code A Demoted to Code B while the top pf Code B achieve Code A. it may well be that the Top players of the Ladder tourney may get promoted to Code A , GSL style.
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On November 08 2010 22:27 dcemuser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 22:25 s1eger wrote:this is really awesome then ill be invited i think it will be really honorific. ahm gsl 3 is the last one for 2010 right? and what is the S and A code players? The top 32 Ranked GSL players become Code S. The top 33-96 Ranked GSL players become Code A.
IIRC, Code A has been changed to include only the #33-#64 players. Everyone else ranked below will be Code B (or whatever letter they use).
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On December 10 2010 04:20 Whiladan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 22:27 dcemuser wrote:On November 08 2010 22:25 s1eger wrote:this is really awesome then ill be invited i think it will be really honorific. ahm gsl 3 is the last one for 2010 right? and what is the S and A code players? The top 32 Ranked GSL players become Code S. The top 33-96 Ranked GSL players become Code A. IIRC, Code A has been changed to include only the #33-#64 players. Everyone else ranked below will be Code B (or whatever letter they use).
This is correct.
Also, there will be tournaments where the bottom of S fight the top of A for their right to stay S-call or be replaced. I assume there will be similar for the bottom of A with the rest of the world?
EDIT: "Up and Down Match" where S and A are pitted against each other is described here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=170373
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- World Championship - Top 4 players in Korea, EU, NA, and Chinese servers will play 16 player tournament
Chinese server? Surely they can't mean Taiwan...
Also, what's the word on getting into Code A from nothing? HuK, for example. Ladder rank seems improbable.
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On December 10 2010 04:39 rift wrote:
Also, what's the word on getting into Code A from nothing? HuK, for example. Ladder rank seems improbable.
Sounds like there's a qualifier for Code A since the bottom 32 in the code A tournament have to play in a qualifier to get in the next code A tournament. I'm guessing the qualifier is open.
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I'm actually more curious if GOM is going to setup, establish, and maintain some type of SC2 Proleague. they're going to need it in order to help maintain SC2 teams otherwise I think only the Code S, A, and really hopeful non-A players will stick around SC2 progaming imo.
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Reference:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=170373
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Code S
1. Top 32 players from 2010 GSL will be placed into 8 groups of 4 each.
2. Each group will determine 1st ~ 4th places via "GSL Method" (probably full round robin?)
3. 1st and 2nd place of each group will move onto ro16.
4. 4th place finishers of each group will be placed into "Up and Down Match"
5. 16 players from #3 above will be placed into 4 groups of 4 each.
6. Each group will determine top 2 players via "GOMTV League Method" (don't know how this differs from GSL Method"
7. 8 players will go through "cross tournament" (this just means they will put 1st places against 2nd places to fill out the bracket) to determine the winner.
8. Top 8 players will have seed for the next tournament (will be put into different groups for ro32 next season probably, and will have something similar to group selection OSL and MSL uses)
9. Each group stage will be Bo1, Ro8 is Bo3, Ro4 Bo5, and the Finals is Bo7.
Code A
1. 64 player tournament
2. Ro64 ~ Ro16 will be Bo1, Ro8 ~ Finals will be Bo3
3. Top 32 players will have right to remain in Code A tournament.
4. Bottom 32 players will have to go through the qualifiers to play in the next Code A tournament.
5. Top 8 players will be placed into "Up and Down Match"
Up and Down Match
1. Code S bottom 8 and Code A top 8 will play.
2. Code S player will play against a Code A player.
3. Code A winner and runner up will have a right to pick their opponents in order.
4. Remaining 12 players will be determine the match up by random drawing.
5. Winners in the Up and Down Match will be in the next Code S and losers in the Code A.
6. All matches will be Bo5.
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My interpretation on the road from nothing to winning GSL:
GSL4:
Get top 32 in qualifer to get into the GSL4 Code A qualifier (current Code-A skip this)
Win RO64, RO32, RO16 (all BO1) to get into the Code S/A Up/Down match
(Winning RO8, RO4, Finals of Code A get you better seeding into the Up/Down matches)
Win Up/Down Match -- congrats you are now Code S!
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GSL5:
Get top 2 in the Code-S RO64 group of 4
Get top 2 in the RO16 group of 4
Win RO8, RO4, Finals
Congrats you're the GSL5 champ!
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Road from Code-S to scrub:
GSL4:
Get 4th place in your RO64 group of 4
Lose your Up/Down Match vs the Code-A upcomer -- Sorry you are now Code A
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GSL5:
Lose your Code-A RO64 BO1 game to someone coming into Code-A through qualifiers
gg nore you have to qualify to get back into Code-A next time.
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