• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 00:22
CET 06:22
KST 14:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners11Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation0Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada3SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7
StarCraft 2
General
Craziest Micro Moments Of All Time? Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close"
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
Terran 1:35 12 Gas Optimization FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions
Tourneys
[BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET [ASL20] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1414 users

[Reports]Pringles 2 MSL Semi-Final 1

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27154 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-30 19:59:48
October 30 2006 19:59 GMT
#1
Pringles 2 MSL Semi-Final 1

Better late than never, this report is merely for the record keeping, it isn’t anything special. This week’s liquiscoop is far far sexier

[image loading]


Last week the semi-finals of the Pringles MSL kicked off in style with two of the three zerg players in the round of four battling in a best of five. Believe it or not, this MSL features NO terran players in the top 4. I can’t remember another tournament in recent memory when this was the case.

From the Pantech team, Silver has been on an impressive run lately, taking out strong protoss players in Pusan and Kingdom in this tourney. With the pressure of his first semi-final upon him, his game would have to rise to new heights. He came into the match with a 5-4 record vs Jju and a 60% record vs all Z players.

Jju, captain of the Samsung team and owner of the loudest beak in BW needed to show up with a strong performance in this series to vault himself into the light of perennial contender. His results lately have been good, but they need to be great, and at just over 50% for games vs Z he was looking for improvement. Let’s check out the action.

Game 1: Arcadia II

Jju, with the blue zerg, opened at 5 while directly above him Silver chiseled away at his mineral blocks at 1. The first overlords were on a collision course as Silver opted for a 9 pool/gas before overlord and Jju expanded at 12. Was this a good idea by Jju? Nope, because those early lings were headed south in a hurry and the hatchery drone popped right back up. Jju was forced to sunken his mineral line while Silver already had a spire down thanks to an ultra fast lair. Although he had more drones, Jju was forced to invest in an evo chamber as mutalisks were incoming immediately. However, after losing two lords, Jju knew the jig was up and typed GG before losing a single ground unit.

Silver 1:0 Jju

Game 2: Blitz

For the second game of the night, Silver spawned right while Jju spawned left. Looking to build more safely after his game 1 mishap, Jju 9 pooled while Silver waited until 12 to start his own. Backed by early lings Jju felt free to expand as he left to explore the west. Silver had also expanded, and both players teched to spires.

Having slightly more drones at the start is usually all the advantage pro players need in zvz. As Silver explored the map with his lings, Jju was cautious and dropped a sunken at his choke. Silver attempted to expand again, and while the hatchery was killed by Jju, the micro battle went to the Pantech zerg. His mutalisks numbers were far superior thanks to some well placed overlords. The air forces clashed yet again over the center of the map, and when Jju lost handily he typed GG, again without losing a drone.

Silver 2:0 Jju

Game 3: Peaks of Baekdu

Holding a comfortable 2-0 lead, all the cards were in Silver’s favour as he could attempt a risky build with some games to burn. He started at the top and while Jju expanded at 12 and then pooled, he dropped a pool and gas at 12 and then expanded. The result of this switch-up was that Silver was able to offensive sunken the expo hatchery as soon as it popped and follow that up with lings. However, Jju showed masterful mirco and defense against the tactics and got away with losing only a creep colony and a handful of lings.

Having survived the scare, Jju sent his lings the long way around the map, leaving his expansion open. Silver took the bait, attacked the expansion, and then watched his own drones die to the backdoor lings. Jju managed to defend his main against the last gasps of Silver, and got back into the match with his first win.

Silver 2:1 Jju

Game 4: Longinus

After three short games, the players were back in action on the three player map Longinus. Taking the upper left base, Jju sported the red zerg and 12 pooled. Over at 3, Silver 9 pooled for fast lings, and his scouting overlord was in the right place at the right time. Jju had to decide whether to defend his natural hatch or cancel, and he chose to defend it, managing to stave off the attacks with the hatchery in critical red.

Silver was unrelenting in his early micro though, and while his lair was finishing on his one hatchery, he kept Jju busy by sending in pairs of lings to the Samsung main and threatening the weak hatchery with the remainder of his force. Having 1/2 the larvae was a cause from concern though, and he sunkened his mainline while starting his spire.

Jju himself was low on drones after defending and expanding, and his gas production was very late. He managed to stall Silver’s spire slightly, but it was not enough and he spent his cash on spores and chambers, as well as replacement lords. The question was whether his more powerful economy could by him time vs Silver, who was still running off of one hatchery at this late hour. The answer for Silver turned out to be a switch back to ground. With Jju too concerned about air, a wave of lings poured over his defenses and killed his spire. Jju barely managed to defend his main at the cost of many drones, and Silver kept on the pressure. Constantly switching between air and ground, Jju was kept on the defensive until finally he was forced to give up his natural.

At this point Silver was still mining from only his main, but he had a much larger group of mutalisks. Jju’s spores kept them at bay slightly, but when another wave of zerglings backed them up, Jju could do nothing and typed gg.

Silver 3:1

There were no epic low-econ micro battles today (although game 4 came close) nor were there any long and drawn out macro battles. In no game did either player have more than 12 mutalisks. It was simply Silver out thinking or out building Jju at every step.

Winner’s Interview, thanks to rinizm for the translation.

This week:

How is this for a semi-finals? A rematch of the last MSL finals, the Dreamer Toss rA faces the greatest force in progaming today, savior. Place your bets, because this one is going to be crazy.

Honestea wrote up a great preview here.

Watch for those games coming this week.

Bye,
Mani
ModeratorGodfather
polarwolf
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
924 Posts
October 30 2006 20:03 GMT
#2
why isn't this in the news? thx anyway manifesto.
OctoPuSs
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Canada5279 Posts
October 30 2006 20:27 GMT
#3
Awesome report Mani

But yea, why is it not in the news section?
Depression is just a sarcastic state of mind. Liquid`HerO Fighting!
Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
October 30 2006 20:40 GMT
#4
Maybe he didn't want to bump the liquiscoop. The matches weren't good enough imo either to warrant special attention, but mani is a studly workhorse who wants to keep the records tidy.

Cheers.
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
araav
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Armenia1590 Posts
October 30 2006 21:18 GMT
#5
thanks Mani for everything you do for BW community! keep it up <3
The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
SCNewb
Profile Joined June 2006
Canada2210 Posts
October 30 2006 22:00 GMT
#6
Thanks for the reports Mani
Huge iloveOov fan
Coulthard
Profile Joined September 2005
Greece3359 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-30 23:09:21
October 30 2006 23:08 GMT
#7
nice report
it should be in the news
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6773 Posts
October 30 2006 23:11 GMT
#8
thanks manly festo
Graphics
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27154 Posts
October 31 2006 07:57 GMT
#9
Yeah I didnt want to bump liquiscoop, and these were kind of makeup reports, because I was expecting them to be out on the weekend. When they are so old, there really isnt a place for them up top, so I just wanted to have a written record of the games.

(when it says 'no report availible' in the summary threads it really grinds my gears')
ModeratorGodfather
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
October 31 2006 08:15 GMT
#10
Game 4 vod was really nice to watch
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
October 31 2006 13:47 GMT
#11
On October 31 2006 16:57 Manifesto7 wrote:
Yeah I didnt want to bump liquiscoop, and these were kind of makeup reports, because I was expecting them to be out on the weekend. When they are so old, there really isnt a place for them up top, so I just wanted to have a written record of the games.

(when it says 'no report availible' in the summary threads it really grinds my gears')


Ruh roh, maybe I should write something else if it isn't written then. I definitely don't want to awaken the Manley Festo Beast inside of Mani.
Do your best, God will do the rest.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
23:00
PiGosaur Cup #55
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 148
ProTech128
Nina 127
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 56777
Tasteless 303
Icarus 7
Dota 2
XaKoH 142
League of Legends
Reynor159
Counter-Strike
fl0m1383
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1978
C9.Mang0371
Other Games
summit1g13179
WinterStarcraft341
ViBE115
CosmosSc2 12
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 71
• Berry_CruncH61
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• Diggity3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1429
• Lourlo653
• Stunt353
Other Games
• Scarra1227
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
3h 38m
OSC
6h 8m
Kung Fu Cup
6h 38m
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
17h 38m
The PondCast
1d 4h
RSL Revival
1d 4h
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
1d 6h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 6h
PiGosaur Monday
1d 19h
RSL Revival
2 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
[ Show More ]
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
IPSL
3 days
ZZZero vs rasowy
Napoleon vs KameZerg
BSL 21
3 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
BSL 21
4 days
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
IPSL
4 days
Dewalt vs WolFix
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-07
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.