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On May 28 2011 12:54 SKtheAnathema wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 12:50 dabom88 wrote:
I don't hate Gretorp, I just think he's terrible for the NASL. I never going to buy a ticket as long as I keep hearing him on the stream and vods. same here. i thought i was being too anal about gretorp's casting at first, but it seems like a lot of people feel the same way. he is the sole reason i haven't paid for a ticket :\ only reason he's umutable now is because mrbitters has been casting with him.
He's grown on me and I rather like his casting, I think him and inControl make a really good pair.
I think Mr. Bitters is great too.
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On May 28 2011 12:43 dormer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 12:36 DivinO wrote:On May 28 2011 12:35 IPA wrote:On May 28 2011 12:33 mistgun_EU wrote:On May 28 2011 12:32 julianto wrote:On May 28 2011 12:30 Hollis wrote:
One thing I will say about Gretorp is, even though I'm sure he's aware of all the criticism leveled against him, some of it constructive and some of it not so constructive, he still keeps trucking. Good for him.
But he's still bad and he still should be replaced, IMO. Sorry I just don't see what's so bad about him. same, the haters just bash him with no explaination. His constant mispronunciation of words; his unfunny jokes; his repetitious vocabulary; etc. I love NASL and I want it to be the best it can be. It isn't the best it can be with Gretorp at the helm. He tries hard but his lack of vocab + malapropisms makes for a painful, painful listening experience. He's analytical. He has great knowledge of the game. He's a great straight man to iNcontroL's funny man. He does a better job than a lot of other casters can. Him and iNcontroL together are funnier and a better casting team than anyone but Tastosis in my opinion, and even that can be argued. Of course it can be argued, opinions about casters are, well, opinions... There generally isn't any objective way of "proving" or showing that a particular caster is good, most of it comes down to personal preference. Personally, I can't stand listening to Incontrol; Gretorp's analysis seems okay, but his English is a little weird -- still, I've enjoyed him with TB and Mr. Bitter. But that's just my opinion -- it doesn't mean anything. People posting in LR threads don't prove anything either. 15,000 people were watching the NASL -- a dozen people on TL saying "Gretorp rules" or "Gretorp sucks" doesn't show anything about the overall opinion of the audience. Sorry if this sounds aggressive or anything, it's not particularly directed at you, but at the whole "Caster A sucks / No he's awesome" type of debate that's been happening alot recently. Just saying I don't see the point in debating something that comes down to personal preference.
No no you're cool. Like I really understand where you're coming from. He's not the best caster, but I enjoy his casting.
Stay boss. 
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Hey guys -- the match vs Haypro was not aired because he was bedridden with a fever. It will be broadcast along with next week's match for Division 3.
I apologize for us not making an announcement of it in today's show, it won't happen again. Thanks all for your patience and understanding, hope you enjoyed the games today!
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On May 28 2011 12:59 Mordiford wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 12:54 SKtheAnathema wrote:On May 28 2011 12:50 dabom88 wrote:
I don't hate Gretorp, I just think he's terrible for the NASL. I never going to buy a ticket as long as I keep hearing him on the stream and vods. same here. i thought i was being too anal about gretorp's casting at first, but it seems like a lot of people feel the same way. he is the sole reason i haven't paid for a ticket :\ only reason he's umutable now is because mrbitters has been casting with him. He's grown on me and I rather like his casting, I think him and inControl make a really good pair. I think Mr. Bitters is great too.
I'm really surprised how good mr bitter is, especially with the analytical side of casting. All of those 12 weeks episodes must have helped him a lot in that regard
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Thumbs up to Mr. Bitter. He's better here than he is on his 12 Weeks stuff, imo.
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Gretorp is great! His vocal quirks can be annoying at times but he adds a layer of emotional analysis and reaction that not everyone has. Incontrol for instance, always sounds as if he's putting on his nasl character to do the show. Everyone can agree that Mr. Bitter was great.
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Man, everyone is just brutal to casters. There are definitely casters I prefer over others, but so far none have been so bad to keep me from paying for NASL or GSL.
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On May 28 2011 13:26 VillageBC wrote:
Man, everyone is just brutal to casters. There are definitely casters I prefer over others, but so far none have been so bad to keep me from paying for NASL or GSL.
I don't think people are really brutal, I think that yes, they do have some expectations and voice their complaints and criticisms but there's really nothing wrong with that... There are very few casters that would straight up keep me from buying a ticket, I can really only think of one or two.
They're also incredibly supportive when a caster comes on and is genuinely good, people aren't just trying to be dicks...
I mean, look at all the support and praise for Mr. Bitter, though I think there's a tinge of skew in his commentary, it's certainly not a deal breaker and his commentary and analysis is thoroughly enjoyable.
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Today's group is very interesting, nada needs a couple of 2-0 wins to take over strelock/squirtle...here is me wishing he will win 2-0 in his next games, and man the other groups are very very interesting.
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Poor Haypro. Hope he is okay.
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On May 28 2011 13:10 Xeris wrote:
Hey guys -- the match vs Haypro was not aired because he was bedridden with a fever. It will be broadcast along with next week's match for Division 3.
I apologize for us not making an announcement of it in today's show, it won't happen again. Thanks all for your patience and understanding, hope you enjoyed the games today!
Thanks for letting us know, if a bit late :-p Glad that they'll still play the match, though.
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Has anyone looked at the NASL standings lately? The current top 15 are absolutely sick. I know there are still playoffs and the qualifier, but the LAN finals are going to be incredible.
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Mr Bitter you handsome, handsome fellow! Pleasantly surprised when I tuned in today.
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Mr.B is awesome. Gretorp isn't good enough for him. Need DJwheat/Day9 or something.
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WTF is the problem with Gretorp like...I genuinely don't get it at all.
Never watched Mr Bitter's stream, seems like a pretty cool guy!
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NaDa's really good. Not sure what else I can say.
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"2 rax op" shut the hell up thx. dont want to hear zerg cries on commentated matches as well as my ladder games
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On May 29 2011 02:21 breakingties wrote:
"2 rax op" shut the hell up thx. dont want to hear zerg cries on commentated matches as well as my ladder games
he was joking  I'm a terran and didn't felt offended at all, in fact that made me laugh xD
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A lot of zergs upgrade only attack vs terran, not only for lings but for mutas, I don't understand. Mutaling are a lot more durable with carapace upgrades, and as soon has terran has attack upgrade advantage over armor upgrade, the zerg army just melt. But when the zerg has armor advantage over attack, the battles are looking totally different. Mutalisks with critical mass just one shot anything anyway, not that muta atk upgrades are pointless but way less useful than armor vs marines compositions.
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Slush v. Nada is a great match it seems. I'm watching the game on Typhon's and it's just very exciting.
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