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EnE
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
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jacosajh
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On June 19 2012 02:43 EnE wrote: 300 mhz overclock? I'm on a locked phenom II right now and have it clocked up from 2.6 to 3.2 without breaking a sweat. A Core i3 2100 (or 2120, etc) can't be overclocked like a Phenom II. Even using a P67/Z68, I've read of other issuese that more than offset the overclocking gains. Simply put, an overclocked i3 2100 shouldn't be a suggestion. I should've known as soon as you said more cores = more faster = more better that you were an AMD user  | ||
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t0ssboy
Bulgaria681 Posts
MB : ASROCK H61M-ITX, H61, DDR III 1333/1066, VGA, DVI, HDMI, SATA II, USB 3.0, GLAN, eSATA, LGA1155 CPU : PENTIUM DUAL CORE G860, 3.00GHz, 3MB, BOX, LGA1155 GPU : SAPPHIRE 1024M HD6770 DDR 5 HDMI PCI-E RAM : KINGSTON 2 x 2GB DDR III 1333 HyperX is it any better than these pc's.What Settings will sc2 run on it ? tHANKS IN ADVANCE | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On June 19 2012 03:07 t0ssboy wrote: I think i can build a pc with these configs. MB : ASROCK H61M-ITX, H61, DDR III 1333/1066, VGA, DVI, HDMI, SATA II, USB 3.0, GLAN, eSATA, LGA1155 CPU : PENTIUM DUAL CORE G860, 3.00GHz, 3MB, BOX, LGA1155 GPU : SAPPHIRE 1024M HD6770 DDR 5 HDMI PCI-E RAM : KINGSTON 2 x 2GB DDR III 1333 HyperX is it any better than these pc's.What Settings will sc2 run on it ? tHANKS IN ADVANCE Between high and ultra. It's an excellent cheap config. | ||
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t0ssboy
Bulgaria681 Posts
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jacosajh
2919 Posts
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=404 The HD 5770 is about the most you'd need for SC2 at 1080p. Lag is a relative term (all CPUs will stutter at times for SC2), but no you won't have problem running SC2 200/200 on that configuration. It should run everything comfortably at Ultra or near Ultra depending on your expectations. | ||
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t0ssboy
Bulgaria681 Posts
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jacosajh
2919 Posts
What you could do is get a cheaper graphics card and play on a lower resolution/settings, and bump up your CPU to a quad core. This would make more sense than lowering all of your gameplay AND stream settings. At least this way, all you would lose out on is the graphics-end. You would be able to stream BW on a G860 fairly well though. | ||
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Damnight
Germany222 Posts
Either the first (most likely) or the sencond. It really depnds on the processor for sc2. But to be honest, you´ll not be very happy in a few years with those pc´s. so here´s a little heads up on what I would look for: (p.s.: I hope it helps :/ ) fyi minimum requierments are: DIrectX9 OS 2,6 GHz Pentium 4 or equivalent 128MB PCIe Nvidia Geforce 6600 or Radeon 9800 Pro So how about this: Motherboard: multiple PCIe spots, DDR3, Either AMD (For FX-Series) or Intel Sockets (For Sandybrige-E Series) USB 3.0, S-ATA 3 Graphicscard: The 460GTX from Nvidia is pretty neat and costefficient, or the 6950 is good too (Either of those are way over the necessary, but if you want to play like BF3...). But you can go for older way cheaper cards like the 260GTX or the HD5770! Processor: I highly recommend a good proccesor since SC2 really gets them going (espacially if you want to stream your games at some point). Good Processors are for example FX-8120 (8cores, -> good for streaming and overclocking) or the i7-2600K (Powerful -> good for streaming as well!) Other Hardware: You´ll be fine with normal HDD harddrive, but a SSD brings you faster loading times. As for your memory, g.Skill is a quality brand for DDR3 ram and it´s sponsor for te GSL :D (or was, dunno now) Edit: Pay attention to the socket for the processors, different processor often means different socket. Not all processors fit on all sockets! | ||
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Sovano
United States1503 Posts
On June 19 2012 03:36 t0ssboy wrote: ok last question... As i said im a BW guy so i would love to be able to stream it also will i be able to stream sc2 on lowest settings+music You'll want a quad-core CPU as opposed to a dual-core. That way SC2 won't be so stressed if you are streaming. SC2 only utilizes 2 cores, but put that on top with streaming it's better to have quad instead. But alongside to that you should make sure your internet is good enough to stream as well. No sense in getting a better CPU if your internet is too slow. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On June 19 2012 03:48 Damnight wrote:+ Show Spoiler + To answer the question directly: Either the first (most likely) or the sencond. It really depnds on the processor for sc2. But to be honest, you´ll not be very happy in a few years with those pc´s. so here´s a little heads up on what I would look for: (p.s.: I hope it helps :/ ) fyi minimum requierments are: DIrectX9 OS 2,6 GHz Pentium 4 or equivalent 128MB PCIe Nvidia Geforce 6600 or Radeon 9800 Pro So how about this: Motherboard: multiple PCIe spots, DDR3, Either AMD (For FX-Series) or Intel Sockets (For Sandybrige-E Series) USB 3.0, S-ATA 3 Graphicscard: The 460GTX from Nvidia is pretty neat and costefficient, or the 6950 is good too (Either of those are way over the necessary, but if you want to play like BF3...). But you can go for older way cheaper cards like the 260GTX or the HD5770! Processor: I highly recommend a good proccesor since SC2 really gets them going (espacially if you want to stream your games at some point). Good Processors are for example FX-8120 (8cores, -> good for streaming and overclocking) or the i7-2600K (Powerful -> good for streaming as well!) Other Hardware: You´ll be fine with normal HDD harddrive, but a SSD brings you faster loading times. As for your memory, g.Skill is a quality brand for DDR3 ram and it´s sponsor for te GSL :D (or was, dunno now) Edit: Pay attention to the socket for the processors, different processor often means different socket. Not all processors fit on all sockets! Spoilered to keep the pain and suffering to a minimum. An i7 or FX 8120 for SC2 on a ~$350 budget? Riiight. And of course, since SC2 only uses TWO threads, why would you suggest an i7 or 8120 when an i5 will stream 720p? An SSD? Also not exactly in his budget. Just like multiple PCIe slots. USB 3 and SATA 3 aren't going to have any effect for his budget either. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
That was with case, psu, hdd, processor, mobo, 8gb of ram, graphics card. But NOT windows, keyboard, mouse, speakers, montior. And of course building the computer yourself. Building your own cheap intel g620 rig would be (from the same site) about 325 euros, or about 635 bgn. (same components as above but only 4gb of ram). Now maybe taxes would be lower for you or you can find cheaper components in bulgaria, but should give you about the cost of building your own computer. Now if option III or this: + Show Spoiler + On June 18 2012 22:52 jacosajh wrote: If that CPU is an Intel G630, then yes, this system is going to be your best bet out of all you've listed so far. Yes, (Intel) dual-cores are the most optimal option for SC2. is under your budget and comes with windows, that seems like the way to go for playing smoothly at your budget. But streaming won't really be possible with those computers. If you consider building your own computer, think a bit harder about purpose and budget, and get back to us with where you'd buy from (price list from bulgaria, or a website), what parts you need & dont' need, and we'll help you out with specific part recommendations. In the states I'd probably be recommending you look into buying a used Phenom II x6 rig from someone upgrading, preferably one with considerable overclock potential as a way to keep under budget. But I'm not sure if you have access to a reliable used market. | ||
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FinBenton
Finland870 Posts
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
Your 1055t may not play SC2 as well as, say, an i5-2500k. But it can play SC2 & stream it at the same time about as well as an i5-2500k. Or so I've been told. I don't actually stream myself. I just play SC2 so I bought a g840. But it makes sense... streaming can use the otherwise unused cores. The idea being after SC2 uses up 2 cores, you have 4 spare on the Phenom II x6, vs 2 spare on the i5. The i5 has to steal from the 2 cores running SC2 to power the stream, whereas the Phenom II does not, making up the difference. | ||
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
problem is teamgames, i play on low anyways (i can't appreciate good graphics in RTS, only FPS or RPG), and 2v2 is np, only in 3v3 and 4v4 does it get a bit chopy sometimes (but i don't mind, i almost only play 2v2's now anyways) but i don't understand anyways why people are talking about this now in this thread?? for streaming i5 is just the way to go now, no reason anymore to go phenom2 unless for an "upgrade" | ||
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Sovano
United States1503 Posts
On June 19 2012 07:27 Rachnar wrote: but i don't understand anyways why people are talking about this now in this thread?? for streaming i5 is just the way to go now, no reason anymore to go phenom2 unless for an "upgrade" The thread was derailed over one poster; nothing more than that. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
Edit: Academic anyway. As I pointed out even when I brought it up, even a Phenom II is significantly out of budget for the OP. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On June 19 2012 07:31 MisterFred wrote: *shrug* Jingle or someone was telling me that streaming SC2 was one of the few things where a Phenom II x6 could compete directly with the i5-2500k. And a Phenom II x6 + Asrock 970 was cheaper or the same price as a locked i5 + h61 on hardwareversand.de. Edit: Academic anyway. As I pointed out even when I brought it up, even a Phenom II is significantly out of budget for the OP. I think Myrm, Medrea, Wom, and myself have discussed it as a thought exercise, in particular trying to figure a good way to compare it objectively without a proper test bed. IIRC, the conclusion was that while an i5 may be the better choice for a new build, but if you already have compatible AMD hardware, a Ph2x6 would probably make more sense as an upgrade unless you want to dump i7 money. I don't remember for sure who was in the discussion, though, so don't take my recollection as gospel. | ||
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NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
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