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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
June 02 2011 22:41 GMT
#21
How can you have a secret hidden admin account if you are not an admin anymore ?
lol
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
GeckoVOD
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Germany814 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 22:47:29
June 02 2011 22:45 GMT
#22
He has had sufficient access to add several rights to user accounts when he was CL SA. That he did. Once he uses them, it gets pretty obvious to us that something is wrong. It did take some hours to make the connection between the account and the abuse, since there was more other important work due to the new season. Overall a dumb try attempt to abuse his powers, though I have to admit that the system is anything but perfect when it comes to powers on higher ranks.
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7228 Posts
June 02 2011 22:51 GMT
#23
well....imo he is not stupid for do that,cuz its obvious that all gonna be reversed,imo this case have more secret info
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
June 02 2011 22:52 GMT
#24
Just reading the OP, i'd say that if i were running a team, and someone was like, hey throw in some $$ and we have a tourney, i'd want more concrete info than you've provided in the OP. I'd say you'd be more likely to attract teams if there was already a rule set, maps etc actually set. say you sign your team up and pay the money then the rules come down in a way you dont like, it wouldn't be a happy situation...
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 22:55:32
June 02 2011 22:54 GMT
#25
On June 03 2011 07:45 Gecko[Xp] wrote:
He has had sufficient access to add several rights to user accounts when he was CL SA. That he did. Once he uses them, it gets pretty obvious to us that something is wrong. It did take some hours to make the connection between the account and the abuse, since there was more other important work due to the new season. Overall a dumb try attempt to abuse his powers, though I have to admit that the system is anything but perfect when it comes to powers on higher ranks.


Overall I think you're posting in the wrong place, this is a thread about Champions league and not "iccupCL". I don't care what you think of JoeKim, most people think worse of you. So why do you talk?

On June 03 2011 07:52 Kiante wrote:
Just reading the OP, i'd say that if i were running a team, and someone was like, hey throw in some $$ and we have a tourney, i'd want more concrete info than you've provided in the OP. I'd say you'd be more likely to attract teams if there was already a rule set, maps etc actually set. say you sign your team up and pay the money then the rules come down in a way you dont like, it wouldn't be a happy situation...

I think he wanted to know how people would take it before setting it all up, I'm sure it'll be all done before he takes official sign ups. (Do I need to spoon feed the obvious to everyone?)
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Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
June 02 2011 23:02 GMT
#26
Agreed Eywa, JoeKim was throwing out the idea to get feedback here Kiante... it kind've says it.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
GeckoVOD
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Germany814 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 23:06:43
June 02 2011 23:06 GMT
#27
On June 03 2011 07:54 Eywa- wrote:
Overall I think you're posting in the wrong place, this is a thread about Champions league and not "iccupCL". I don't care what you think of JoeKim, most people think worse of you. So why do you talk?


Someone asked, I answered. But with that all, I would ask myself why I would give money out, when a set of questions are still open:

- where would he play, he can obviously not host this on iCCup with a permanent IP ban, nor can he be really effective doing counter abuse meassures elsewhere
- how I could be sure that my money is ok with him, before today I thought JoeKim might be a little bit crazy, but nothing out of the ordinary - then again he screws clans over for a minor league he more or less doesn't need to care about

I give it to him that he was a really good admin, what was the reason for him having enough rights to do the bullshit he did in the first place. He's able to organize such a league, but I personally wouldn't trust him enough to give away money.

€: it also amuses me since he gave me a speech yesterday about how unfair we treat him.
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 02 2011 23:31 GMT
#28
On June 03 2011 08:06 Gecko[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 07:54 Eywa- wrote:
Overall I think you're posting in the wrong place, this is a thread about Champions league and not "iccupCL". I don't care what you think of JoeKim, most people think worse of you. So why do you talk?


Someone asked, I answered. But with that all, I would ask myself why I would give money out, when a set of questions are still open:

- where would he play, he can obviously not host this on iCCup with a permanent IP ban, nor can he be really effective doing counter abuse meassures elsewhere
- how I could be sure that my money is ok with him, before today I thought JoeKim might be a little bit crazy, but nothing out of the ordinary - then again he screws clans over for a minor league he more or less doesn't need to care about

I give it to him that he was a really good admin, what was the reason for him having enough rights to do the bullshit he did in the first place. He's able to organize such a league, but I personally wouldn't trust him enough to give away money.

€: it also amuses me since he gave me a speech yesterday about how unfair we treat him.


Do you not read? I just fucking posted the reply to Kiante's message in the same fucking post as yours, ALL QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED BEFORE TEAMS PUT MONEY FORTH! Big letters work for ya?

Also, I would ask myself why people would bother reading anything you have to say since you are part of the iccup team and this event could possibly kill off your A/B Divisions of iccupCL. Like seriously, going to have to lay it out on a silver platter for everyone?

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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7228 Posts
June 02 2011 23:37 GMT
#29
On June 03 2011 08:31 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 08:06 Gecko[Xp] wrote:
On June 03 2011 07:54 Eywa- wrote:
Overall I think you're posting in the wrong place, this is a thread about Champions league and not "iccupCL". I don't care what you think of JoeKim, most people think worse of you. So why do you talk?


Someone asked, I answered. But with that all, I would ask myself why I would give money out, when a set of questions are still open:

- where would he play, he can obviously not host this on iCCup with a permanent IP ban, nor can he be really effective doing counter abuse meassures elsewhere
- how I could be sure that my money is ok with him, before today I thought JoeKim might be a little bit crazy, but nothing out of the ordinary - then again he screws clans over for a minor league he more or less doesn't need to care about

I give it to him that he was a really good admin, what was the reason for him having enough rights to do the bullshit he did in the first place. He's able to organize such a league, but I personally wouldn't trust him enough to give away money.

€: it also amuses me since he gave me a speech yesterday about how unfair we treat him.


Do you not read? I just fucking posted the reply to Kiante's message in the same fucking post as yours, ALL QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED BEFORE TEAMS PUT MONEY FORTH! Big letters work for ya?

Also, I would ask myself why people would bother reading anything you have to say since you are part of the iccup team and this event could possibly kill off your A/B Divisions of iccupCL. Like seriously, going to have to lay it out on a silver platter for everyone?



ups,i think u are pretty wrong about this,but only the time will show us ;D also( u talk now like a president,whats happen with u ?
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1753 Posts
June 03 2011 00:02 GMT
#30
Wow this thread got dramatic quickly. Can we keep the discussion specifically about the new proposed league? I understand the need for relevant information, but the following arguments and shit-throwing don't help anything :/ it's become a bit of an odd habit of late, to carry out these sensitive discussions in public view.

Personally, JoeKim, I think really fleshing out the structure of this would be cool, though obviously its gonna take some work. I think it's also worth treating ideas for this as you would treat a beta- talk to clan leaders whom would be willing to participate, as you go along. You end up with a polished idea which will be started up nice and smoothly, along with having plenty of people signing off on the idea right from launch.

That's my thought anyway- new leagues and events would struggle to have long teething processes atm. People want it right first time.
EleGant[AoV]
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 00:15:57
June 03 2011 00:14 GMT
#31
Well put EleGant* (Edit was taking out his real life name)
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
JoeKim
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States608 Posts
June 03 2011 01:10 GMT
#32
i just got home and got a whiff of drama

i'll be posting a blog in a day or two when i decide to care (to deal with it).

most importantly, despite being IP banned on iCCup's server and site, i will still be helping out whoever wants to take on this project.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32282 Posts
June 03 2011 03:08 GMT
#33
This is going nowhere
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