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On May 23 2012 01:18 Robinsa wrote:Since when is TL Open traditional? The first one was run a year ago or so right? ^^ I hope this TSL will be blessed with as good games as the last one. That would be plenty of fun!  Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 01:01 Fijnkonijn wrote:
I really like the possibility of qualifying by points despite the small chance that people could possibly throw a game in the finals of a qualifier because they already have enough points to qualify for the tournament anyway, while their opponent (a friend) does not.
That small chance is nothing though compared to the fact that well performing players can still qualify when unlucky in the finals, so it's worth the chance.
Looking forward to TSL4<3 I dont think youre allowed to play once youre qualified. I belive it was that way last year.
Sorry, maybe I didn't explain myself properly.
Yes, if you win an open you are qualified. But if you have not yet won a qualifier and have done well in previous ones, you could end up playing the finals from a qualifier while you are because of the 100 points you get for second place, qualified at that point (Could obviously only be said near the last few qualifiers). So you could throw the game if you were playing someone who you would like to see in the TSL4. (Because again, with the 100 points for second place you are qualified).
Chance for this happening are rather small however, I'm sure that before the last qualifiers someone has a significant point lead from previous qualifiers he or she played and it's obvious they are qualified without having won a final from the qualifier, they would be excluded from participating for this reason.
Tried explaining a little bit better, lol.
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These are all really fun to play in, and I think I have a much better chance this time around. Looking forward to this 
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whaaaaaa 12 june is still so far away.... Just too excited for this :D
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On May 23 2012 07:23 Fijnkonijn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 01:18 Robinsa wrote:Since when is TL Open traditional? The first one was run a year ago or so right? ^^ I hope this TSL will be blessed with as good games as the last one. That would be plenty of fun! On May 23 2012 01:01 Fijnkonijn wrote:
I really like the possibility of qualifying by points despite the small chance that people could possibly throw a game in the finals of a qualifier because they already have enough points to qualify for the tournament anyway, while their opponent (a friend) does not.
That small chance is nothing though compared to the fact that well performing players can still qualify when unlucky in the finals, so it's worth the chance.
Looking forward to TSL4<3 I dont think youre allowed to play once youre qualified. I belive it was that way last year. Sorry, maybe I didn't explain myself properly. Yes, if you win an open you are qualified. But if you have not yet won a qualifier and have done well in previous ones, you could end up playing the finals from a qualifier while you are because of the 100 points you get for second place, qualified at that point (Could obviously only be said near the last few qualifiers). So you could throw the game if you were playing someone who you would like to see in the TSL4. (Because again, with the 100 points for second place you are qualified). Chance for this happening are rather small however, I'm sure that before the last qualifiers someone has a significant point lead from previous qualifiers he or she played and it's obvious they are qualified without having won a final from the qualifier, they would be excluded from participating for this reason. Tried explaining a little bit better, lol.
The biggest issue raised with the qualifier system last season was the fact that getting second once virtually guaranteed qualification. We examined last seasons qualifier and set about improving it based off of feedback. Last season it was weighted so that Ro2 < 2x Ro4 < 4xRo8, but this season we have that Ro2 < Ro4+Ro8 < 2xRo4 < 3xRo8 which means that its significantly easier to break 100 points in comparison to last season. We hope that this will address the "100 points and in" problem that happened last season.
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Cant wait for this new TSL season. I'm curious if ThorZain can defend his title. ^^;
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Who is going to cast the qualifiers, do you allow for smaller casters to volunteer?
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How do you sign up for the qualifiers :p
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I'm confused, why can't EU tournaments start around 12 am EDT and NA tournaments start at 5pm EDT? Why do many Europeans get to play around 5pm every tournament while NA competitors will play, on average, at 10 am?
Why do both regions have to be at the same time? Just because NA can compete in EU tournaments and EU can compete in the NA tournaments doesn't mean they need start at the same time.
You're essentially saying EU player's best time to compete is 5 pm, yet NA players seem to only be able to play at 10 am? Why can't NA play at 5pm as well?... If 5pm EDT is too late for EU players, maybe make it 4pm, and if that's too late for some, it's probably a very small margin. Let's have 5 tournaments for both regions with the best time slot possible for that region, and then if a player's schedule is flexible, they can join a EU tournament that's 11 am EDT, or a NA tournament that's 5pm EDT.
We're gamers, if someone can't stay up until 12-1 am to play, but can make a 10-11 am tournament, something's wrong 
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Blows my mind that you couldn't added at least one or two qualifiers on the weekend. I get that you want professional players to have a chance, but if you looked at the upcoming event schedule...there were a few weekends you could of scheduled tournaments on.
Oh well. So much for getting new players into the scene -.-
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Ew. I'd rather have one of the older maps in the place of Korhal Compound or Entombed Valley, I hate both those maps.
But yeah, how do you sign up for the qualifier? I'd give it a shot, there's no chance in hell I'd make it but I just want to see how close I can get.
That said, hoping ThorZain wins again or some random scrub comes and beats all the good players just like TSL3
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Ahh Metropolis 
But it's awesome
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Why are all the qualifiers during school/work hours?
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How do we sign up? I can't figure out how.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Signing up will be done TLOpen style. As in, we'll create separate sign ups for each event which you can register to attend. These will be done closer to the date
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Decision to change the points works out very well, even though I would have reduced the points on second place by a small margin as well.
I took a test in an excel sheet (PM if you want me to host it) and it raised the cut off points to 141 points instead of the 103 at TSL3. I simply took the old qualifiers but used the new scoring system.
With regards to the playing field that would have only made 1 difference (SeleCT would have qualified instead of ZeeRaX) but the seeding for the main bracket would have been very different.
In the old ranking you had TLO > Ciara/MorroW (how did that tiebreaker get resolved?) > Goody > Adelscott/Fenix (tied) > Zeerax > Strelok.
In the new ranking you have MorroW > TLO > Strelok > Fenix > Ciara > SeleCT > Goody > Adelscott.
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Now the most important thing: In the new system you have 21 man breaking 100 points, instead of 10. This very much shows that the system worked in making finishing 2nd less valuable.
Quick facts about the other scoring system:
- You'd have had Nada-Morrow as Ro32 matchup
- You'd also have had MC-TLO or Jinro-TLO, depending on the tie breaker (old situation had a tie)
- KiWiKaKi just missed out on qualifying, ending on 136 points
- KiWiKaKi and dde are by far the most consistent players, scoring points at 6 qualifiers.
- You can still get in by scoring at only 2 qualifiers (Adelscott did it), however you have to make the finals once and get to Ro8 the other time. This is an improvement as before ZeeRax also qualified with a Ro16 and a second place, however this time he didn't make it.
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So when can you sign up for the tournaments?
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Been looking around for the rules but not been able to find them. Have they been released yet or am I just blind? :D
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They're on Tuesday and Wednesday... all of them...
Welp, after I get out of camp I'll make weeks 4 and 5 so glhf
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6:00pm EEST what time is it in CET?
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