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Solio
Profile Joined June 2016
France145 Posts
December 27 2019 17:33 GMT
#21
On December 26 2019 17:43 tigon_ridge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2019 16:20 fgonzo wrote:
To put it honestly, Innovation embarrassed the shit out of Serral... just like Maru did the year prior.

Innovation barely managed to eke out a win against Serral in that tournament. Serral was the better player in that tournament, but Inno's top10 level skill allowed him a small window of opportunity, and he managed to squeeze through it, despite suffering a couple rib fractures in the process with 3 map losses in the grand final. It was hardly an embarrassment for Serral.


Innovation was the best player in that tournament*

Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
December 28 2019 06:05 GMT
#22
On December 26 2019 17:43 tigon_ridge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2019 16:20 fgonzo wrote:
To put it honestly, Innovation embarrassed the shit out of Serral... just like Maru did the year prior.

Innovation barely managed to eke out a win against Serral in that tournament. Serral was the better player in that tournament, but Inno's top10 level skill allowed him a small window of opportunity, and he managed to squeeze through it, despite suffering a couple rib fractures in the process with 3 map losses in the grand final. It was hardly an embarrassment for Serral.


fgonzo is obviously a troll but I'm not really sure why you'd think Serral was the stronger player in the tournament. In general, he is stronger, but in this one tournament, I don't think so. Innovation went 23-5 while Serral went 20-9, dropping a series to Neeb along the way. Serral had a tougher groupstage but an easier bracket imo.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-28 10:57:09
December 28 2019 10:50 GMT
#23
On December 28 2019 15:05 Anc13nt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2019 17:43 tigon_ridge wrote:
On December 26 2019 16:20 fgonzo wrote:
To put it honestly, Innovation embarrassed the shit out of Serral... just like Maru did the year prior.

Innovation barely managed to eke out a win against Serral in that tournament. Serral was the better player in that tournament, but Inno's top10 level skill allowed him a small window of opportunity, and he managed to squeeze through it, despite suffering a couple rib fractures in the process with 3 map losses in the grand final. It was hardly an embarrassment for Serral.


fgonzo is obviously a troll but I'm not really sure why you'd think Serral was the stronger player in the tournament. In general, he is stronger, but in this one tournament, I don't think so. Innovation went 23-5 while Serral went 20-9, dropping a series to Neeb along the way. Serral had a tougher groupstage but an easier bracket imo.

Serral played Mana, Dark, Scarlett and Inno. Inno played Rail, Lambo, Maru and Serral. If anything, they both ended up on the better side of the bracket for them. But I'd say Serral's opponents were stronger overall and the bracket in general worked out extremely favorably for Inno. If you switched Serral and Inno around in the bracket I don't think Inno gets past Dark.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4408 Posts
December 28 2019 18:27 GMT
#24
On December 28 2019 19:50 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2019 15:05 Anc13nt wrote:
On December 26 2019 17:43 tigon_ridge wrote:
On December 26 2019 16:20 fgonzo wrote:
To put it honestly, Innovation embarrassed the shit out of Serral... just like Maru did the year prior.

Innovation barely managed to eke out a win against Serral in that tournament. Serral was the better player in that tournament, but Inno's top10 level skill allowed him a small window of opportunity, and he managed to squeeze through it, despite suffering a couple rib fractures in the process with 3 map losses in the grand final. It was hardly an embarrassment for Serral.


fgonzo is obviously a troll but I'm not really sure why you'd think Serral was the stronger player in the tournament. In general, he is stronger, but in this one tournament, I don't think so. Innovation went 23-5 while Serral went 20-9, dropping a series to Neeb along the way. Serral had a tougher groupstage but an easier bracket imo.

Serral played Mana, Dark, Scarlett and Inno. Inno played Rail, Lambo, Maru and Serral. If anything, they both ended up on the better side of the bracket for them. But I'd say Serral's opponents were stronger overall and the bracket in general worked out extremely favorably for Inno. If you switched Serral and Inno around in the bracket I don't think Inno gets past Dark.


In that scenario we would have gotten a Maru Dark finals. That would've been nice.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-28 19:16:06
December 28 2019 19:15 GMT
#25
On December 29 2019 03:27 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2019 19:50 Elentos wrote:
On December 28 2019 15:05 Anc13nt wrote:
On December 26 2019 17:43 tigon_ridge wrote:
On December 26 2019 16:20 fgonzo wrote:
To put it honestly, Innovation embarrassed the shit out of Serral... just like Maru did the year prior.

Innovation barely managed to eke out a win against Serral in that tournament. Serral was the better player in that tournament, but Inno's top10 level skill allowed him a small window of opportunity, and he managed to squeeze through it, despite suffering a couple rib fractures in the process with 3 map losses in the grand final. It was hardly an embarrassment for Serral.


fgonzo is obviously a troll but I'm not really sure why you'd think Serral was the stronger player in the tournament. In general, he is stronger, but in this one tournament, I don't think so. Innovation went 23-5 while Serral went 20-9, dropping a series to Neeb along the way. Serral had a tougher groupstage but an easier bracket imo.

Serral played Mana, Dark, Scarlett and Inno. Inno played Rail, Lambo, Maru and Serral. If anything, they both ended up on the better side of the bracket for them. But I'd say Serral's opponents were stronger overall and the bracket in general worked out extremely favorably for Inno. If you switched Serral and Inno around in the bracket I don't think Inno gets past Dark.


In that scenario we would have gotten a Maru Dark finals. That would've been nice.


Thinking Maru would have beaten Serral...it's more likely that Maru would have tried hard not to advance past Neeb if he had to face Serral next.
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
December 29 2019 22:38 GMT
#26
great article, thanks.
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
The Taxman
Profile Joined July 2018
37 Posts
January 03 2020 20:41 GMT
#27
Great reading, thoroughly enjoyed it.
Gomas
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Poland312 Posts
January 04 2020 02:09 GMT
#28
inno!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ZigguratOfMesomerica
Profile Joined January 2020
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-06 17:14:14
January 06 2020 17:11 GMT
#29
So, I basically created an account to say this, 'cause the opinion isn't going to be very popular, especially among Serral and Maru worshippers. I watched the whole of IEM Katowice, and I saw Serral crack mentally during the series with Innovation. Of course soO had to do his part, but it was Inno who won the battle of minds for him. This is something Maru couldn't do. There is something that happened between WESG/IEM in Serral's psyche that made him question himself for the first time after winning WCS2018. Innovation is the invisible reason for the fact that soO, Stats, and Dark won the major international events of 2019. Otherwise, it would have been a straight second sweep.
ZigguratOfMesomerica
Profile Joined January 2020
3 Posts
January 06 2020 17:15 GMT
#30
On January 07 2020 02:11 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:
So, I basically created an account to say this, 'cause the opinion isn't going to be very popular, especially among Serral and Maru worshippers. I watched the whole of IEM Katowice, and I saw Serral crack mentally during the series with Innovation. Of course soO had to do his part, but it was Inno who won the battle of minds for him. This is something Maru couldn't do. There is something that happened between WESG/IEM in Serral's psyche that made him question himself for the first time after winning WCS2018. Innovation is the invisible reason for the fact that soO, Stats, and Dark won the major international events of 2019. Otherwise, it would have been a straight second sweep.


If I didn't already dislike you I would be less inclined to reconsider the merits of your opinion.
ZigguratOfMesomerica
Profile Joined January 2020
3 Posts
January 06 2020 17:17 GMT
#31
On January 07 2020 02:15 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2020 02:11 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:
So, I basically created an account to say this, 'cause the opinion isn't going to be very popular, especially among Serral and Maru worshippers. I watched the whole of IEM Katowice, and I saw Serral crack mentally during the series with Innovation. Of course soO had to do his part, but it was Inno who won the battle of minds for him. This is something Maru couldn't do. There is something that happened between WESG/IEM in Serral's psyche that made him question himself for the first time after winning WCS2018. Innovation is the invisible reason for the fact that soO, Stats, and Dark won the major international events of 2019. Otherwise, it would have been a straight second sweep.


If I didn't already dislike you I would be less inclined to reconsider the merits of your opinion.


How about u chill and play a game of SCII.

User was banned for this post.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
January 06 2020 17:22 GMT
#32
On January 07 2020 02:17 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2020 02:15 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:
On January 07 2020 02:11 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:
So, I basically created an account to say this, 'cause the opinion isn't going to be very popular, especially among Serral and Maru worshippers. I watched the whole of IEM Katowice, and I saw Serral crack mentally during the series with Innovation. Of course soO had to do his part, but it was Inno who won the battle of minds for him. This is something Maru couldn't do. There is something that happened between WESG/IEM in Serral's psyche that made him question himself for the first time after winning WCS2018. Innovation is the invisible reason for the fact that soO, Stats, and Dark won the major international events of 2019. Otherwise, it would have been a straight second sweep.


If I didn't already dislike you I would be less inclined to reconsider the merits of your opinion.


How about u chill and play a game of SCII.

What the fuck am I looking at
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7113 Posts
January 06 2020 17:23 GMT
#33
On January 07 2020 02:22 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2020 02:17 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:
On January 07 2020 02:15 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:
On January 07 2020 02:11 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:
So, I basically created an account to say this, 'cause the opinion isn't going to be very popular, especially among Serral and Maru worshippers. I watched the whole of IEM Katowice, and I saw Serral crack mentally during the series with Innovation. Of course soO had to do his part, but it was Inno who won the battle of minds for him. This is something Maru couldn't do. There is something that happened between WESG/IEM in Serral's psyche that made him question himself for the first time after winning WCS2018. Innovation is the invisible reason for the fact that soO, Stats, and Dark won the major international events of 2019. Otherwise, it would have been a straight second sweep.


If I didn't already dislike you I would be less inclined to reconsider the merits of your opinion.


How about u chill and play a game of SCII.

What the fuck am I looking at

Drugs. A lot of them.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
January 06 2020 17:35 GMT
#34
On January 07 2020 02:23 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2020 02:22 Elentos wrote:
On January 07 2020 02:17 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:
On January 07 2020 02:15 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:
On January 07 2020 02:11 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:
So, I basically created an account to say this, 'cause the opinion isn't going to be very popular, especially among Serral and Maru worshippers. I watched the whole of IEM Katowice, and I saw Serral crack mentally during the series with Innovation. Of course soO had to do his part, but it was Inno who won the battle of minds for him. This is something Maru couldn't do. There is something that happened between WESG/IEM in Serral's psyche that made him question himself for the first time after winning WCS2018. Innovation is the invisible reason for the fact that soO, Stats, and Dark won the major international events of 2019. Otherwise, it would have been a straight second sweep.


If I didn't already dislike you I would be less inclined to reconsider the merits of your opinion.


How about u chill and play a game of SCII.

What the fuck am I looking at

Drugs. A lot of them.


huh.....
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25565 Posts
January 06 2020 17:41 GMT
#35
And I thought I was a bad drunk poster...
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
January 06 2020 17:51 GMT
#36
On January 07 2020 02:23 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2020 02:22 Elentos wrote:
On January 07 2020 02:17 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:
On January 07 2020 02:15 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:
On January 07 2020 02:11 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:
So, I basically created an account to say this, 'cause the opinion isn't going to be very popular, especially among Serral and Maru worshippers. I watched the whole of IEM Katowice, and I saw Serral crack mentally during the series with Innovation. Of course soO had to do his part, but it was Inno who won the battle of minds for him. This is something Maru couldn't do. There is something that happened between WESG/IEM in Serral's psyche that made him question himself for the first time after winning WCS2018. Innovation is the invisible reason for the fact that soO, Stats, and Dark won the major international events of 2019. Otherwise, it would have been a straight second sweep.


If I didn't already dislike you I would be less inclined to reconsider the merits of your opinion.


How about u chill and play a game of SCII.

What the fuck am I looking at

Drugs. A lot of them.

You of all people would know about that
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
January 06 2020 17:59 GMT
#37
Can they also play all three races at the same time?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-06 18:05:35
January 06 2020 18:05 GMT
#38
If I report him do I get 3 warning in my stats?
IDK if self BM break a rule tho...
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