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On December 26 2019 17:43 tigon_ridge wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2019 16:20 fgonzo wrote:
To put it honestly, Innovation embarrassed the shit out of Serral... just like Maru did the year prior. Innovation barely managed to eke out a win against Serral in that tournament. Serral was the better player in that tournament, but Inno's top10 level skill allowed him a small window of opportunity, and he managed to squeeze through it, despite suffering a couple rib fractures in the process with 3 map losses in the grand final. It was hardly an embarrassment for Serral.
Innovation was the best player in that tournament*
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On December 26 2019 17:43 tigon_ridge wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2019 16:20 fgonzo wrote:
To put it honestly, Innovation embarrassed the shit out of Serral... just like Maru did the year prior. Innovation barely managed to eke out a win against Serral in that tournament. Serral was the better player in that tournament, but Inno's top10 level skill allowed him a small window of opportunity, and he managed to squeeze through it, despite suffering a couple rib fractures in the process with 3 map losses in the grand final. It was hardly an embarrassment for Serral.
fgonzo is obviously a troll but I'm not really sure why you'd think Serral was the stronger player in the tournament. In general, he is stronger, but in this one tournament, I don't think so. Innovation went 23-5 while Serral went 20-9, dropping a series to Neeb along the way. Serral had a tougher groupstage but an easier bracket imo.
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On December 28 2019 15:05 Anc13nt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2019 17:43 tigon_ridge wrote:On December 26 2019 16:20 fgonzo wrote:
To put it honestly, Innovation embarrassed the shit out of Serral... just like Maru did the year prior. Innovation barely managed to eke out a win against Serral in that tournament. Serral was the better player in that tournament, but Inno's top10 level skill allowed him a small window of opportunity, and he managed to squeeze through it, despite suffering a couple rib fractures in the process with 3 map losses in the grand final. It was hardly an embarrassment for Serral. fgonzo is obviously a troll but I'm not really sure why you'd think Serral was the stronger player in the tournament. In general, he is stronger, but in this one tournament, I don't think so. Innovation went 23-5 while Serral went 20-9, dropping a series to Neeb along the way. Serral had a tougher groupstage but an easier bracket imo.
Serral played Mana, Dark, Scarlett and Inno. Inno played Rail, Lambo, Maru and Serral. If anything, they both ended up on the better side of the bracket for them. But I'd say Serral's opponents were stronger overall and the bracket in general worked out extremely favorably for Inno. If you switched Serral and Inno around in the bracket I don't think Inno gets past Dark.
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On December 28 2019 19:50 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2019 15:05 Anc13nt wrote:On December 26 2019 17:43 tigon_ridge wrote:On December 26 2019 16:20 fgonzo wrote:
To put it honestly, Innovation embarrassed the shit out of Serral... just like Maru did the year prior. Innovation barely managed to eke out a win against Serral in that tournament. Serral was the better player in that tournament, but Inno's top10 level skill allowed him a small window of opportunity, and he managed to squeeze through it, despite suffering a couple rib fractures in the process with 3 map losses in the grand final. It was hardly an embarrassment for Serral. fgonzo is obviously a troll but I'm not really sure why you'd think Serral was the stronger player in the tournament. In general, he is stronger, but in this one tournament, I don't think so. Innovation went 23-5 while Serral went 20-9, dropping a series to Neeb along the way. Serral had a tougher groupstage but an easier bracket imo. Serral played Mana, Dark, Scarlett and Inno. Inno played Rail, Lambo, Maru and Serral. If anything, they both ended up on the better side of the bracket for them. But I'd say Serral's opponents were stronger overall and the bracket in general worked out extremely favorably for Inno. If you switched Serral and Inno around in the bracket I don't think Inno gets past Dark.
In that scenario we would have gotten a Maru Dark finals. That would've been nice.
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On December 29 2019 03:27 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2019 19:50 Elentos wrote:On December 28 2019 15:05 Anc13nt wrote:On December 26 2019 17:43 tigon_ridge wrote:On December 26 2019 16:20 fgonzo wrote:
To put it honestly, Innovation embarrassed the shit out of Serral... just like Maru did the year prior. Innovation barely managed to eke out a win against Serral in that tournament. Serral was the better player in that tournament, but Inno's top10 level skill allowed him a small window of opportunity, and he managed to squeeze through it, despite suffering a couple rib fractures in the process with 3 map losses in the grand final. It was hardly an embarrassment for Serral. fgonzo is obviously a troll but I'm not really sure why you'd think Serral was the stronger player in the tournament. In general, he is stronger, but in this one tournament, I don't think so. Innovation went 23-5 while Serral went 20-9, dropping a series to Neeb along the way. Serral had a tougher groupstage but an easier bracket imo. Serral played Mana, Dark, Scarlett and Inno. Inno played Rail, Lambo, Maru and Serral. If anything, they both ended up on the better side of the bracket for them. But I'd say Serral's opponents were stronger overall and the bracket in general worked out extremely favorably for Inno. If you switched Serral and Inno around in the bracket I don't think Inno gets past Dark. In that scenario we would have gotten a Maru Dark finals. That would've been nice.
Thinking Maru would have beaten Serral...it's more likely that Maru would have tried hard not to advance past Neeb if he had to face Serral next.
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Great reading, thoroughly enjoyed it.
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So, I basically created an account to say this, 'cause the opinion isn't going to be very popular, especially among Serral and Maru worshippers. I watched the whole of IEM Katowice, and I saw Serral crack mentally during the series with Innovation. Of course soO had to do his part, but it was Inno who won the battle of minds for him. This is something Maru couldn't do. There is something that happened between WESG/IEM in Serral's psyche that made him question himself for the first time after winning WCS2018. Innovation is the invisible reason for the fact that soO, Stats, and Dark won the major international events of 2019. Otherwise, it would have been a straight second sweep.
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On January 07 2020 02:11 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:
So, I basically created an account to say this, 'cause the opinion isn't going to be very popular, especially among Serral and Maru worshippers. I watched the whole of IEM Katowice, and I saw Serral crack mentally during the series with Innovation. Of course soO had to do his part, but it was Inno who won the battle of minds for him. This is something Maru couldn't do. There is something that happened between WESG/IEM in Serral's psyche that made him question himself for the first time after winning WCS2018. Innovation is the invisible reason for the fact that soO, Stats, and Dark won the major international events of 2019. Otherwise, it would have been a straight second sweep.
If I didn't already dislike you I would be less inclined to reconsider the merits of your opinion.
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On January 07 2020 02:15 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2020 02:11 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:
So, I basically created an account to say this, 'cause the opinion isn't going to be very popular, especially among Serral and Maru worshippers. I watched the whole of IEM Katowice, and I saw Serral crack mentally during the series with Innovation. Of course soO had to do his part, but it was Inno who won the battle of minds for him. This is something Maru couldn't do. There is something that happened between WESG/IEM in Serral's psyche that made him question himself for the first time after winning WCS2018. Innovation is the invisible reason for the fact that soO, Stats, and Dark won the major international events of 2019. Otherwise, it would have been a straight second sweep. If I didn't already dislike you I would be less inclined to reconsider the merits of your opinion.
How about u chill and play a game of SCII.
User was banned for this post.
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On January 07 2020 02:17 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2020 02:15 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:On January 07 2020 02:11 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:
So, I basically created an account to say this, 'cause the opinion isn't going to be very popular, especially among Serral and Maru worshippers. I watched the whole of IEM Katowice, and I saw Serral crack mentally during the series with Innovation. Of course soO had to do his part, but it was Inno who won the battle of minds for him. This is something Maru couldn't do. There is something that happened between WESG/IEM in Serral's psyche that made him question himself for the first time after winning WCS2018. Innovation is the invisible reason for the fact that soO, Stats, and Dark won the major international events of 2019. Otherwise, it would have been a straight second sweep. If I didn't already dislike you I would be less inclined to reconsider the merits of your opinion. How about u chill and play a game of SCII.
What the fuck am I looking at
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On January 07 2020 02:22 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2020 02:17 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:On January 07 2020 02:15 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:On January 07 2020 02:11 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:
So, I basically created an account to say this, 'cause the opinion isn't going to be very popular, especially among Serral and Maru worshippers. I watched the whole of IEM Katowice, and I saw Serral crack mentally during the series with Innovation. Of course soO had to do his part, but it was Inno who won the battle of minds for him. This is something Maru couldn't do. There is something that happened between WESG/IEM in Serral's psyche that made him question himself for the first time after winning WCS2018. Innovation is the invisible reason for the fact that soO, Stats, and Dark won the major international events of 2019. Otherwise, it would have been a straight second sweep. If I didn't already dislike you I would be less inclined to reconsider the merits of your opinion. How about u chill and play a game of SCII. What the fuck am I looking at
Drugs. A lot of them.
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On January 07 2020 02:23 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2020 02:22 Elentos wrote:On January 07 2020 02:17 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:On January 07 2020 02:15 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:On January 07 2020 02:11 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:
So, I basically created an account to say this, 'cause the opinion isn't going to be very popular, especially among Serral and Maru worshippers. I watched the whole of IEM Katowice, and I saw Serral crack mentally during the series with Innovation. Of course soO had to do his part, but it was Inno who won the battle of minds for him. This is something Maru couldn't do. There is something that happened between WESG/IEM in Serral's psyche that made him question himself for the first time after winning WCS2018. Innovation is the invisible reason for the fact that soO, Stats, and Dark won the major international events of 2019. Otherwise, it would have been a straight second sweep. If I didn't already dislike you I would be less inclined to reconsider the merits of your opinion. How about u chill and play a game of SCII. What the fuck am I looking at Drugs. A lot of them.
huh.....
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And I thought I was a bad drunk poster...
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On January 07 2020 02:23 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2020 02:22 Elentos wrote:On January 07 2020 02:17 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:On January 07 2020 02:15 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:On January 07 2020 02:11 ZigguratOfMesomerica wrote:
So, I basically created an account to say this, 'cause the opinion isn't going to be very popular, especially among Serral and Maru worshippers. I watched the whole of IEM Katowice, and I saw Serral crack mentally during the series with Innovation. Of course soO had to do his part, but it was Inno who won the battle of minds for him. This is something Maru couldn't do. There is something that happened between WESG/IEM in Serral's psyche that made him question himself for the first time after winning WCS2018. Innovation is the invisible reason for the fact that soO, Stats, and Dark won the major international events of 2019. Otherwise, it would have been a straight second sweep. If I didn't already dislike you I would be less inclined to reconsider the merits of your opinion. How about u chill and play a game of SCII. What the fuck am I looking at Drugs. A lot of them.
You of all people would know about that 
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Can they also play all three races at the same time?
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If I report him do I get 3 warning in my stats?
IDK if self BM break a rule tho...
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