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Dark and Jin Air trio head to Code S semis - Page 2

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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
September 11 2019 21:40 GMT
#21
On September 12 2019 06:22 Dave4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2019 06:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
On September 12 2019 05:59 Dave4 wrote:
On September 12 2019 05:53 Wombat_NI wrote:
I hope Trap wins this season personally, feels play wise he’s absolutely up there as if not the best Toss then very close, but that GSL win would really give him the prestige that Classic and Stats have

Yeah I'd say his form is ahead of Classic at the moment, probably not Stats. In terms of overall achievements though, one GSL wouldn't put him level with those guys who have a plethora of gold and silver between them. I think he would need at least two.

Don't forget people like Seed and Jjakji have won a single GSL! With a bit of bracket luck and a spell of good form anyone can win one tournament but the true champions in my eyes are those who keep consistently reasserting themselves.

*That said, he is on a good track. Back to back finals would certainly be a great achievement for him. I do think the Jin Air situation is highly favourable to prep style tournaments but that doesn't take away that he is certainly cementing himself as the number 1 protoss on that team now.

I don’t think winning a sole GSL would elevate Trap to the level of those two in historic terms, but it would definitely help in giving him the recognition he deserves as Protoss players in 2019 go at least.

It’s weird listening to casts and it’s consistently Stats hype and Classic hype with Trap barely given a mention, they’ve all had their moments this year. Trap is a really well rounded Protoss and an absolutely PvT monster.

Yeah I know what you mean. I think it's just because the other two have both won tournaments this year, but certainly trap is in the mix now especially after last season. Agree his PvT in particular is very good so it'll be an interesting semi. I could see him beating Maru but I would favour the zergs in the final.


Trap left behind any shade of mediocrity in 2019, a Cods S title would be testament to his new dimension of top player; I'll root for him, personally.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
September 11 2019 21:42 GMT
#22
On September 12 2019 06:22 Dave4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2019 06:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
On September 12 2019 05:59 Dave4 wrote:
On September 12 2019 05:53 Wombat_NI wrote:
I hope Trap wins this season personally, feels play wise he’s absolutely up there as if not the best Toss then very close, but that GSL win would really give him the prestige that Classic and Stats have

Yeah I'd say his form is ahead of Classic at the moment, probably not Stats. In terms of overall achievements though, one GSL wouldn't put him level with those guys who have a plethora of gold and silver between them. I think he would need at least two.

Don't forget people like Seed and Jjakji have won a single GSL! With a bit of bracket luck and a spell of good form anyone can win one tournament but the true champions in my eyes are those who keep consistently reasserting themselves.

*That said, he is on a good track. Back to back finals would certainly be a great achievement for him. I do think the Jin Air situation is highly favourable to prep style tournaments but that doesn't take away that he is certainly cementing himself as the number 1 protoss on that team now.

I don’t think winning a sole GSL would elevate Trap to the level of those two in historic terms, but it would definitely help in giving him the recognition he deserves as Protoss players in 2019 go at least.

It’s weird listening to casts and it’s consistently Stats hype and Classic hype with Trap barely given a mention, they’ve all had their moments this year. Trap is a really well rounded Protoss and an absolutely PvT monster.

Yeah I know what you mean. I think it's just because the other two have both won tournaments this year, but certainly trap is in the mix now especially after last season. Agree his PvT in particular is very good so it'll be an interesting semi. I could see him beating Maru but I would favour the zergs in the final.

I think best option for Trap is Dark wins so that Rogue can help him prep. My only good prediction of the year was that Trap would have a good run last season, as JAGW were all eliminated and could aid his prep, plus he’s good anyway.

That said it wasn’t quite enough last time and Dark beat him pretty convincingly, and tbh I think factoring meta changes as well as people figuring stuff out that PvZ looks pretty brutal in a Bo5 right now never mind a Bo7
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
LUK_21
Profile Joined July 2018
8 Posts
September 11 2019 21:43 GMT
#23
Trap got this !!! season 1 third, season 2 second and season 3 first place
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
September 11 2019 21:51 GMT
#24
This top 4 is looking killer~! I can't wait for these matches
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Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
September 11 2019 22:15 GMT
#25
On September 12 2019 06:42 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2019 06:22 Dave4 wrote:
On September 12 2019 06:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
On September 12 2019 05:59 Dave4 wrote:
On September 12 2019 05:53 Wombat_NI wrote:
I hope Trap wins this season personally, feels play wise he’s absolutely up there as if not the best Toss then very close, but that GSL win would really give him the prestige that Classic and Stats have

Yeah I'd say his form is ahead of Classic at the moment, probably not Stats. In terms of overall achievements though, one GSL wouldn't put him level with those guys who have a plethora of gold and silver between them. I think he would need at least two.

Don't forget people like Seed and Jjakji have won a single GSL! With a bit of bracket luck and a spell of good form anyone can win one tournament but the true champions in my eyes are those who keep consistently reasserting themselves.

*That said, he is on a good track. Back to back finals would certainly be a great achievement for him. I do think the Jin Air situation is highly favourable to prep style tournaments but that doesn't take away that he is certainly cementing himself as the number 1 protoss on that team now.

I don’t think winning a sole GSL would elevate Trap to the level of those two in historic terms, but it would definitely help in giving him the recognition he deserves as Protoss players in 2019 go at least.

It’s weird listening to casts and it’s consistently Stats hype and Classic hype with Trap barely given a mention, they’ve all had their moments this year. Trap is a really well rounded Protoss and an absolutely PvT monster.

Yeah I know what you mean. I think it's just because the other two have both won tournaments this year, but certainly trap is in the mix now especially after last season. Agree his PvT in particular is very good so it'll be an interesting semi. I could see him beating Maru but I would favour the zergs in the final.

I think best option for Trap is Dark wins so that Rogue can help him prep. My only good prediction of the year was that Trap would have a good run last season, as JAGW were all eliminated and could aid his prep, plus he’s good anyway.

That said it wasn’t quite enough last time and Dark beat him pretty convincingly, and tbh I think factoring meta changes as well as people figuring stuff out that PvZ looks pretty brutal in a Bo5 right now never mind a Bo7

Yeah, I would give Dark the edge still in the finals especially with current meta (although Dark doesn't really play broodlords much so maybe that will be less of a factor).

It would be interesting to see a back-to-back finals rematch, I don't think that's ever happened before?
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37058 Posts
September 11 2019 22:57 GMT
#26
On September 12 2019 06:38 SamirDuran wrote:
Wtf i read "Dark to Jin Air"

Makes total sense. If Jin Air signs Dark, then they have a 100% chance of having a GSL champion for this season.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4959 Posts
September 12 2019 00:01 GMT
#27
On September 12 2019 07:57 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2019 06:38 SamirDuran wrote:
Wtf i read "Dark to Jin Air"

Makes total sense. If Jin Air signs Dark, then they have a 100% chance of having a GSL champion for this season.


They dont need that, they have the MARU
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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freaquency88
Profile Joined July 2019
Malaysia14 Posts
September 12 2019 00:15 GMT
#28
Thinking about the possibilities of a finals between Maru/Dark, Rogue/Trap, Maru/Rogue, Dark/Trap. My mind is blowing up!
Zest is beast, Zest is best!
burnturn
Profile Joined December 2015
United States59 Posts
September 12 2019 01:26 GMT
#29
Somehow, despite his best efforts to throw it, Rogue made it to the semis. Hoping for a Dark vs. Maru finals but I think that Rogue has a really good chance to go to the finals.
sOs is best
RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
September 12 2019 01:26 GMT
#30
Maru beat Rogue and win the title.
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
jahnesta
Profile Joined February 2014
France62 Posts
September 12 2019 01:42 GMT
#31
Now Rogue, please remember 2017 and turn on God mode !
Stephano Life Jaedong TRUE Rogue
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States880 Posts
September 12 2019 02:37 GMT
#32
Hard to doubt Maru at this point. I can see either zerg putting up a fight against him at least... but I think he crushes Trap
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
TanksALot
Profile Joined December 2002
United States153 Posts
September 12 2019 03:30 GMT
#33
God damn that Maru/Ragnarok series was SICK
Big up
derkopf
Profile Joined July 2004
Germany83 Posts
September 12 2019 06:29 GMT
#34
Very wired title. I hope to see Dark(and his topgame!) vs Maru in the final, where Maru will win .
evanreyes94
Profile Joined March 2019
Finland42 Posts
September 12 2019 06:51 GMT
#35
Dark proving that you don't need BL/Infestors to win games. Not sure why some people make the excuse that Zerg absolutely can never win games without this composition. Zerg can and does win games without it.
Veluvian
Profile Joined December 2011
Bulgaria256 Posts
September 12 2019 07:36 GMT
#36
Many Maru fans would disagree, but I got the feeling that Ragnarok just stopped playing in the last two matches despite the promising start. By "stopped" I mean LITERALLY. After Ragnarok mutated lots of brood lords he either had no idea what to do with them or may be his head had just overheated. He did some godlike moves in the very start of the whole game and then what... Maru played so comfortable without any form of tease or attack in the end in his base, of course in this scenario he will look unstoppable by building 6 - 7 atomic bombs... why those beautiful double nyduses just... stopped!!! Dark or any other top zerg would switch to a new army composition when he sees an obvious sky mass liberator/viking/BC terran. I don't think that Ragnarok has a lack of skill because he really started seriously and we got some Nestea vibes in some situations.
Maru of course looked extraordinary again. I can't blame him in anything, he is a pro and is doing his job as best as he can. But honestly most of the Code S players don't show the skill of a real pro back in the real pro days in team houses and especially back in the gold BW classical era. Damn, Zest did some pathetic moves against Rogue, the guy who invented the PvZ from HotS era as we know it...
Oz; MMA; Rain; sOs; Classic, Soulkey, TY, Dark
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
September 12 2019 08:26 GMT
#37
Hope for a Trap Dark rematch in the Finals, where Trap wins this time. But I doubt that Dark can win against a top 5 Zerg, as ZvZ is clearly his weakest match up. Trap Maru is going to be super close, but I feel like its 55 to 45 for Maru there
MaxPax
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-12 10:11:00
September 12 2019 10:10 GMT
#38
I think Rogue vs Maru finals would be pretty sick The last time they played against each other in the ro8 was a great match.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 12 2019 11:06 GMT
#39
On September 12 2019 19:10 Anc13nt wrote:
I think Rogue vs Maru finals would be pretty sick The last time they played against each other in the ro8 was a great match.

You mean when Maru bodied Rogue with a tank push on every map smaller than Backwater?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
September 12 2019 11:23 GMT
#40
Oh no, rogue won
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
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