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redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
December 14 2013 03:32 GMT
#201
On December 12 2013 17:39 TommyP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 08:54 arvinds94 wrote:
On December 12 2013 07:53 sns3rsam wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:55 Alryk wrote:
Love ViOlet :D

On December 12 2013 05:26 seoul_kiM wrote:
On December 12 2013 04:50 Ctone23 wrote:
On December 12 2013 04:45 seoul_kiM wrote:
Aren't all Texas schools second rate kind of except for Rice?

U of T Austin has a great law program though.


Nice generalization. Yeah, here in Texas we ride horses to school (only attend school after herding cattle, number one priority) and our women chew tobacco.


You might believe that I am ignorant, but you don't realize that your definition of second rate and mine might be completely different. I will admit that I am from the Northeast and you might make the generalization that I am an elitist pig. In my mind, I think there are top tier schools and then second rate schools even among your definition of a first rate school. It's not a long list at all: The Ivy League, MIT, CALTech, Berkeley, Duke, Georgetown, Johns Hopkins, Rice, Vanderbilt, Emory, UChicago, Northwestern, Wash U in St. Louis, Stanford, Williams, Swarthmore, Amherst. (excluding special schools like Juiliard) The schools that you are referring to might be good schools and even great schools in the local area but Nationally they are not as competitive.

The school you are referring to does not exist in Texas. It's called Deep Springs College in California and it is super competitive with most of its alumni completing a two year program and attending the world's best universities. So yes, I know my shit.

I'm not in high school, I'm not in college, I'm out of college and I work.


Both Texas A&M (11) and the University of Texas at Austin (11) are ranked higher in engineering than Johns Hopkins (25), U Penn (22), Harvard (23), Princeton (17), and the majority of the others you listed who might not even make the list. MIT, Caltech, Berkely, and Stanford among the competing ones. And engineering is a big field, by the way. Don't know what you mean by second rate.


You left out U of I Urbana-Champaign T~T
haha I went there that's why gogo Fighting Illini!

I go to U of I right now, ahaha gogo Fighting Illini!!
Responding to the elitist pig above, you are ignorant if that is your definition of first and second rate. If you were out of high school and college and doing work in the field one would think you would be more knowledgeable about the different colleges around the country. Your portrayed understanding of top tier just reflects admission rates and the name value, rather than actual programs, professors, and major specific rankings. Its hard for me to comprehend how these can be the only relevant schools in the nation for you. I love how everyone always skips over our school when we are top 10 for almost all undergrad engineering majors

Purdue>Illinois but yeah Illinois very good school.


Eh he isn't wrong. A&M is pretty much 3rd tier. Austin is top of 2nd tier or bottom of 1st tier. Hopkins, Penn, Harvard, Princeton are all top tier. Perhaps at specific disciplines there are decent programs in Texas, but other than Rice and UT I wouldn't really consider any of them as something special.
WetSocks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States953 Posts
December 14 2013 20:27 GMT
#202
So does it mean he postponed his military service or totally dodged it?
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
December 14 2013 20:37 GMT
#203
On December 15 2013 05:27 WetSocks wrote:
So does it mean he postponed his military service or totally dodged it?

He just got a working visa. That means he doesn't need to go into the Korean military right NOW.
He is still a Korean citizen though, which means he still has an obligation into military service.

If he were to become a US citizen (after meeting the requirements of living in the US for X amount of years), then he would have completely dodged military service.
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
December 14 2013 20:42 GMT
#204
On December 14 2013 12:32 redviper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 17:39 TommyP wrote:
On December 12 2013 08:54 arvinds94 wrote:
On December 12 2013 07:53 sns3rsam wrote:
On December 12 2013 05:55 Alryk wrote:
Love ViOlet :D

On December 12 2013 05:26 seoul_kiM wrote:
On December 12 2013 04:50 Ctone23 wrote:
On December 12 2013 04:45 seoul_kiM wrote:
Aren't all Texas schools second rate kind of except for Rice?

U of T Austin has a great law program though.


Nice generalization. Yeah, here in Texas we ride horses to school (only attend school after herding cattle, number one priority) and our women chew tobacco.


You might believe that I am ignorant, but you don't realize that your definition of second rate and mine might be completely different. I will admit that I am from the Northeast and you might make the generalization that I am an elitist pig. In my mind, I think there are top tier schools and then second rate schools even among your definition of a first rate school. It's not a long list at all: The Ivy League, MIT, CALTech, Berkeley, Duke, Georgetown, Johns Hopkins, Rice, Vanderbilt, Emory, UChicago, Northwestern, Wash U in St. Louis, Stanford, Williams, Swarthmore, Amherst. (excluding special schools like Juiliard) The schools that you are referring to might be good schools and even great schools in the local area but Nationally they are not as competitive.

The school you are referring to does not exist in Texas. It's called Deep Springs College in California and it is super competitive with most of its alumni completing a two year program and attending the world's best universities. So yes, I know my shit.

I'm not in high school, I'm not in college, I'm out of college and I work.


Both Texas A&M (11) and the University of Texas at Austin (11) are ranked higher in engineering than Johns Hopkins (25), U Penn (22), Harvard (23), Princeton (17), and the majority of the others you listed who might not even make the list. MIT, Caltech, Berkely, and Stanford among the competing ones. And engineering is a big field, by the way. Don't know what you mean by second rate.


You left out U of I Urbana-Champaign T~T
haha I went there that's why gogo Fighting Illini!

I go to U of I right now, ahaha gogo Fighting Illini!!
Responding to the elitist pig above, you are ignorant if that is your definition of first and second rate. If you were out of high school and college and doing work in the field one would think you would be more knowledgeable about the different colleges around the country. Your portrayed understanding of top tier just reflects admission rates and the name value, rather than actual programs, professors, and major specific rankings. Its hard for me to comprehend how these can be the only relevant schools in the nation for you. I love how everyone always skips over our school when we are top 10 for almost all undergrad engineering majors

Purdue>Illinois but yeah Illinois very good school.


Eh he isn't wrong. A&M is pretty much 3rd tier. Austin is top of 2nd tier or bottom of 1st tier. Hopkins, Penn, Harvard, Princeton are all top tier. Perhaps at specific disciplines there are decent programs in Texas, but other than Rice and UT I wouldn't really consider any of them as something special.

Doesn't UT Austin have the #1 Accounting school in the US? Something like that....
People underestimate UT Austin because it's a public University, but it really is up there in the rankings. They have really good departments, regardless of whether or not everyone in the school needs a 4.0 GPA to enter.
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
December 14 2013 21:02 GMT
#205
UT Austin is great school in a phenomenal town. Good all the way around.
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
December 14 2013 21:02 GMT
#206
Dodging the military to play a video game? If I was Korean I'd be pissed.

Meanwhile, there are people with doctorate degrees who get denied entry to the United States.
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
December 14 2013 21:28 GMT
#207
On December 15 2013 06:02 iamho wrote:
Dodging the military to play a video game? If I was Korean I'd be pissed.

Meanwhile, there are people with doctorate degrees who get denied entry to the United States.

Way to have a terrible outlook on the situation.

Saying the same thing in a not completely shitty way would be:
Doing what you love finally made possible? This is going to inspire many Koreans.

This is a stepping stone in the right direction to help professionals work their way into their dream jobs.




You seem to not realize that to someone who is looking to make a living in an immediate profession, you need to not waste 2 years in the military. That's why Korea is allowing him to pursue this dream. It's not like he's exploiting a flaw in their system.

As for doctors.... There are shit tons of doctors, and doctors are expensive to hire. Getting a working visa as a doctor with little to no working experience is obviously going to be harder than an athlete getting an athletes visa.
If a doctor has an amazing resume, they would have an easier time getting a working visa than, say, viOLet.
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
December 14 2013 21:36 GMT
#208
Violet isn't going to become a naturalized US citizen anytime soon*, unless he married a US citizen. He's not eligible to apply for citizenship with that athlete visa.

If his goal is to avoid military duty, then he best marry some girl within the next year; because the process from petition to change status to taking the oath will take about 5 years.
therockmanxx
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru1174 Posts
December 14 2013 21:39 GMT
#209
RIP Violet
Tekken ProGamer
IAMPRO
Profile Joined November 2011
Afghanistan118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-15 04:54:13
December 15 2013 04:53 GMT
#210
God I love Violet!! After Leenock probably my favourite zerg. Can't wait to see him back!
SuHoSin - we'll never forget your genius
imrepresent
Profile Joined December 2013
United States7 Posts
December 15 2013 07:04 GMT
#211
I think this is a huge step forward for the E-sports community. Especially for the Starcraft community.
Starcraft Name: Represent - Code: 779 - Region NA - Mech Gang or Die - Bronze League Brawler
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
December 15 2013 07:37 GMT
#212
IMO he deserves some criticism for enrolling in all of WCS 2013 without knowing if he could play.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
December 15 2013 20:10 GMT
#213
But that is the situation of virtually every non-American SC2 player. The Chinese players went through similar drama and NASL had issues getting Eastern European players over as well. The type of visa Violet got is a long term deal, while for the majority of non-US players they are getting short-term visas that would only apply for a single event. And often can't even be applied for until you qualify for the offline stages.
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
December 15 2013 20:46 GMT
#214
These are great news.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
December 15 2013 21:00 GMT
#215
On December 16 2013 05:10 Wuster wrote:
But that is the situation of virtually every non-American SC2 player. The Chinese players went through similar drama and NASL had issues getting Eastern European players over as well. The type of visa Violet got is a long term deal, while for the majority of non-US players they are getting short-term visas that would only apply for a single event. And often can't even be applied for until you qualify for the offline stages.


Yeah but the thing is he could easily foresee his problem, and in fact repeated it 3 times.
Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-15 22:49:25
December 15 2013 22:49 GMT
#216
hope to see him more in 2014.

He sorta dropped off scene recently.
i like cheese
flawed_halo
Profile Joined February 2013
40 Posts
December 16 2013 07:52 GMT
#217
Don't know if anyone has posted this yet but I saw that this made news on the NPR website.
Here is the link http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2013/12/15/250793493/u-s-recognizes-a-south-korean-starcraft-player-as-an-athlete
Akimbo
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada104 Posts
December 16 2013 16:57 GMT
#218
One small step for violet, one giant step for esports.
1-1+1-1+1-1+1-.......
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