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Innovation will join Acer on September 1 - Page 12

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SAFenix
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada439 Posts
August 27 2013 01:30 GMT
#221
On August 27 2013 10:29 GinDo wrote:
Hopully MMA can learn from Innovation and become his old self again. Go Go Team Acer.

RIP STX T_T

Exactly what I was thinking. #MMA2011-2012
mYi.Rain | SKT1.soO
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
August 27 2013 01:32 GMT
#222
Salary must be bigger than the rest of the team combined
Zethiel
Profile Joined September 2010
Bolivia39 Posts
August 27 2013 01:32 GMT
#223
I wonder how much this will impact on the output of both teams. If STXsouls will do any better or worse, and how much Acer players may or may not improve... I mean, other players in STX will have more opportunities to play, to show and also be more responsible for where the team stood on PL, and on the other hand, Acer seems to be pretty balance to some point, and now I wonder how this will affect to mainly the other big players Acer has... like if INnoVation will be traveling a lot more to other tournaments, and how much less players like MMA or Scarlett will be attending those since INnoVation may take away some of the lights from them...

Either way, I'll miss seeing INnoVation in the light-blue/Black shirts and jacket combos, and now into the white/green of Acers...
Si no duele, no sirve - Esteban Zenteno
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-27 01:39:07
August 27 2013 01:38 GMT
#224
GSTL:

Startale: Bomber Life Curious Avenge and Hack (?)
MVP: Super, DongRaeGu, Keen, Dream, Duckdeok
AxA: Scarlett INnoVation Alicia MMA Ryung
IM: Squirtle Mvp First, YongHwa, MC

who wins? more importantly if INnoVation gets back into form, who beats him? Ryung? they are on the same team, so, who else?
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
August 27 2013 01:38 GMT
#225
KESPA NO


KEEP HIM ON STX SOUL WITH THE WELFARE MONEY YOU GAVE TO TEAM 8
)))____◎◎◎◎█████
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-27 01:39:36
August 27 2013 01:38 GMT
#226
On August 27 2013 10:26 jiberish wrote:
IMO it is a good choice. A lot of the korean players really want to travel and play in the foreign tournaments. I mean look at JD. EG flies him all over the place. I think it is much more rewarding to look back on a career and think of all the places you went and the different fans you get to meet etc.


Exactly. That's the crazy thing about Innovation. This Season 2 Finals was the FIRST Premier tournament that Innovation attended in HotS where he did not get top 4. Every single tournament he has attended otherwise he has gotten top 4 or better.

3rd place MLG Dallas
2nd place WCS Korea Season 1 (GSL)
1st place WCS Season 1 Finals
3rd/4th place WCS Korea Season 2 (OSL)
3rd Place WCG Korean Qualifiers (ok, not the main event or technically a Premier tournament, but definitely harder than most foreign Premier tournaments)

In order to be successful, a player needs 2 things:
1. Skill
2. Opportunities

Now there is no question Innovation has skill. But that alone is not always enough. You have plenty of players who are really good, but never have the opportunity to leave Korea to compete. That's why EG-TL have been doing so well. They have decent players (not the best, but solid players), and they send them everywhere. When's the last time we had a foreign tournament where these two teams weren't represented?

By joining a foreign team, Innovation now has both the skill, AND the opportunities to compete in more tournaments other than WCS. This could be huge for his career.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
ffrozenfish
Profile Joined May 2011
820 Posts
August 27 2013 01:46 GMT
#227
On August 27 2013 10:38 Cricketer12 wrote:
GSTL:

Startale: Bomber Life Curious Avenge and Hack (?)
MVP: Super, DongRaeGu, Keen, Dream, Duckdeok
AxA: Scarlett INnoVation Alicia MMA Ryung
IM: Squirtle Mvp First, YongHwa, MC

who wins? more importantly if INnoVation gets back into form, who beats him? Ryung? they are on the same team, so, who else?


Any Terran can take Innovation out.

Congrats to Acer for the pick up.
Give us our snipe back - Ghost
XtreMe_au
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia412 Posts
August 27 2013 01:47 GMT
#228
On August 27 2013 10:38 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2013 10:26 jiberish wrote:
IMO it is a good choice. A lot of the korean players really want to travel and play in the foreign tournaments. I mean look at JD. EG flies him all over the place. I think it is much more rewarding to look back on a career and think of all the places you went and the different fans you get to meet etc.


Exactly. That's the crazy thing about Innovation. This Season 2 Finals was the FIRST Premier tournament that Innovation attended in HotS where he did not get top 4. Every single tournament he has attended otherwise he has gotten top 4 or better.

3rd place MLG Dallas
2nd place WCS Korea Season 1 (GSL)
1st place WCS Season 1 Finals
3rd/4th place WCS Korea Season 2 (OSL)
3rd Place WCG Korean Qualifiers (ok, not the main event or technically a Premier tournament, but definitely harder than most foreign Premier tournaments)

In order to be successful, a player needs 2 things:
1. Skill
2. Opportunities

Now there is no question Innovation has skill. But that alone is not always enough. You have plenty of players who are really good, but never have the opportunity to leave Korea to compete. That's why EG-TL have been doing so well. They have decent players (not the best, but solid players), and they send them everywhere. When's the last time we had a foreign tournament where these two teams weren't represented?

By joining a foreign team, Innovation now has both the skill, AND the opportunities to compete in more tournaments other than WCS. This could be huge for his career.


And 1st in the IEM shanghai Korea qualifier. And winning his team proleague.. Pretty funny that people say he's in a massive slump and he's going down... Those results are almost unprecedented (MVP, Life, maybe a few others). I'm certain he will bounce back and be clutch as fuck.
IronL
Profile Joined January 2012
United States34 Posts
August 27 2013 01:48 GMT
#229
On August 27 2013 10:38 Cricketer12 wrote:
GSTL:

Startale: Bomber Life Curious Avenge and Hack (?)
MVP: Super, DongRaeGu, Keen, Dream, Duckdeok
AxA: Scarlett INnoVation Alicia MMA Ryung
IM: Squirtle Mvp First, YongHwa, MC

who wins? more importantly if INnoVation gets back into form, who beats him? Ryung? they are on the same team, so, who else?


Bomber has, can and will beat INnoVation in the future. Also Scarlett, Life (if he returns to form, I'm sure he will) and MVP always has a good chance against anyone.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
August 27 2013 01:51 GMT
#230
Sigh he is gonna look so stupid with that green Acer shirt on
I do like the team more than any other foreigner team aside from TL, but that uniform is rank.

MMA went from looking like a killer in his SlayerS jacket, to some kid that just got home from an academic/spelling tournament.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Mattumsfox
Profile Joined April 2012
United States233 Posts
August 27 2013 01:51 GMT
#231
Reading Gamespot really makes you realize that sc2 actually has one of the best communities in gaming.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 27 2013 01:53 GMT
#232
On August 27 2013 10:47 XtreMe_au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2013 10:38 Bagration wrote:
On August 27 2013 10:26 jiberish wrote:
IMO it is a good choice. A lot of the korean players really want to travel and play in the foreign tournaments. I mean look at JD. EG flies him all over the place. I think it is much more rewarding to look back on a career and think of all the places you went and the different fans you get to meet etc.


Exactly. That's the crazy thing about Innovation. This Season 2 Finals was the FIRST Premier tournament that Innovation attended in HotS where he did not get top 4. Every single tournament he has attended otherwise he has gotten top 4 or better.

3rd place MLG Dallas
2nd place WCS Korea Season 1 (GSL)
1st place WCS Season 1 Finals
3rd/4th place WCS Korea Season 2 (OSL)
3rd Place WCG Korean Qualifiers (ok, not the main event or technically a Premier tournament, but definitely harder than most foreign Premier tournaments)

In order to be successful, a player needs 2 things:
1. Skill
2. Opportunities

Now there is no question Innovation has skill. But that alone is not always enough. You have plenty of players who are really good, but never have the opportunity to leave Korea to compete. That's why EG-TL have been doing so well. They have decent players (not the best, but solid players), and they send them everywhere. When's the last time we had a foreign tournament where these two teams weren't represented?

By joining a foreign team, Innovation now has both the skill, AND the opportunities to compete in more tournaments other than WCS. This could be huge for his career.


And 1st in the IEM shanghai Korea qualifier. And winning his team proleague.. Pretty funny that people say he's in a massive slump and he's going down... Those results are almost unprecedented (MVP, Life, maybe a few others). I'm certain he will bounce back and be clutch as fuck.


I certainly hope so. I've grown to love Innovation as a player. He tries to be as stoic as possible, but I'd say he's actually a pretty emotional player. 3 times now we've seen him choke and go 0-4 (GSL finals vs Soulkey, OSL semis vs Maru, and WCS Season 2 vs Taeja and Naniwa).

Innovation is in a "slump" because he isn't winning every single tournament he enters like people expect him to :p
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2867 Posts
August 27 2013 01:59 GMT
#233
Ahem...

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
August 27 2013 02:04 GMT
#234
too bad innovation already peaked....

maybe he will prove me wrong

i hope so.

i love that guy
:-)
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
August 27 2013 02:05 GMT
#235
innovation has peaked long ago and is on a downfall
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-27 02:06:24
August 27 2013 02:06 GMT
#236
On August 27 2013 10:38 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2013 10:26 jiberish wrote:
IMO it is a good choice. A lot of the korean players really want to travel and play in the foreign tournaments. I mean look at JD. EG flies him all over the place. I think it is much more rewarding to look back on a career and think of all the places you went and the different fans you get to meet etc.


Exactly. That's the crazy thing about Innovation. This Season 2 Finals was the FIRST Premier tournament that Innovation attended in HotS where he did not get top 4. Every single tournament he has attended otherwise he has gotten top 4 or better.

3rd place MLG Dallas
2nd place WCS Korea Season 1 (GSL)
1st place WCS Season 1 Finals
3rd/4th place WCS Korea Season 2 (OSL)
3rd Place WCG Korean Qualifiers (ok, not the main event or technically a Premier tournament, but definitely harder than most foreign Premier tournaments)

In order to be successful, a player needs 2 things:
1. Skill
2. Opportunities

Now there is no question Innovation has skill. But that alone is not always enough. You have plenty of players who are really good, but never have the opportunity to leave Korea to compete. That's why EG-TL have been doing so well. They have decent players (not the best, but solid players), and they send them everywhere. When's the last time we had a foreign tournament where these two teams weren't represented?

By joining a foreign team, Innovation now has both the skill, AND the opportunities to compete in more tournaments other than WCS. This could be huge for his career.

Only if player like Bisu Stork got these chance. They might be back in shape in no time, just might. Bonding to PL is killing their enthusiasm, although it is well-payed.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 27 2013 02:07 GMT
#237
On August 27 2013 11:05 skatblast wrote:
innovation has peaked long ago and is on a downfall


OSL Ro4,
WCG Korea 3rd Place

If a foreigner were to get those same results (I know, technically impossible with WCG Korea, but bear with me), they would be called the best foreigner ever in SC2. That's how high Innovation has set the bar for himself.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
August 27 2013 02:09 GMT
#238
On August 27 2013 10:32 Zethiel wrote:
I wonder how much this will impact on the output of both teams. If STXsouls will do any better or worse, and how much Acer players may or may not improve... I mean, other players in STX will have more opportunities to play, to show and also be more responsible for where the team stood on PL, and on the other hand, Acer seems to be pretty balance to some point, and now I wonder how this will affect to mainly the other big players Acer has... like if INnoVation will be traveling a lot more to other tournaments, and how much less players like MMA or Scarlett will be attending those since INnoVation may take away some of the lights from them...

Either way, I'll miss seeing INnoVation in the light-blue/Black shirts and jacket combos, and now into the white/green of Acers...

Sadly, STX soul is disbanding in no time. The other players all need to find new home.
XtreMe_au
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia412 Posts
August 27 2013 02:12 GMT
#239
Acer Trap, Acer Dear, Acer Classic?
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
August 27 2013 02:13 GMT
#240
Acer needs good Protoss players. I should let them know I"m a free agent
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
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