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Chobra 'Grilled': context on Korea gaming culture

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Thorin
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
601 Posts
August 04 2013 20:54 GMT
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William "Chobra" Cho, OGN Creative Director and Global Relations Advisor, is the star of the 63rd episode of my 'Grilled' interview series.

Being as Chobra has lived in South Korea and the USA for a number of years, being fluent in both English and Korean, the interview sees him explaining and exploring the context of Korean gaming culture for Westerners. The focus is often on matters specific to LoL, but we discuss BW heavily in the first section and a number of the later topics contain interesting information for StarCraft fans.

Some of the topics discussed:
- How accepted gaming is in Korean families.
- How big BW was at its peak, its penetration into the culture and when it began to wane in terms of viewing numbers.
- How LoL in Korea compares to BW's peak.
- The team house environment and expectations placed on pro players.
- Korean fan culture and its, at times, extreme nature.
- Korean gaming organisations operating as companies, with strict hierarchies.
- Chobra's personal approach to interpreting.

The entire 2h23m video interview can be watched at Team Acer.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 04 2013 20:57 GMT
#2
2 hours and 23 minutes? Wow Thorin, I love your interviews, but... Holy shit. 143 minutes? Damn. Thanks for the interview though, it's sure to be an interesting one with some of the topics listed.
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
August 04 2013 21:01 GMT
#3
2h23 minuts, wow sick !
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XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 21:43:50
August 04 2013 21:43 GMT
#4
What is that word said at 58:07/58:10 that RingTroll didn't follow? I like it.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
qxc
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States550 Posts
August 04 2013 22:35 GMT
#5
anyone summarize the main points? i'm a starcraft player, not a civilization player. Neither am I goody and so I don't have the attention span for this
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Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
August 04 2013 22:53 GMT
#6
On August 05 2013 07:35 qxc wrote:
anyone summarize the main points? i'm a starcraft player, not a civilization player. Neither am I goody and so I don't have the attention span for this


good idea, in fact now I think I'll play a game of civ and watch a goody replay while I listen to this one
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Thorin
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
601 Posts
August 04 2013 23:19 GMT
#7
On August 05 2013 06:43 XaCez wrote:
What is that word said at 58:07/58:10 that RingTroll didn't follow? I like it.

Curfew, supposedly he was out of the team house without permission.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 04 2013 23:29 GMT
#8
I've watched some of the other Grilled interviews, and the topics here seem interesting, but 2 hours is just way too long.
Uracil
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany422 Posts
August 04 2013 23:36 GMT
#9
Great stuff. Definitely worth watching.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 04 2013 23:47 GMT
#10
On August 05 2013 08:29 ZAiNs wrote:
I've watched some of the other Grilled interviews, and the topics here seem interesting, but 2 hours is just way too long.


I think the Youtube video has anchors so you can just jump to whatever you want to listen to
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xyzz
Profile Joined January 2012
567 Posts
August 04 2013 23:56 GMT
#11
a wonderful interview, although it slightly saddens me to hear that starcraft 2 didn't really catch on and is already on its way out
BlueLanterna
Profile Joined April 2011
291 Posts
August 05 2013 00:01 GMT
#12
Before I even watch the interview, I will say thank you to Thorin for doing this.

But...2 hours??? Damn son there must have been some tremendous caveats and details you had to go into, I guess I'll see after watching.
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
August 05 2013 00:05 GMT
#13
A very informative and entertaining video.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-05 00:18:35
August 05 2013 00:16 GMT
#14
On August 05 2013 05:57 Zealously wrote:
2 hours and 23 minutes? Wow Thorin, I love your interviews, but... Holy shit. 143 minutes? Damn. Thanks for the interview though, it's sure to be an interesting one with some of the topics listed.


They really need to learn how to do condensed interviews and get right to the meat or focus on separate issues for an episode and then re-invite a guest again. I will try to watch parts of this when I find the time to because I like the work Chobra does. I can see why you made it long winded but please keep in mind not everyone wants to sit through 2.5 hours of content. It's not just you. It's JP and just about everyone else for that matter too. You guys need to plan/cut better.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
August 05 2013 00:25 GMT
#15
The story of how Chobra got into his first role was pretty awesome
xyzz
Profile Joined January 2012
567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-05 00:34:53
August 05 2013 00:34 GMT
#16
You guys need to plan/cut better

I respectfully disagree. There's a lot of different types of interviews and this is clearly one that tries to go beneath the surface and delve deep into the guest's thought process. The only criticism I have is that the interviewer occasionally seems to be somewhat unable to formulate the questions accurately and instead talks for 5 minutes straight before finally allowing Chobra to reply.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 05 2013 00:44 GMT
#17
On August 05 2013 09:34 xyzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
You guys need to plan/cut better

I respectfully disagree. There's a lot of different types of interviews and this is clearly one that tries to go beneath the surface and delve deep into the guest's thought process. The only criticism I have is that the interviewer occasionally seems to be somewhat unable to formulate the questions accurately and instead talks for 5 minutes straight before finally allowing Chobra to reply.


Your criticism would fall under tact and that ties into planning.
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
August 05 2013 01:00 GMT
#18
I like the longer interviews as a contrast to the 1-5 questions we often get at events.
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 05 2013 03:30 GMT
#19
Nice interview thanks!
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rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-05 03:53:10
August 05 2013 03:35 GMT
#20
Perhaps it's different in LoL now, but in BW the star power of an individual player was very important to the team, despite how much in decline they were performance-wise. (Referring to the players that got cut, that is.) But it makes more sense that they would be axed for the good of the team's success, whereas Reach and Yellow could warm the KT bench while looking sharp.
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