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No StarCraft 2 tournament at ESWC 2013

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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
May 09 2013 13:24 GMT
#1
ESWC just announced there won't be any SC2 tournament at ESWC 2013 due to scheduling conflicts with WCS Global Finals.

Quick translation :

"According to the plan, we'll announce today three games that will be part of the pool of official disciplines at ESWC 2013.

However, StarCraft 2 HotS will not be part of the selection process, despite our proposal to Blizzard. Indeed, we work for several weeks with Blizzard Europe eSports teams on a reasonable way to coexist and even connect, ESWC events and its 1-3 November finals with the overall WCS project and its 8-9 November finals. To date, our schedules completely overlap ; and the proximity of the final dates, on which no one can move, makes every sport assimilation very complicated. We want to share our disappointment with the players, champions and fans of the title. We wish all the best to WCS events in 2013.

As we have done for 13 years, through the organization of hundreds of tournaments on Starcraft Broodwar, Warcraft 3 and Starcraft 2, we will continue in the future, as far as possible, to imagine and produce operations for the development of e-sports, along with Blizzard. Postponed."

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Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Demicore
Profile Joined October 2011
France503 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 13:53:05
May 09 2013 13:49 GMT
#2
Ah bummer, I was wondering if they could improve on last year's shameful performance. Oh well!
"I love male nipples in starcraft; the two go together so well." ~Tasteless
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 13:53:45
May 09 2013 13:53 GMT
#3
Well, seeing how they handled the last one, I won't say I'll miss it that much...

MaNa vs Stephano was quite good, but come on, MaNa vs forGG was just a mess, with crappy schedule (9:00 am ...) and crappy format (how can you claim to crown a "World champion", as they believe they do, with a Bo3 finals...).

There was like 50 people max in the crowd, I felt so bad...
LiquipediaWanderer
Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
May 09 2013 13:54 GMT
#4
Well ESWC was always a letdown. So I dont care much about this. If there are scheduling issues its compkletly ok.
Maybe next time again
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
May 09 2013 14:53 GMT
#5
This is not in any way a good thing. First NASL (probably) now ESWC. As good as WCS is shaping up to be, we always need competition. I don't understand why anyone is ok with Blizzard's rules when it comes to shit like this. Monopolizing is NEVER a good thing so why are we so content with Blizzard doing exactly that?
Jade
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland289 Posts
May 09 2013 15:03 GMT
#6
WCS>ESWC everyday imho.
@KRN_Jade "Patience is a small price to pay for perfection."
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
May 09 2013 15:12 GMT
#7
On May 09 2013 23:53 Exarl25 wrote:
This is not in any way a good thing. First NASL (probably) now ESWC. As good as WCS is shaping up to be, we always need competition. I don't understand why anyone is ok with Blizzard's rules when it comes to shit like this. Monopolizing is NEVER a good thing so why are we so content with Blizzard doing exactly that?


What evidence is there of NASL not having another season? Unless there is some actual evidence to support this, saying that Blizzard has now killed off two tournaments, one of which was just plain bad last time, is just hyperbole.
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
May 09 2013 15:14 GMT
#8
There goes Stephano's last hope.
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
May 09 2013 15:18 GMT
#9
On May 10 2013 00:12 Wingblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 23:53 Exarl25 wrote:
This is not in any way a good thing. First NASL (probably) now ESWC. As good as WCS is shaping up to be, we always need competition. I don't understand why anyone is ok with Blizzard's rules when it comes to shit like this. Monopolizing is NEVER a good thing so why are we so content with Blizzard doing exactly that?


What evidence is there of NASL not having another season? Unless there is some actual evidence to support this, saying that Blizzard has now killed off two tournaments, one of which was just plain bad last time, is just hyperbole.


Have you missed all of the recent discussion related to NASL? There is no official confirmation yet but it's looking extremely likely.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
May 09 2013 15:33 GMT
#10
On May 10 2013 00:12 Wingblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 23:53 Exarl25 wrote:
This is not in any way a good thing. First NASL (probably) now ESWC. As good as WCS is shaping up to be, we always need competition. I don't understand why anyone is ok with Blizzard's rules when it comes to shit like this. Monopolizing is NEVER a good thing so why are we so content with Blizzard doing exactly that?


What evidence is there of NASL not having another season? Unless there is some actual evidence to support this, saying that Blizzard has now killed off two tournaments, one of which was just plain bad last time, is just hyperbole.

For starters, there's currently three WCS tournaments each day, each going a handful hours or more. Given that you're not allowed to stream other big tournaments during that, it makes it literally impossible to have another daily tournament/show besides that.
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
May 11 2013 12:17 GMT
#11
This is going to end bad for SC2 and it's players..

there shouldn't be a plan to kill all sc2 tournaments to only exist WCS...
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
May 11 2013 12:34 GMT
#12
These are the kind of hiccups were going to bump into now that we've gone with the WCS system. t'll be back next year I imagine
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
May 11 2013 12:38 GMT
#13
expected alot of shut downs when they announced their LoL like world tournament system. So unsurprising but still sad.
Skytt
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland333 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 12:46:10
May 11 2013 12:44 GMT
#14
ESWC has been one of the worst tournaments for years and years. While it sucks that WCS is creating friction with independent tournament hosts I wouldn't be concerned til this starts affecting better and more prominent tournaments like Iron Squid and if NASL doesn't actually do anything this year.

If prize money for the year is down despite Blizzards big injection, then I think Blizz need to rethink their policies and become more lenient towards having other competitions on while WCS runs
Serek
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom459 Posts
May 11 2013 13:29 GMT
#15
No flowers.
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1168 Posts
May 11 2013 13:46 GMT
#16
Did ESWC pay the players?
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
May 11 2013 13:50 GMT
#17
I feel bad that another tourney won't be hosting SC2 since more exposure is always good for the teams, sponsors, players and of course audience but if ESWC does another last year-like event, I think it did a bit more bad than good. Money tho.
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
May 11 2013 16:29 GMT
#18
On May 10 2013 00:18 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 00:12 Wingblade wrote:
On May 09 2013 23:53 Exarl25 wrote:
This is not in any way a good thing. First NASL (probably) now ESWC. As good as WCS is shaping up to be, we always need competition. I don't understand why anyone is ok with Blizzard's rules when it comes to shit like this. Monopolizing is NEVER a good thing so why are we so content with Blizzard doing exactly that?


What evidence is there of NASL not having another season? Unless there is some actual evidence to support this, saying that Blizzard has now killed off two tournaments, one of which was just plain bad last time, is just hyperbole.


Have you missed all of the recent discussion related to NASL? There is no official confirmation yet but it's looking extremely likely.


I haven't seen any of this no. Does anyone want to clue me in?
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
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