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silverstyle
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1108 Posts
January 02 2013 15:28 GMT
#421
Congrats MajOr! I find him such a funny guy. I hope he does well!
Liquid`HerO!!!
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
January 02 2013 15:30 GMT
#422
On January 03 2013 00:16 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 00:07 Noobity wrote:
I think this probably makes him the strongest sc2 player on Team 8, and while I don't know anything about the proleague rules, assuming he can be added to the roster I foresee him being their Ace in quite a few matchups.

I doubt this is the end of the soap opera that is Major's sc2 foreign scene antics, but I hope it's a very long and prosperous break in them. Congrats Major, and congrats team 8

BaBy and Jaehoon are better than him, maybe Speed too. I don't think MajOr can replace BaBy as the ace of T8.

Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 00:06 Taipoka wrote:
On January 02 2013 23:43 bK- wrote:
On January 02 2013 23:29 lolspoon wrote:
On January 02 2013 23:27 bK- wrote:
On January 02 2013 14:37 Dontkillme wrote:
Cant this guy stay on one team for more than a month... Jesus, and I don't know why T8 picked up a foreigner and out of all foreigners, this guy.....

I feel kinda embarrassed that somebody like him will representing all of the foreigners for us. He is known for his sour attitude and flakiness. Also I cannot remember the last time he was a highlight in a premier tournament either. Then yet again the good foreigners like a Naniwa or a Staphano are already signed. So with that kind of thinking there is not much to pick from. Although it is good that Kespa is now opening its doors to the rest of the world. I think this might be a PR play rather than accepting actual talent.


please find real facts instead of this ok?

Sure thing I do not mind finding the real facts. This is what he accomplished in at least Two Years of playing professionally which is a very long time. Not to mention the sheer amount of Dreamhacks,MLGs,Blizzard Cups,Homestory,Intel Extreme Masters and other premier tournaments that have taken place in Two Years time. I am not including the beta in which has had its own tournaments as well.
In the two years that SC2 has been out here is what he accomplished as per liquidpedia.

2011:

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/leagues/1353_VT_Open_6
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/leagues/1422_VT_Open_7
http://sc2na.zotac-cup.com/en/cups/105-zotac-starcraft-ii-na-cup-11

2012:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/TeamLiquid_StarLeague_4/Qualifiers/EU\NA_6_(NA_Server)
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/TeamLiquid_StarLeague_4/Qualifiers/EU\NA_10_(NA_Server)

These tournaments did not have anybody of note at the current time playing in them. Maybe Fenix but that is all who stand out to me. Also for the StarLeague he faced some medicore players as well and in Qualifier #6 all he had to face is Welmu in which he lost. Qualifier #10 was a joke as all he had to play was Lucifron,Vibe,Fraer.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/leagues/1474_WWG_Open

Only player in that pool that was doing well at the time was ThorZain.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/North_America/Nationals/Mexico

Mexico Nationals outside of Major and Killer who else is really recognized from that side of the world?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/North_America/Finals

Now this is the only tournament that I will say he did play well in this.


Maybe he was asking for facts about:

He is known for his sour attitude and flakiness :-D

Because about tournments its obvious his lack of recent good results.


From (Wiki)MajOr's Liquipedia page:

Show nested quote +

The well-known commentator Artosis stated that he was the next foreign player in line to move to Korea just before the release of StarCraft II. Being part of the GoSI clan, as, for example, the Woongjin Stars A-teamer Flying and playing in tryout matches against eSTRO-players confirm this impression. However, he was also known for frequently switching teams and said to suffer from a lack of respect and bad manner.

[...]

His potential was quickly realized and he was picked up by the team ROOT Gaming. However, due to disputes purportedly surrounding funding and maturity, he and ROOT Gaming parted ways after a period of roughly two months.

[...]

He was caught using another player's account to compete in Dox's SEA tournament, which was restricted only to those with SEA citizenship. MajOr used the account of an SEA diamond-level player named "sayfT", but this aroused the suspicions of mOOnGlaDe who was casting his tournament matches -- noticing the Terran's unusually high-level play that was above and beyond the supposed diamond level of the account. "sayFT" continued to deny accusations of smurfing, but evidence was found on MajOr's own stream. This scandal has since created more problems for MajOr's reputation.

[...]

On September 2nd 2011, MajOr was released from Sixjax. Team manager Evoli announced the release on September 4th, citing MajOr's continued poor behavior and lack of professionalism despite repeated warnings. In response to this, MajOr stated that Sixjax failed to comply with the promise to sponsor a stay in Korea, even after he himself had arranged one with team New Star HoSeo, which, along with not sending any team players to the 2011 MLG Raleigh, led him to quit the team.

This led to another statement from the team, claiming that they had indeed made plans to send MajOr to Korea, but reconsidered after he lied to management about not wearing the official team jersey at 2011 MLG Anaheim, and having bad conduct with wbc after their match. Also, they claim that he swore against a fellow teammate dde in a streamed online tournament in the course of several games.

Sources are on the Liquipedia page.

There you have some facts aside from tournament results.


Now you guys have all the points :D
Lets hope he growed up
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
lolspoon
Profile Joined March 2012
450 Posts
January 02 2013 15:34 GMT
#423
lol bK, you are the typical butthurt who is only picking on the few bad things, but doesnt mention the good things, never. please stop
NERD THATS TEH WAY WE LIEV
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
January 02 2013 15:34 GMT
#424
On January 03 2013 00:30 Taipoka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 00:16 Serinox wrote:
On January 03 2013 00:07 Noobity wrote:
I think this probably makes him the strongest sc2 player on Team 8, and while I don't know anything about the proleague rules, assuming he can be added to the roster I foresee him being their Ace in quite a few matchups.

I doubt this is the end of the soap opera that is Major's sc2 foreign scene antics, but I hope it's a very long and prosperous break in them. Congrats Major, and congrats team 8

BaBy and Jaehoon are better than him, maybe Speed too. I don't think MajOr can replace BaBy as the ace of T8.

On January 03 2013 00:06 Taipoka wrote:
On January 02 2013 23:43 bK- wrote:
On January 02 2013 23:29 lolspoon wrote:
On January 02 2013 23:27 bK- wrote:
On January 02 2013 14:37 Dontkillme wrote:
Cant this guy stay on one team for more than a month... Jesus, and I don't know why T8 picked up a foreigner and out of all foreigners, this guy.....

I feel kinda embarrassed that somebody like him will representing all of the foreigners for us. He is known for his sour attitude and flakiness. Also I cannot remember the last time he was a highlight in a premier tournament either. Then yet again the good foreigners like a Naniwa or a Staphano are already signed. So with that kind of thinking there is not much to pick from. Although it is good that Kespa is now opening its doors to the rest of the world. I think this might be a PR play rather than accepting actual talent.


please find real facts instead of this ok?

Sure thing I do not mind finding the real facts. This is what he accomplished in at least Two Years of playing professionally which is a very long time. Not to mention the sheer amount of Dreamhacks,MLGs,Blizzard Cups,Homestory,Intel Extreme Masters and other premier tournaments that have taken place in Two Years time. I am not including the beta in which has had its own tournaments as well.
In the two years that SC2 has been out here is what he accomplished as per liquidpedia.

2011:

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/leagues/1353_VT_Open_6
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/leagues/1422_VT_Open_7
http://sc2na.zotac-cup.com/en/cups/105-zotac-starcraft-ii-na-cup-11

2012:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/TeamLiquid_StarLeague_4/Qualifiers/EU\NA_6_(NA_Server)
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/TeamLiquid_StarLeague_4/Qualifiers/EU\NA_10_(NA_Server)

These tournaments did not have anybody of note at the current time playing in them. Maybe Fenix but that is all who stand out to me. Also for the StarLeague he faced some medicore players as well and in Qualifier #6 all he had to face is Welmu in which he lost. Qualifier #10 was a joke as all he had to play was Lucifron,Vibe,Fraer.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/leagues/1474_WWG_Open

Only player in that pool that was doing well at the time was ThorZain.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/North_America/Nationals/Mexico

Mexico Nationals outside of Major and Killer who else is really recognized from that side of the world?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/North_America/Finals

Now this is the only tournament that I will say he did play well in this.


Maybe he was asking for facts about:

He is known for his sour attitude and flakiness :-D

Because about tournments its obvious his lack of recent good results.


From (Wiki)MajOr's Liquipedia page:


The well-known commentator Artosis stated that he was the next foreign player in line to move to Korea just before the release of StarCraft II. Being part of the GoSI clan, as, for example, the Woongjin Stars A-teamer Flying and playing in tryout matches against eSTRO-players confirm this impression. However, he was also known for frequently switching teams and said to suffer from a lack of respect and bad manner.

[...]

His potential was quickly realized and he was picked up by the team ROOT Gaming. However, due to disputes purportedly surrounding funding and maturity, he and ROOT Gaming parted ways after a period of roughly two months.

[...]

He was caught using another player's account to compete in Dox's SEA tournament, which was restricted only to those with SEA citizenship. MajOr used the account of an SEA diamond-level player named "sayfT", but this aroused the suspicions of mOOnGlaDe who was casting his tournament matches -- noticing the Terran's unusually high-level play that was above and beyond the supposed diamond level of the account. "sayFT" continued to deny accusations of smurfing, but evidence was found on MajOr's own stream. This scandal has since created more problems for MajOr's reputation.

[...]

On September 2nd 2011, MajOr was released from Sixjax. Team manager Evoli announced the release on September 4th, citing MajOr's continued poor behavior and lack of professionalism despite repeated warnings. In response to this, MajOr stated that Sixjax failed to comply with the promise to sponsor a stay in Korea, even after he himself had arranged one with team New Star HoSeo, which, along with not sending any team players to the 2011 MLG Raleigh, led him to quit the team.

This led to another statement from the team, claiming that they had indeed made plans to send MajOr to Korea, but reconsidered after he lied to management about not wearing the official team jersey at 2011 MLG Anaheim, and having bad conduct with wbc after their match. Also, they claim that he swore against a fellow teammate dde in a streamed online tournament in the course of several games.

Sources are on the Liquipedia page.

There you have some facts aside from tournament results.


Now you guys have all the points :D
Lets hope he growed up

I hope it for his sake, but I wouldn't be suprised if this goes wrong somehow.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
January 02 2013 15:35 GMT
#425
On January 02 2013 18:00 Jedclark wrote:
"(e.g. Jaedong)" I see what you did there.

Also, this is pretty sick. This means a lot more than a simple player pickup - it shows KESPA's willingness to embrace the foreigner scene, most importantly.


couldn't resist. Was too easy of a pun to throw in. I'll be seriously ROOTing for MajOr, I hope T8 doesn't disband like some others were saying.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
January 02 2013 15:38 GMT
#426
On January 02 2013 23:35 Shinespark wrote:
I don't think we'll have to wait that long to see Major play. T8 has very few players and other than Baby, they're all bad.

Tell that to Jaehoon please. That guy managed to screw my anti-team.
Get off my lawn, young punks
bK-
Profile Joined June 2012
United States326 Posts
January 02 2013 15:40 GMT
#427
On January 03 2013 00:34 lolspoon wrote:
lol bK, you are the typical butthurt who is only picking on the few bad things, but doesnt mention the good things, never. please stop

A few bad things are you kidding me? All my sources are directly from liquidpedia which are creditable sources. I cannot even fathom what else he has done that is not on liquidpedia. Looking at it from a objective standpoint it just boggles my mind why they would even consider someone like him. Just hope he is not taking advantage of their kindness because Kespa is very tight lipped about who they allow in their league.
We all want to live by each other's happiness, not by each other's misery. We don't want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone and the earth is rich and can provide for everyone.
Yngvi
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands70 Posts
January 02 2013 15:41 GMT
#428
Siiiick! Been a fan of major since the early days when he practised with the eg guys. Great to see him accomplish his dream
Eskiya23
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands105 Posts
January 02 2013 15:45 GMT
#429
I'm really happy for Juanito, he is a very deep and analytical player. I've seen him in DeMuslims stream, coaching DeMuslim :D
Lets hope he shows us great games in the ProLeague, Juan fighting ~~!

Also I've tweeted a lot about Major's games, but I think he removed his twitter Q_Q
Wisdom. Judgement. Execution. Stream: twitch.tv/eskiyasc2 Twitter: @EskiyaSC
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
January 02 2013 15:51 GMT
#430
I wish him luck, but I can't help but express some concern that he might blow it like he did with TSL.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
January 02 2013 15:52 GMT
#431
It's true that Major's behavior has not been ideal in the past, but the fact that Root was willing to take him back AGAIN is a good sign. They trusted him enough to put their name on his t-shirt and that tells me he's probably not the same guy anymore.
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 02 2013 15:53 GMT
#432
On December 21 2012 07:35 Eiii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 12:43 Eiii wrote:
The cycle continues...


:3
lolspoon
Profile Joined March 2012
450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-02 15:59:57
January 02 2013 15:59 GMT
#433
On January 03 2013 00:40 bK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 00:34 lolspoon wrote:
lol bK, you are the typical butthurt who is only picking on the few bad things, but doesnt mention the good things, never. please stop

A few bad things are you kidding me? All my sources are directly from liquidpedia which are creditable sources. I cannot even fathom what else he has done that is not on liquidpedia. Looking at it from a objective standpoint it just boggles my mind why they would even consider someone like him. Just hope he is not taking advantage of their kindness because Kespa is very tight lipped about who they allow in their league.


Because his practice regimens cant compare with any other player? When you get screwed from 2 teams you can practice as much as you want and still you wont be able to show good results because you had to take care of ur food and surviving. There isnt any other foreigner that has better practice regimens if they have everything covered than Major, and it is also a good move by kespa to reach the foreigners. Proleague is all about practice and preparations and not soloing, but teamwork and practice under strict rules, which he himself stated in an interview you should read here on TL that its something he favors and its better for him.

Grab your pitchforks onto someone else, ok?
edit: if you would listen to Major anytime he was on SoTG it would help you to realize that heisnt that idiot you think he is.
NERD THATS TEH WAY WE LIEV
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
January 02 2013 15:59 GMT
#434
Lots of team switching, and lots of doubting, but it looks like in the end, his dream came true. Major grats! (pun intended)
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Nuzoybot
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands52 Posts
January 02 2013 16:03 GMT
#435
This is so cool there is an excalamation mark in the title!!
I hope Major does great, since he is one of the few great foreign terrans.
MateShade
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia736 Posts
January 02 2013 16:03 GMT
#436
Juan opportunity. Juan shot
Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
January 02 2013 16:04 GMT
#437
grats to major, hope he does well. would like to see him in PL
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ShinsoEU
Profile Joined April 2012
Bulgaria92 Posts
January 02 2013 16:08 GMT
#438
WHAT!
Only the strong survive, I got the scars to prove it.
nOondn
Profile Joined March 2011
564 Posts
January 02 2013 16:08 GMT
#439
On January 03 2013 00:40 bK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 00:34 lolspoon wrote:
lol bK, you are the typical butthurt who is only picking on the few bad things, but doesnt mention the good things, never. please stop

A few bad things are you kidding me? All my sources are directly from liquidpedia which are creditable sources. I cannot even fathom what else he has done that is not on liquidpedia. Looking at it from a objective standpoint it just boggles my mind why they would even consider someone like him. Just hope he is not taking advantage of their kindness because Kespa is very tight lipped about who they allow in their league.

Because,He passed their test ....
Mid Master Terran @ kr server fighting !!!
bK-
Profile Joined June 2012
United States326 Posts
January 02 2013 16:09 GMT
#440
On January 03 2013 00:59 lolspoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 00:40 bK- wrote:
On January 03 2013 00:34 lolspoon wrote:
lol bK, you are the typical butthurt who is only picking on the few bad things, but doesnt mention the good things, never. please stop

A few bad things are you kidding me? All my sources are directly from liquidpedia which are creditable sources. I cannot even fathom what else he has done that is not on liquidpedia. Looking at it from a objective standpoint it just boggles my mind why they would even consider someone like him. Just hope he is not taking advantage of their kindness because Kespa is very tight lipped about who they allow in their league.


Because his practice regimens cant compare with any other player? When you get screwed from 2 teams you can practice as much as you want and still you wont be able to show good results because you had to take care of ur food and surviving. There isnt any other foreigner that has better practice regimens if they have everything covered than Major, and it is also a good move by kespa to reach the foreigners. Proleague is all about practice and preparations and not soloing, but teamwork and practice under strict rules, which he himself stated in an interview you should read here on TL that its something he favors and its better for him.

Grab your pitchforks onto someone else, ok?
edit: if you would listen to Major anytime he was on SoTG it would help you to realize that heisnt that idiot you think he is.

I am not questioning his intelligence at all but I do put into question his attitude. Time and time again he has shown little to no change in his attitude. How he practices etc.. etc.. has no factor in how he has acted. I would side with you if it was just a few spread out cases that he lost it due to frustration/lack of results. Unfortunately he has kept this attitude throughout his professional career as a SC2 player.
We all want to live by each other's happiness, not by each other's misery. We don't want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone and the earth is rich and can provide for everyone.
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