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[Interview] 2012 GSL S1 CodeS RO32 Group D Winners - Page 2

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Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
January 13 2012 04:18 GMT
#21
Oz totally does not look 24 but that's an asian thing

Every picture I see of Curious, he looks like some hard-knuckled thug. Seriously, I cannot imagine him anything other than Boss mode. Him and Bomber standing side by side in Boss mode would make for an awesome photo
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 13 2012 04:22 GMT
#22
Trash-talking Slayers? Aw hell no!

Slayers do need to prepare themselves though, FXO has over the past few months become a persistent "obstacle" in Slayers' path to SC2 world domination.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 13 2012 04:36 GMT
#23
On January 13 2012 12:57 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Lol. Oz is in way over his head if he thinks he can waltz through SlayerS terrans.


Slayers Terrans (with the exception of Teaja) are universally weak in TvP. And Oz has one of the best PvTs in Korea at the moment.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
January 13 2012 04:39 GMT
#24
On January 13 2012 12:57 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Lol. Oz is in way over his head if he thinks he can waltz through SlayerS terrans.


Yeah, you don't know much about the korean sc2 scene, do you?
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 04:47:13
January 13 2012 04:45 GMT
#25
I think Oz is right, deciding picking rights based on GSL points doesn't seem like a very fair system.

I assumed that 1) all GSL points would reset at the beginning of 2012 and 2) who gets picking rights would be decided by what happened the previous tournament. It's kind of difficult though, because the group selection is in the ro16, and the previous season's top 8 are seeded into the ro32 only. So you end up with the situation that there's no guarantee the top 4 from the previous season will even be in the ro16. Even so, if they stick with this system and don't reset the points then MVP, MMA and Nestea are going to be picking first for as long as they can stay in Code S for, at least until the end of this year.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 13 2012 04:51 GMT
#26
On January 13 2012 13:45 FuRong wrote:
I think Oz is right, deciding picking rights based on GSL points doesn't seem like a very fair system.

I assumed that 1) all GSL points would reset at the beginning of 2012 and 2) who gets picking rights would be decided by what happened the previous tournament. It's kind of difficult though, because the group selection is in the ro16, and the previous season's top 8 are seeded into the ro32 only. So you end up with the situation that there's no guarantee the top 4 from the previous season will even be in the ro16. Even so, if they stick with this system and don't reset the points then MVP, MMA and Nestea are going to be picking first for as long as they can stay in Code S for, at least until the end of this year.


As far as I know (and remember), GSL stated that they'd use last year's points for this season since they have no basis yet (so might as well take the total of last year, instead of just the latest season? Not sure about how logical that is though), then reset and use this season's points for next season.
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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
January 13 2012 04:52 GMT
#27
On January 13 2012 13:51 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 13:45 FuRong wrote:
I think Oz is right, deciding picking rights based on GSL points doesn't seem like a very fair system.

I assumed that 1) all GSL points would reset at the beginning of 2012 and 2) who gets picking rights would be decided by what happened the previous tournament. It's kind of difficult though, because the group selection is in the ro16, and the previous season's top 8 are seeded into the ro32 only. So you end up with the situation that there's no guarantee the top 4 from the previous season will even be in the ro16. Even so, if they stick with this system and don't reset the points then MVP, MMA and Nestea are going to be picking first for as long as they can stay in Code S for, at least until the end of this year.


As far as I know (and remember), GSL stated that they'd use last year's points for this season since they have no basis yet (so might as well take the total of last year, instead of just the latest season? Not sure about how logical that is though), then reset and use this season's points for next season.

Who needs a basis? Just pick names out of a hat if you don't have any other fair way of picking groups. I find picking by points to be pretty unfair
FlyingDike
Profile Joined December 2011
United States221 Posts
January 13 2012 05:00 GMT
#28
Thanks! Can you translate group B as well? :O
MikeTheBike
Profile Joined July 2011
New Zealand136 Posts
January 13 2012 05:23 GMT
#29
On January 13 2012 14:00 FlyingDike wrote:
Thanks! Can you translate group B as well? :O


He has translated all the groups so far, you can just search for them.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 05:37:39
January 13 2012 05:37 GMT
#30
So much bromance. Nestea <3 Oz Curious <3 Bomber.

On January 13 2012 12:57 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Lol. Oz is in way over his head if he thinks he can waltz through SlayerS terrans.


Lol, SlayerS fans.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 13 2012 05:39 GMT
#31
On January 13 2012 13:52 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 13:51 lichter wrote:
On January 13 2012 13:45 FuRong wrote:
I think Oz is right, deciding picking rights based on GSL points doesn't seem like a very fair system.

I assumed that 1) all GSL points would reset at the beginning of 2012 and 2) who gets picking rights would be decided by what happened the previous tournament. It's kind of difficult though, because the group selection is in the ro16, and the previous season's top 8 are seeded into the ro32 only. So you end up with the situation that there's no guarantee the top 4 from the previous season will even be in the ro16. Even so, if they stick with this system and don't reset the points then MVP, MMA and Nestea are going to be picking first for as long as they can stay in Code S for, at least until the end of this year.


As far as I know (and remember), GSL stated that they'd use last year's points for this season since they have no basis yet (so might as well take the total of last year, instead of just the latest season? Not sure about how logical that is though), then reset and use this season's points for next season.

Who needs a basis? Just pick names out of a hat if you don't have any other fair way of picking groups. I find picking by points to be pretty unfair


While I agree that the choice to base it on Points is unfair to last season's top performers, I don't agree that it should be done at random. Of course performance should be rewarded. Like Mvp and Oz complained, they should have just given the seeds to the top 4 or 8 from last season and do that for every season, instead of relying on a running tally of GSL points.
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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4391 Posts
January 13 2012 07:03 GMT
#32
On January 13 2012 14:39 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 13:52 HolyArrow wrote:
On January 13 2012 13:51 lichter wrote:
On January 13 2012 13:45 FuRong wrote:
I think Oz is right, deciding picking rights based on GSL points doesn't seem like a very fair system.

I assumed that 1) all GSL points would reset at the beginning of 2012 and 2) who gets picking rights would be decided by what happened the previous tournament. It's kind of difficult though, because the group selection is in the ro16, and the previous season's top 8 are seeded into the ro32 only. So you end up with the situation that there's no guarantee the top 4 from the previous season will even be in the ro16. Even so, if they stick with this system and don't reset the points then MVP, MMA and Nestea are going to be picking first for as long as they can stay in Code S for, at least until the end of this year.


As far as I know (and remember), GSL stated that they'd use last year's points for this season since they have no basis yet (so might as well take the total of last year, instead of just the latest season? Not sure about how logical that is though), then reset and use this season's points for next season.

Who needs a basis? Just pick names out of a hat if you don't have any other fair way of picking groups. I find picking by points to be pretty unfair


While I agree that the choice to base it on Points is unfair to last season's top performers, I don't agree that it should be done at random. Of course performance should be rewarded. Like Mvp and Oz complained, they should have just given the seeds to the top 4 or 8 from last season and do that for every season, instead of relying on a running tally of GSL points.


Except last seasons top 8 frequently don't make the ro16. How would you decide who gets Leenock's picks since he is already out? Points is the fairest possible way IMO.
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
January 13 2012 07:13 GMT
#33
Nestea must have practiced with Oz before, no wonder why Oz's PvZ got much better.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
January 13 2012 07:25 GMT
#34
On January 13 2012 14:37 red4ce wrote:
So much bromance. Nestea <3 Oz Curious <3 Bomber.

Rofl, I know, right?

Well, Bomber, I hope Curious is buying you boatloads of tasty food right now.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 13 2012 07:26 GMT
#35
On January 13 2012 00:40 Weirdkid wrote:
Even though I also want to play against him, but I think the round of 16 is not the right time for us to play against each other. Please, Nestea hyung, I love you...


On January 13 2012 00:40 Weirdkid wrote:
This is not good news. I hope that more Zergs will advance so we can unite our forces. Even though it's hard to play against Terran, I think that my ZvT is still acceptable.


2 gems in the interviews...

Oz having bromance to Nestea, and Curious sending out a call to arms for Zerg brothers ^_^
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 13 2012 07:26 GMT
#36
Since they had a change of format for group ceremonies this year, there wasn't much they could do about 'fairness'. They couldn't let the top 8 picks like before because there is only 4 groups. Guess they could have let top 4 pick but since not all 4 are sure to make it to Ro16, you get situation where you might have 1-2 spots open. Which you can give to 5-8 but how would that be decided? Any type of random draw would be just as unfair as well. I think they went with 2011 GSL points because they used that for the tiers for Ro32 as well so at least it is consistent.

I think the players (MVP, Oz) voiced out their opinions because this change was made AFTER Nov GSL which the top 8 though they would get to pick the next season. So they kinda felt this was taken away (same thing with Blizz Cup invitations, was suppose to be Top 10 GSL points). I think if this change was made before the Nov GSL, then it would have been better. But I understand the GOM might not have decided on the format until later.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 13 2012 07:54 GMT
#37
On January 13 2012 16:03 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 14:39 lichter wrote:
On January 13 2012 13:52 HolyArrow wrote:
On January 13 2012 13:51 lichter wrote:
On January 13 2012 13:45 FuRong wrote:
I think Oz is right, deciding picking rights based on GSL points doesn't seem like a very fair system.

I assumed that 1) all GSL points would reset at the beginning of 2012 and 2) who gets picking rights would be decided by what happened the previous tournament. It's kind of difficult though, because the group selection is in the ro16, and the previous season's top 8 are seeded into the ro32 only. So you end up with the situation that there's no guarantee the top 4 from the previous season will even be in the ro16. Even so, if they stick with this system and don't reset the points then MVP, MMA and Nestea are going to be picking first for as long as they can stay in Code S for, at least until the end of this year.


As far as I know (and remember), GSL stated that they'd use last year's points for this season since they have no basis yet (so might as well take the total of last year, instead of just the latest season? Not sure about how logical that is though), then reset and use this season's points for next season.

Who needs a basis? Just pick names out of a hat if you don't have any other fair way of picking groups. I find picking by points to be pretty unfair


While I agree that the choice to base it on Points is unfair to last season's top performers, I don't agree that it should be done at random. Of course performance should be rewarded. Like Mvp and Oz complained, they should have just given the seeds to the top 4 or 8 from last season and do that for every season, instead of relying on a running tally of GSL points.


Except last seasons top 8 frequently don't make the ro16. How would you decide who gets Leenock's picks since he is already out? Points is the fairest possible way IMO.


I understand that flukes can make it to the Ro8 or even Ro4, but the problem with using only points is that players can rely on really old results to keep getting seeded despite not really earning it (aside from making it to the seeded groups). Even though everyone loves MC, his recent exploits in the GSL don't deserve for him to get seeded, but he's still 3rd in GSL points because of early wins in 2011. The rest of the top 10 include Polt, MKP, TOP, NaDa, and July. Do those players really deserve the seed more than jjakji or Oz? Arguable for some, not really for most. It's really difficult to find a system that rewards consistency and recent results, I agree, and points should definitely matter.. but I can understand how some of the younger, newer players are upset with it.
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double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
January 13 2012 10:20 GMT
#38
On January 13 2012 12:57 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Lol. Oz is in way over his head if he thinks he can waltz through SlayerS terrans.



well At least he can beat Ganzi with ease.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
January 13 2012 10:38 GMT
#39
Oz praying NesTea for his life Gl to both in the ro16
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ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
January 13 2012 10:47 GMT
#40
Didn't know that NesTea and Oz were so close, so cute to see :D Sad that Curious had to beat Bomber to pass :S
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