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Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
January 05 2012 22:42 GMT
#61
On January 06 2012 07:41 Leifish wrote:
Goddammit, please just invite Puma into GSL.

If he can't qualify, he doesn't deserve to be there, lol.
CP-Jun
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia278 Posts
January 05 2012 23:47 GMT
#62
You guys are forgetting that the Code A qualifiers is the hardest tournament. It's harder than remaining in Code A and Code S.
SlayerS_Min's Translator I Voluntary translator for the community I Commentator during Min's stream I Own channel coming soon
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
January 05 2012 23:56 GMT
#63
Good work Ace, hope you'll be able to following your teammate Parting's example and head straight to Code S.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Goshdarnit
Profile Joined August 2011
United States540 Posts
January 06 2012 00:11 GMT
#64
On January 06 2012 07:42 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 07:41 Leifish wrote:
Goddammit, please just invite Puma into GSL.

If he can't qualify, he doesn't deserve to be there, lol.


I like puma and feel like shit cus he didnt make it in. Also is the quote above serious? Cus there are many players who have never been in any Code of the GSL that are getting into Code A. And lets be honest, Demuslim, and the Chinese players don't "deserve" code A no matter how much I like them.
Also I would love to see Demuslim or Xigua beat Puma or sage, or any of the other great players that got knocked out in qualifying.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
January 06 2012 00:16 GMT
#65
On January 06 2012 01:02 CP-Jun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 00:53 Goibon wrote:
Yay Ace, hope he can make some noise in Code A.

Lure's interview was pretty hilarious to me for some reason. I hope he gets a team.

Thanks for translates!


That might be because I used 'bro' to translate Hyung : ) I am from Hamilton : P

Yeah that's definitely it :D

hi5!
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
January 06 2012 00:16 GMT
#66
On January 06 2012 09:11 Goshdarnit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 07:42 Shiori wrote:
On January 06 2012 07:41 Leifish wrote:
Goddammit, please just invite Puma into GSL.

If he can't qualify, he doesn't deserve to be there, lol.


I like puma and feel like shit cus he didnt make it in. Also is the quote above serious? Cus there are many players who have never been in any Code of the GSL that are getting into Code A. And lets be honest, Demuslim, and the Chinese players don't "deserve" code A no matter how much I like them.
Also I would love to see Demuslim or Xigua beat Puma or sage, or any of the other great players that got knocked out in qualifying.

Just because undeserving players have gotten invites it doesn't mean Puma deserves one.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
January 06 2012 00:21 GMT
#67
On January 06 2012 09:11 Goshdarnit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 07:42 Shiori wrote:
On January 06 2012 07:41 Leifish wrote:
Goddammit, please just invite Puma into GSL.

If he can't qualify, he doesn't deserve to be there, lol.


I like puma and feel like shit cus he didnt make it in. Also is the quote above serious? Cus there are many players who have never been in any Code of the GSL that are getting into Code A. And lets be honest, Demuslim, and the Chinese players don't "deserve" code A no matter how much I like them.
Also I would love to see Demuslim or Xigua beat Puma or sage, or any of the other great players that got knocked out in qualifying.

"Deserve" is such a tricky word.

GOM wants foreign players. Therefore they invite foreign players into the GSL based on how well they've done in international tournaments, and those players "deserve" to be there because GOM has decided that they're good enough to compete. Unfortunately for Puma, he's Korean and Korean-trained. Therefore he needs to qualify the regular way to show GOM he "deserves" to be in the GSL. It's affirmative action.
fishuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States369 Posts
January 06 2012 00:37 GMT
#68
Yay, Ace and StC! Thanks for the translations
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
January 06 2012 00:41 GMT
#69
So happy for TheStC. Thanks for the interviews!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
January 06 2012 00:41 GMT
#70
On January 06 2012 07:29 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Puma lost AGAIN???

Jesus

Maybe puma should be considered foreigner and get an invite?

Now we are totally going crazy here.
seeds are not given cause your favorite player not got passed through the qualiefiers, at least they shouldn't be.
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
January 06 2012 00:42 GMT
#71
Great interviews. It seems no one was practicing over the holiday, lucky for StC ^^

Thanks for translating, can't wait for the rest
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
January 06 2012 00:42 GMT
#72
Yay for TheStC and Life!
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
yoonstar91
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
88 Posts
January 06 2012 00:48 GMT
#73
dannng sooon. this is alot of translation. SlayerS gotta love you. hahaha keep up the good work!
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
January 06 2012 00:53 GMT
#74
Q : You came back after five seasons.

I didn't know it had been that long. It maybe because I quitted a game momentarily. When I left MVP I didn't play the game and just rested awhile then started to play again.


So many amazing players can't even qualify for code A even once, but Lure takes 5 months off and gets in. What a boss.
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
January 06 2012 00:58 GMT
#75
On January 06 2012 09:21 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 09:11 Goshdarnit wrote:
On January 06 2012 07:42 Shiori wrote:
On January 06 2012 07:41 Leifish wrote:
Goddammit, please just invite Puma into GSL.

If he can't qualify, he doesn't deserve to be there, lol.


I like puma and feel like shit cus he didnt make it in. Also is the quote above serious? Cus there are many players who have never been in any Code of the GSL that are getting into Code A. And lets be honest, Demuslim, and the Chinese players don't "deserve" code A no matter how much I like them.
Also I would love to see Demuslim or Xigua beat Puma or sage, or any of the other great players that got knocked out in qualifying.

"Deserve" is such a tricky word.

GOM wants foreign players. Therefore they invite foreign players into the GSL based on how well they've done in international tournaments, and those players "deserve" to be there because GOM has decided that they're good enough to compete. Unfortunately for Puma, he's Korean and Korean-trained. Therefore he needs to qualify the regular way to show GOM he "deserves" to be in the GSL. It's affirmative action.


"deserves" is such a bad word to use. Gom knows very well that skill wise foreigners do not deserve to get an automatic seed. Even if they are good enough to be code S caliber, so are many of the Code A applicants who can't get in. Instead sc2 is a business. From a business standpoint they should bring in whoever brings in the most views. The problem is that from this standpoint, they really should be inviting Koreans such as Hero and Puma because they have a large foreign following and happen to be on foreign teams. However if they do this, it sets the precedent that joining a foreigner team is the sure way to get code s. This in turn will destroy the prestige of the league even more so. Obviously by giving foreign invites, the tournament is destroying the prestige, but if they didn't do so we eventually won't have a league from lacking of funding.

My only hope right now is that when Kespa does switch over, they will generate a fully functional, well-funded, and thoroughly viewed league that doesn't need to give need to give out foreign invites to remain sustainable.

It is for these reasons that I really admire and respect Jinro for not taking an invite that he didn't earn. A much more honorable approach when contrasted to Naniwa who took not one, nor two, but THREE code A invites. Then after he failed to qualify ALL 3 times, he gladly took a FREE code S seed, until Gom rescinded it for bad behavior.

Also before people start coming in arguing that Naniwa is code S level, listen to this. Yes, Naniwa may be good enough for code s, BUT so are many of the players still stuck in Code A. There's no reason other than increased viewership that Naniwa should get into Code S for free.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
January 06 2012 01:13 GMT
#76
On January 06 2012 09:58 BackSideAttack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 09:21 babylon wrote:
On January 06 2012 09:11 Goshdarnit wrote:
On January 06 2012 07:42 Shiori wrote:
On January 06 2012 07:41 Leifish wrote:
Goddammit, please just invite Puma into GSL.

If he can't qualify, he doesn't deserve to be there, lol.


I like puma and feel like shit cus he didnt make it in. Also is the quote above serious? Cus there are many players who have never been in any Code of the GSL that are getting into Code A. And lets be honest, Demuslim, and the Chinese players don't "deserve" code A no matter how much I like them.
Also I would love to see Demuslim or Xigua beat Puma or sage, or any of the other great players that got knocked out in qualifying.

"Deserve" is such a tricky word.

GOM wants foreign players. Therefore they invite foreign players into the GSL based on how well they've done in international tournaments, and those players "deserve" to be there because GOM has decided that they're good enough to compete. Unfortunately for Puma, he's Korean and Korean-trained. Therefore he needs to qualify the regular way to show GOM he "deserves" to be in the GSL. It's affirmative action.


"deserves" is such a bad word to use. Gom knows very well that skill wise foreigners do not deserve to get an automatic seed. Even if they are good enough to be code S caliber, so are many of the Code A applicants who can't get in. Instead sc2 is a business. From a business standpoint they should bring in whoever brings in the most views. The problem is that from this standpoint, they really should be inviting Koreans such as Hero and Puma because they have a large foreign following and happen to be on foreign teams. However if they do this, it sets the precedent that joining a foreigner team is the sure way to get code s. This in turn will destroy the prestige of the league even more so. Obviously by giving foreign invites, the tournament is destroying the prestige, but if they didn't do so we eventually won't have a league from lacking of funding.

My only hope right now is that when Kespa does switch over, they will generate a fully functional, well-funded, and thoroughly viewed league that doesn't need to give need to give out foreign invites to remain sustainable.

It is for these reasons that I really admire and respect Jinro for not taking an invite that he didn't earn. A much more honorable approach when contrasted to Naniwa who took not one, nor two, but THREE code A invites. Then after he failed to qualify ALL 3 times, he gladly took a FREE code S seed, until Gom rescinded it for bad behavior.

Also before people start coming in arguing that Naniwa is code S level, listen to this. Yes, Naniwa may be good enough for code s, BUT so are many of the players still stuck in Code A. There's no reason other than increased viewership that Naniwa should get into Code S for free.

Well, a few things:

1.) I think it's healthier for the sport to foster a more international scene. You reach out to more people, and overall, you have more money flowing into the scene (esp. a scene like SC2, whose Korean scene is like a candle compared to the sun of BW), which will hopefully help it grow. If this means giving out foreign invites, then go ahead. (This coming from someone who doesn't consider nationality when picking players to root for; I'm pretty sure I can count on one hand the number of foreigners I genuinely like to watch play). I don't think "hoping" for KeSPA to come in and completely cut off foreign involvement is good to do for the sake of the sport, even if the alternative means driving down the competition a little.

2.) My issue with the Naniwa argument you're making is that ... well, he clearly pulls in the viewers and a good number of foreign tournament winnings. If they hadn't invited him from MLG, they'd just have ended up inviting another foreigner from MLG who was just overall not as good a player, which would drive down the competition even more.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 03:08:22
January 06 2012 03:06 GMT
#77
On January 06 2012 10:13 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 09:58 BackSideAttack wrote:
On January 06 2012 09:21 babylon wrote:
On January 06 2012 09:11 Goshdarnit wrote:
On January 06 2012 07:42 Shiori wrote:
On January 06 2012 07:41 Leifish wrote:
Goddammit, please just invite Puma into GSL.

If he can't qualify, he doesn't deserve to be there, lol.


I like puma and feel like shit cus he didnt make it in. Also is the quote above serious? Cus there are many players who have never been in any Code of the GSL that are getting into Code A. And lets be honest, Demuslim, and the Chinese players don't "deserve" code A no matter how much I like them.
Also I would love to see Demuslim or Xigua beat Puma or sage, or any of the other great players that got knocked out in qualifying.

"Deserve" is such a tricky word.

GOM wants foreign players. Therefore they invite foreign players into the GSL based on how well they've done in international tournaments, and those players "deserve" to be there because GOM has decided that they're good enough to compete. Unfortunately for Puma, he's Korean and Korean-trained. Therefore he needs to qualify the regular way to show GOM he "deserves" to be in the GSL. It's affirmative action.


"deserves" is such a bad word to use. Gom knows very well that skill wise foreigners do not deserve to get an automatic seed. Even if they are good enough to be code S caliber, so are many of the Code A applicants who can't get in. Instead sc2 is a business. From a business standpoint they should bring in whoever brings in the most views. The problem is that from this standpoint, they really should be inviting Koreans such as Hero and Puma because they have a large foreign following and happen to be on foreign teams. However if they do this, it sets the precedent that joining a foreigner team is the sure way to get code s. This in turn will destroy the prestige of the league even more so. Obviously by giving foreign invites, the tournament is destroying the prestige, but if they didn't do so we eventually won't have a league from lacking of funding.

My only hope right now is that when Kespa does switch over, they will generate a fully functional, well-funded, and thoroughly viewed league that doesn't need to give need to give out foreign invites to remain sustainable.

It is for these reasons that I really admire and respect Jinro for not taking an invite that he didn't earn. A much more honorable approach when contrasted to Naniwa who took not one, nor two, but THREE code A invites. Then after he failed to qualify ALL 3 times, he gladly took a FREE code S seed, until Gom rescinded it for bad behavior.

Also before people start coming in arguing that Naniwa is code S level, listen to this. Yes, Naniwa may be good enough for code s, BUT so are many of the players still stuck in Code A. There's no reason other than increased viewership that Naniwa should get into Code S for free.

Well, a few things:

1.) I think it's healthier for the sport to foster a more international scene. You reach out to more people, and overall, you have more money flowing into the scene (esp. a scene like SC2, whose Korean scene is like a candle compared to the sun of BW), which will hopefully help it grow. If this means giving out foreign invites, then go ahead. (This coming from someone who doesn't consider nationality when picking players to root for; I'm pretty sure I can count on one hand the number of foreigners I genuinely like to watch play). I don't think "hoping" for KeSPA to come in and completely cut off foreign involvement is good to do for the sake of the sport, even if the alternative means driving down the competition a little.

2.) My issue with the Naniwa argument you're making is that ... well, he clearly pulls in the viewers and a good number of foreign tournament winnings. If they hadn't invited him from MLG, they'd just have ended up inviting another foreigner from MLG who was just overall not as good a player, which would drive down the competition even more.

I really have to disagree with your point 1 here.
Fostering is something that should happen locally.
Fostering is something that should NOT happen in the most prestegious tournament in the world. That is not fostering, that is simply giving "weaker" players a free pass. This kind of stuff is hurting the reputation of the tournament.
person A : "Yea its the biggest tournament in the world with the best players"
person B: All fine and well but how did x got through the qualifiers exactly?"
person A : he didn't, he got a free spot cause he has a different skin color"

Just look at this thread, i hope it was joking but people want to give Puma a free code A spot now as well.
Why? Cause he plays in foreigner tournaments yet he fails to qualify the way the rest does.
Hell now, they even give code S spots away for free, i wonder how this will end...
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
January 06 2012 23:57 GMT
#78
No interviews for Day 2?
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
mcmartini
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1972 Posts
January 07 2012 00:00 GMT
#79
HI thanks for this, I was wondering if anyone else got a warning from chrome about malware when attempting to open this thread. It kept telling me that this page was linking to a site known to distribute malware?
I just want to say I have 370 APM - Liquid'Tyler SotG 14-12-2011 "I mean it's too bad you can't be paid to be, you know, a chicken shit fucking whiny bitch on the internet or we would have lots of rich community members" Nick "Tasteless" Plott
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
January 07 2012 00:10 GMT
#80
Only 2 terrans?? What is happening to the GSL
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