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Grond
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
599 Posts
October 17 2010 11:44 GMT
#141
Considering how Huk emphasized the problem with players being able to hear the caster/crowd in the latest State of the Game I wonder if he did this to prove his point.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
October 17 2010 11:44 GMT
#142
i commend huk for entertaining the crowd but wonder what a good match/series it might have been had he taken it more seriously.

in any case, i hope huk remembers that he can't all chat in the GSL or it is instant dq. Someone need to continually reminds me.

And sad that mothership, the ultimate weapon of the protoss army is seen as more of a joke unit these days.
spacemonkeyy
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia477 Posts
October 17 2010 11:44 GMT
#143
My tribute to HuK

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/92036-1v1-protoss-zerg-xelnaga-caverns

Fitzhunt1
Profile Joined February 2010
United States169 Posts
October 17 2010 11:44 GMT
#144
Hey I was sitting right behind you :D I'm glad you put the vid up!
Blizzcon exclusive no donuts.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
October 17 2010 11:44 GMT
#145
He did it for the fans that cheered for him. People get invited to tournaments for different reasons it isn't necessarily cause you win each time.
There's no S in KT. :P
Meriones
Profile Joined October 2010
43 Posts
October 17 2010 11:52 GMT
#146

On October 17 2010 20:44 Grond wrote:
Considering how Huk emphasized the problem with players being able to hear the caster/crowd in the latest State of the Game I wonder if he did this to prove his point.



They can hear the casters too? That's so sad to hear and basically means the integrity of those games is gone.

Remember how in Korea they called it cheating when a player picked up a tell from the audience. So was Select cheating when he attacked and killed the nexus?

When do players know something through skill and when through the audience/casters. I have quite a few moments that may be suspicious. Is changing your play based on what you hear part of the game?
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
October 17 2010 11:56 GMT
#147
On October 17 2010 20:52 Meriones wrote:

Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 20:44 Grond wrote:
Considering how Huk emphasized the problem with players being able to hear the caster/crowd in the latest State of the Game I wonder if he did this to prove his point.



They can hear the casters too? That's so sad to hear and basically means the integrity of those games is gone.

Remember how in Korea they called it cheating when a player picked up a tell from the audience. So was Select cheating when he attacked and killed the nexus?

When do players know something through skill and when through the audience/casters. I have quite a few moments that may be suspicious. Is changing your play based on what you hear part of the game?


Obviously from a competitive standpoint for gaming you would not want players receiving outside influences and incorporating that to change the dynamic of the game.

But that is the responsibility of the people running the tourney, not the players.
True skill comes without effort.
MasterVelVet
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium132 Posts
October 17 2010 11:58 GMT
#148
On October 17 2010 13:08 clik wrote:
It's great to see high level players show that they play for fun and entertainment sometimes despite all the tension and things on the line. I'm definitely a HuK fan.


Totally agree with that. Sometimes players forget why we actually play this game, HuK is definitely not one of them !
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 12:10:10
October 17 2010 12:02 GMT
#149
well i hope huk shapes up and dont lose hope in the middle of important games like this. its quite a classic choking to do what ppl want u to do in a series. regardless if ur up 1-0 or down 0-1.

if he wants to win gsl he has to start play every game to 100% with head up high win attitude and not care about what ppl want him to do.

some might call it innovating but if thats the case then its clearly just a sign of desperation, not expecting to be able to beat select in a standard game. which i dont believe in since i know how good huk is in tvp.

id have alot more respect for huk fighting with what he practiced in the ladder until the end rather than jumping completely off the standards and goes like this, sure it could have been mind games but i find that hard to believe aswell.
i hope he gets more lan experience before he starts getting far into gsl because id hate to see him go like this again when hes really capable of winning vs everyone in a tour like mlg...
select is a fucking beast who been winning everyone in tvp lately so i somewhat understand where huks mindset was at doing this :p

if your true fans of huk you shouldnt trigger him into making motherships and playing fun, see how that ends up going (i know u didnt scream make mothership) but in general fans r always telling their players to be creative xD
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Titan Rain
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3 Posts
October 17 2010 12:27 GMT
#150
HuK, the peoples champion!!!
Call me Ishmael
Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
October 17 2010 12:27 GMT
#151
HuK: the people's champion.
Teching to hive too quickly isn't just a risk: it's an ultrarisk
SUSUGAM
Profile Joined November 2007
United States177 Posts
October 17 2010 13:42 GMT
#152
spoiled entire tourney without any spoiler tags :D hi5
bisufanboi049
devolore
Profile Joined April 2010
United States70 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 14:16:42
October 17 2010 14:03 GMT
#153
On October 17 2010 21:02 MorroW wrote:
well i hope huk shapes up and dont lose hope in the middle of important games like this. its quite a classic choking to do what ppl want u to do in a series. regardless if ur up 1-0 or down 0-1.

if he wants to win gsl he has to start play every game to 100% with head up high win attitude and not care about what ppl want him to do.

some might call it innovating but if thats the case then its clearly just a sign of desperation, not expecting to be able to beat select in a standard game. which i dont believe in since i know how good huk is in tvp.

id have alot more respect for huk fighting with what he practiced in the ladder until the end rather than jumping completely off the standards and goes like this, sure it could have been mind games but i find that hard to believe aswell.
i hope he gets more lan experience before he starts getting far into gsl because id hate to see him go like this again when hes really capable of winning vs everyone in a tour like mlg...
select is a fucking beast who been winning everyone in tvp lately so i somewhat understand where huks mindset was at doing this :p

if your true fans of huk you shouldnt trigger him into making motherships and playing fun, see how that ends up going (i know u didnt scream make mothership) but in general fans r always telling their players to be creative xD


Or maybe he just wanted to have some fun

EDIT: Someone on Reddit (possibly in this thread as well, haven't read the whole thing) pointed out that HuK probably gained far more than he lost with this move as well. Yeah he ended up taking 4th and could maybe have taken 3rd, so that's a "loss" of $300 and some rank points. But he gained so much fandom and hype as a result. "tahts halo, dont worry" is going to stick around for a while, I think...
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
October 17 2010 14:14 GMT
#154
On October 17 2010 23:03 devolore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 21:02 MorroW wrote:
well i hope huk shapes up and dont lose hope in the middle of important games like this. its quite a classic choking to do what ppl want u to do in a series. regardless if ur up 1-0 or down 0-1.

if he wants to win gsl he has to start play every game to 100% with head up high win attitude and not care about what ppl want him to do.

some might call it innovating but if thats the case then its clearly just a sign of desperation, not expecting to be able to beat select in a standard game. which i dont believe in since i know how good huk is in tvp.

id have alot more respect for huk fighting with what he practiced in the ladder until the end rather than jumping completely off the standards and goes like this, sure it could have been mind games but i find that hard to believe aswell.
i hope he gets more lan experience before he starts getting far into gsl because id hate to see him go like this again when hes really capable of winning vs everyone in a tour like mlg...
select is a fucking beast who been winning everyone in tvp lately so i somewhat understand where huks mindset was at doing this :p

if your true fans of huk you shouldnt trigger him into making motherships and playing fun, see how that ends up going (i know u didnt scream make mothership) but in general fans r always telling their players to be creative xD


Or maybe he just wanted to have some fun

I don't think he was trying as much for "for the win" in MLG, he already won Raleigh and was guaranteed 3rd place in DC (and had already lost to IdrA 2-0). In GSL3, I doubt he would screw around since the stakes are much higher unless it was maybe a Bo7 and he was up a couple games (plus I don't know if any Koreans really know him to chant for him lol).
the farm ends here
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 14:31:17
October 17 2010 14:28 GMT
#155
On October 17 2010 23:03 devolore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 21:02 MorroW wrote:
well i hope huk shapes up and dont lose hope in the middle of important games like this. its quite a classic choking to do what ppl want u to do in a series. regardless if ur up 1-0 or down 0-1.

if he wants to win gsl he has to start play every game to 100% with head up high win attitude and not care about what ppl want him to do.

some might call it innovating but if thats the case then its clearly just a sign of desperation, not expecting to be able to beat select in a standard game. which i dont believe in since i know how good huk is in tvp.

id have alot more respect for huk fighting with what he practiced in the ladder until the end rather than jumping completely off the standards and goes like this, sure it could have been mind games but i find that hard to believe aswell.
i hope he gets more lan experience before he starts getting far into gsl because id hate to see him go like this again when hes really capable of winning vs everyone in a tour like mlg...
select is a fucking beast who been winning everyone in tvp lately so i somewhat understand where huks mindset was at doing this :p

if your true fans of huk you shouldnt trigger him into making motherships and playing fun, see how that ends up going (i know u didnt scream make mothership) but in general fans r always telling their players to be creative xD


Or maybe he just wanted to have some fun

EDIT: Someone on Reddit (possibly in this thread as well, haven't read the whole thing) pointed out that HuK probably gained far more than he lost with this move as well. Yeah he ended up taking 4th and could maybe have taken 3rd, so that's a "loss" of $300 and some rank points. But he gained so much fandom and hype as a result. "tahts halo, dont worry" is going to stick around for a while, I think...

huk has told me himself that he wants to be a successful progamer, he have said so in interviews aswell. last time i checked being successful is not to have a big fanbase or attention.
really doubt he travel there and fight hard in the tour and then just mothership because its fun lol, its silly u would even believe that urself. i dont think his TL liquid clan would appriciate it much for huk just to throw it to gain more fans, huk already has so many fans anyway :p

i dont actually know the mlg system if the game mattered or not but if it didnt matter then its pretty reasonable not to care:p
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
MLG.Shrew
Profile Joined July 2010
United States79 Posts
October 17 2010 14:33 GMT
#156
Single best moment in mlg sc2 crowd history so far.
PC Content Coordinator - www.mlgpro.com | EG Broadcast Production
unsaintly
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany687 Posts
October 17 2010 14:41 GMT
#157
Awesome from HuK, but MLG should consider to get some gaming booths for the casted matches or alteast get headsets like the ESL.
Fitzhunt1
Profile Joined February 2010
United States169 Posts
October 17 2010 14:42 GMT
#158
I think HuK was just trying to do something different since SelecT TvP is so amazingly strong. SelecT knock out TTOne 2,0, Liquid Tyler 4,3 And KiWiKaki 2,1 at mlg. You can see why he tried something out of the ordinary.
Blizzcon exclusive no donuts.
Gonzodamus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States273 Posts
October 17 2010 14:43 GMT
#159
On October 17 2010 21:02 MorroW wrote:
if your true fans of huk you shouldnt trigger him into making motherships and playing fun, see how that ends up going (i know u didnt scream make mothership) but in general fans r always telling their players to be creative xD


I disagree with that sentiment. As a player, I understand that your goal is to win, but as a spectator my goal is to be entertained. The most entertaining player will ultimately be my favorite to watch.

Watching sports is a vicarious experience and I think StarCraft works the same way. One of the things I personally don't like about Korean players is that in general they don't look like they're having fun. A lot of the players have the same expressions after wins and losses.

Fun play like Huk's mothership rush may not have been good for him in the short run, but it's definitely gotten people talking about him and the tournament, which I would argue is good for both him and esports in the long run.
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
October 17 2010 14:43 GMT
#160
would've been great if he didn't wind up getting pwned in the end. anybody can make a mothership while they are losing, but he is still pretty baller for doing it.
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