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vohne
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines197 Posts
October 17 2010 18:02 GMT
#201
I love HuK, HuK FIGHTING!
RushBoxer!
Profile Joined September 2010
United States173 Posts
October 17 2010 18:05 GMT
#202
On October 18 2010 00:36 tocador wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 00:19 echobong wrote:
On October 17 2010 18:34 let_FLY wrote:
i felt like it was a bit of a disrespectful move towards the viewers, but it is just my opinion. i want to see people give it there all, not throw games away like the way huk did.

at any rate, that was $500 mothership


I'd pay $500 bucks to be known as the coolest Toss player in SC2 right now that isn't a slave to tedious boring builds.


I'd do the same.

Now say whatever you haters say, if anyone is to ask Huk if he would rather have lost the way he did or won with normal play, im pretty sure he would have chosen to lost.

Money isnt there for you after dieng, but glory is eternal.


i would much rather be known for winning 2 MLG's in a row then losing to a failed mothership rush. But it was entertaining. If it was me I would want another go at IdrA.
spoons and forks
Goliathsorrow
Profile Joined September 2010
Italy317 Posts
October 17 2010 18:23 GMT
#203
On October 18 2010 03:05 RushBoxer! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 00:36 tocador wrote:
On October 18 2010 00:19 echobong wrote:
On October 17 2010 18:34 let_FLY wrote:
i felt like it was a bit of a disrespectful move towards the viewers, but it is just my opinion. i want to see people give it there all, not throw games away like the way huk did.

at any rate, that was $500 mothership


I'd pay $500 bucks to be known as the coolest Toss player in SC2 right now that isn't a slave to tedious boring builds.


I'd do the same.

Now say whatever you haters say, if anyone is to ask Huk if he would rather have lost the way he did or won with normal play, im pretty sure he would have chosen to lost.

Money isnt there for you after dieng, but glory is eternal.


i would much rather be known for winning 2 MLG's in a row then losing to a failed mothership rush. But it was entertaining. If it was me I would want another go at IdrA.

That's weird coming from a guy with that nick

Do u remember Boxer's SCV rush against YelloW ? if it failed we would have probably guys blaming him for throwing away a game like that but instead he won and got praised.
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
October 17 2010 18:26 GMT
#204
On October 18 2010 02:46 Cybren wrote:
You are a corporation looking to sponsor one person. Who do you sponsor?
A) Someone who plays very standard, and wins very plain, albeit dominating matches
B) Someone that can win a match with standard play, but also plays to the crowd and puts on a show, getting infinitely more exposure?


Flash makes a lot of money... and huk placed third.
True skill comes without effort.
leve15
Profile Joined August 2010
United States301 Posts
October 17 2010 18:29 GMT
#205
guys telling your opponent what you're doing isn't throwing the game ok?

making motherships is cool ok? (i agree, i do it in 3v3 all the time)


3v3
thesighter
Profile Joined July 2010
United States347 Posts
October 17 2010 18:46 GMT
#206
On October 18 2010 03:29 leve15 wrote:
guys telling your opponent what you're doing isn't throwing the game ok?

making motherships is cool ok? (i agree, i do it in 3v3 all the time)


3v3


Word to that. Huk gave up after game 1 and decided to throw the second game in order to please the crowd.

What a loser. You don't succeed in games or life with that type of attitude. He's going to fail hard at GSL 3.

"Wow, he made a mothership! That's so cool, he cares about his fans!!" Seriously...
MrShank
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada144 Posts
October 17 2010 18:51 GMT
#207
better video please, or replay.
Relax - its just a game
Onisparda
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada516 Posts
October 17 2010 18:56 GMT
#208
On October 18 2010 03:46 thesighter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 03:29 leve15 wrote:
guys telling your opponent what you're doing isn't throwing the game ok?

making motherships is cool ok? (i agree, i do it in 3v3 all the time)


3v3


Word to that. Huk gave up after game 1 and decided to throw the second game in order to please the crowd.

What a loser. You don't succeed in games or life with that type of attitude. He's going to fail hard at GSL 3.

"Wow, he made a mothership! That's so cool, he cares about his fans!!" Seriously...

Serious business man...
I bet your a very cheerful guy.
Grond
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
599 Posts
October 17 2010 19:19 GMT
#209
While I agree it was a suboptimal choice he didn't necessarily give the game away by going Mothership. With a really good Vortex he could have made it work.
ToxNub
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada805 Posts
October 17 2010 19:22 GMT
#210
Some of you guys need a sense of humour. Yeah, fine, he probably shouldn't mothership rush every game, but every now and then it's ok to do something weird. For all we know it might have worked. and if it didn't, who cares? It's one fucking game... it's not going to destroy your capability to play starcraft at a godly level the rest of the time.
thesighter
Profile Joined July 2010
United States347 Posts
October 17 2010 19:22 GMT
#211
On October 18 2010 04:22 ToxNub wrote:
Some of you guys need a sense of humour. Yeah, fine, he probably shouldn't mothership rush every game, but every now and then it's ok to do something weird. For all we know it might have worked. and if it didn't, who cares? It's one fucking game... it's not going to destroy your capability to play starcraft at a godly level the rest of the time.


On djWheat's show today, everyone (including idra) called HuK a retard. He's not going to be respected by other players for acting like a clown when he knows he's going to lose.

leve15
Profile Joined August 2010
United States301 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 19:25:27
October 17 2010 19:24 GMT
#212
Some of you guys need a sense of humour. Yeah, fine, he probably shouldn't mothership rush every game, but every now and then it's ok to do something weird. For all we know it might have worked. and if it didn't, who cares? It's one fucking game... it's not going to destroy your capability to play starcraft at a godly level the rest of the time.


That's not the issue.

He gave his strategy away and was completely unprofessional about it.

If you remember a certain thread a while back, huk was down on himself saying things like "i'll never make it" and stuff like that.

his mindset isn't that of a PROFESSIONAL gamer.
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 19:39:32
October 17 2010 19:25 GMT
#213
i stayed with huk during this MLG and he was really torn about this himself. here's what i've concluded, and you should listen because LOL i have a red name and thus hopefully some credibility:

- huk is confident. he practices 8 hours a day on his own even without the environment of a training house (yet) and has won in high profile, pressure-filled situations before, like last MLG or his return from being down 0-2 against drewbie at IEM. it's out of the question that he threw the match out of fear (also of idra), absolutely

- huk hates losing. i've seen progamers say this in person quite a few times now, and they say it always with that same surprising vehemence. it is incredibly unlikely he just gave up and saw the crowd as an excuse for why he lost - he jokes a lot, but once you meet him he's really really obviously an upstanding person and it just conflicts too much.



what it comes down to is that he did not have much of a conscious choice here. things like this are decided not by judgment but just by personality and who you are, and the moment he made the stargate it was probably the only option he saw - just like how many of you find it preposterous that ANYONE would EVER do this.

though i agree with idra and incontrol in that it was "really fucking stupid", unlike them i also think it was incredibly admirable. from my seat all the way up front i felt a palpable stream of love from across the entire crowd flowing towards huk. to them, it was a genuine, human charisma that beamed out and connected them to an actual player. even i clapped when the MOM popped, despite thinking "what the hell is he doing are you serious WHAT IF HE LOSES" the entire time it was building.

the fact that there's eleven pages now on a single game shows how the history of sc2 is being made constantly. i'm quite proud he did what he did, even though he's probably still regretting it! it is AWESOME for promoting interest in this whole serious business of ESPORTS that we dabble in here. haters gonna hate, but they'll still know his name. his fans are never going shut up about him being the peoples' champion now, it's gonna be utterly disgusting to have to listen to over and over.





PS: not trying to hype him up and say that he made some noble sacrifice, but was simply being who he was - apparently a very lovable person. huk, you like this e-peen stroking?
Moderatorhttps://soundcloud.com/castlesmusic/sets/oak
ToxNub
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada805 Posts
October 17 2010 19:31 GMT
#214
On October 18 2010 04:22 thesighter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 04:22 ToxNub wrote:
Some of you guys need a sense of humour. Yeah, fine, he probably shouldn't mothership rush every game, but every now and then it's ok to do something weird. For all we know it might have worked. and if it didn't, who cares? It's one fucking game... it's not going to destroy your capability to play starcraft at a godly level the rest of the time.


On djWheat's show today, everyone (including idra) called HuK a retard. He's not going to be respected by other players for acting like a clown when he knows he's going to lose.



Yeah, because Idra has the most imaginative play ever, I would have totally expected his endorsement. The same guy that doesn't think that anything but macro play is valid.

Seriously, if people are going to ride his ass for 1 game with an unconventional strat and talk a bunch of shit about his "attitude" and other stupid nonsense then maybe the SC2 pros are a bunch of anal nerds? Why would you even want their respect?
thesighter
Profile Joined July 2010
United States347 Posts
October 17 2010 19:38 GMT
#215
On October 18 2010 04:31 ToxNub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 04:22 thesighter wrote:
On October 18 2010 04:22 ToxNub wrote:
Some of you guys need a sense of humour. Yeah, fine, he probably shouldn't mothership rush every game, but every now and then it's ok to do something weird. For all we know it might have worked. and if it didn't, who cares? It's one fucking game... it's not going to destroy your capability to play starcraft at a godly level the rest of the time.


On djWheat's show today, everyone (including idra) called HuK a retard. He's not going to be respected by other players for acting like a clown when he knows he's going to lose.



Yeah, because Idra has the most imaginative play ever, I would have totally expected his endorsement. The same guy that doesn't think that anything but macro play is valid.

Seriously, if people are going to ride his ass for 1 game with an unconventional strat and talk a bunch of shit about his "attitude" and other stupid nonsense then maybe the SC2 pros are a bunch of anal nerds? Why would you even want their respect?


Nearly everyone on the show today agreed that HuK was a retard, not just idra.
How is building a mothership and losing imaginative? Huk's done his fail mothership in the past as well. Idra's hydra/spine game against HuK was much more impressive.
Cybren
Profile Joined February 2010
United States206 Posts
October 17 2010 19:38 GMT
#216
On October 18 2010 03:26 robertdinh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 02:46 Cybren wrote:
You are a corporation looking to sponsor one person. Who do you sponsor?
A) Someone who plays very standard, and wins very plain, albeit dominating matches
B) Someone that can win a match with standard play, but also plays to the crowd and puts on a show, getting infinitely more exposure?


Flash makes a lot of money... and huk placed third.

Flash is not playing in an up and coming market competing for attention
The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
HuK
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1591 Posts
October 17 2010 19:41 GMT
#217
On October 18 2010 04:25 intrigue wrote:
i stayed with huk during this MLG and he was really torn about this himself. here's what i've concluded, and you should listen because LOL i have a red name and thus hopefully some credibility:

- huk is confident. he practices 8 hours a day on his own even without the environment of a training house (yet) and has won in high profile, pressure-filled situations before, like last MLG or his return from being down 0-2 against drewbie at IEM. it's out of the question that he threw the match out of fear (also of idra), absolutely

- huk hates losing. i've seen progamers say this in person quite a few times now, and they say it always with that same surprising vehemence. it is incredibly unlikely he just gave up and saw the crowd as an excuse for why he lost - he jokes a lot, but once you meet him he's really really obviously an upstanding person and it just conflicts too much.



what it comes down to is that he did not have much of a conscious choice here. things like this are decided not by judgment but just by personality and who you are, and the moment he made the stargate it was probably the only option he saw - just like how many of you find it preposterous that ANYONE would EVER do this.

though i agree with idra and incontrol in that it was "really fucking stupid", unlike them i also think it was incredibly admirable. from my seat all the way up front i felt a palpable stream of love from across the entire crowd flowing towards huk. to them, it was a genuine, human charisma that beamed out and connected them to an actual player. even i clapped when the MOM popped, despite thinking "what the hell is he doing are you serious WHAT IF HE LOSES" the entire time it was building.

the fact that there's eleven pages now on a single game shows how the history of sc2 is being made constantly. i'm quite proud he did what he did, even though he's probably still regretting it! it is AWESOME for promoting interest in this whole serious business of ESPORTS that we dabble in here. haters gonna hate, but they'll still know his name. his fans are never going shut up about him being the peoples' champion now, it's gonna be utterly disgusting to have to listen to over and over.





PS: not trying to hype him up and say that he made some noble sacrifice, but was simply being who he was - apparently a very lovable person. huk, you like this e-peen stroking?



u know it
ProgamerLive like a God or die like a Slave 11:11
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
October 17 2010 19:42 GMT
#218
On October 18 2010 04:38 Cybren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 03:26 robertdinh wrote:
On October 18 2010 02:46 Cybren wrote:
You are a corporation looking to sponsor one person. Who do you sponsor?
A) Someone who plays very standard, and wins very plain, albeit dominating matches
B) Someone that can win a match with standard play, but also plays to the crowd and puts on a show, getting infinitely more exposure?


Flash makes a lot of money... and huk placed third.

Flash is not playing in an up and coming market competing for attention


Flash is also a pro-gamer that takes his current profession very seriously.
True skill comes without effort.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
October 17 2010 19:49 GMT
#219
it was a genuine, human charisma that beamed out and connected them to an actual player. even i clapped when the MOM popped, despite thinking "what the hell is he doing are you serious WHAT IF HE LOSES" the entire time it was building.


This is exactly what I was feeling while I was watching on the stream. I think he shouldn't have gone for the mothership rush, but I love him for doing it.
Arcalious
Profile Joined March 2010
United States213 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-17 20:16:50
October 17 2010 19:50 GMT
#220
On October 18 2010 04:22 thesighter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2010 04:22 ToxNub wrote:
Some of you guys need a sense of humour. Yeah, fine, he probably shouldn't mothership rush every game, but every now and then it's ok to do something weird. For all we know it might have worked. and if it didn't, who cares? It's one fucking game... it's not going to destroy your capability to play starcraft at a godly level the rest of the time.


On djWheat's show today, everyone (including idra) called HuK a retard. He's not going to be respected by other players for acting like a clown when he knows he's going to lose.



HuK gave the fans entertainment and that is what they are ultimately there for right? Yeah, it was a risk and kind of silly, but yet the crowd is entertained. If he succeeded, just imagine how many more pages this thread would be. However, he failed yet it is still the most talked about game at MLG. Seems like a win win for HuK and the fans.
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