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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23470 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-20 20:37:25
May 20 2016 20:36 GMT
#24961
BW is pretty good for banmatches because a significant skill gap is basically insurmountable in that god of a game
you can play 100 games against some korean smurf and lose 100 easily
him losing to you is like you losing to a pervuian proxy 3 gater or some shit

maybe zvz is an exception but even then man...

1v1's in mobas are more of a tossup and don't necessarily represent skill too well because of champs and players relative strengths at 1v1's and who practices what.
aka Teutonica
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-20 21:04:57
May 20 2016 21:04 GMT
#24962
idk how 1v1s in league really work because i never played them but most 1v1s in dota were shadow fiend mirror matches for that reason, but things still got cheesy

On May 21 2016 04:41 Numy wrote:
Talking about nadota and super aids goes hand in hand


put some respek on my 2nd favorite moba forum's name

idk i still look at it sometimes but i mean it's like a whole forum of tyler1s
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-20 21:18:11
May 20 2016 21:13 GMT
#24963
On May 21 2016 05:36 Slayer91 wrote:
1v1's in mobas are more of a tossup and don't necessarily represent skill too well because of champs and players relative strengths at 1v1's and who practices what.

That's only because people only treat "skill" as the ability to play an actual game of LoL/DotA, not the skill at playing 1v1.

1v1 is it's own monster. Skill at 1v1 has some overlaps with skill in actual League/DotA, but it's still distinctly it's own game and should be treated as such, not merely as an extension of the "real" game.

On May 21 2016 06:04 suicideyear wrote:
idk how 1v1s in league really work because i never played them but most 1v1s in dota were shadow fiend mirror matches for that reason, but things still got cheesy

Once upon a time, 1v1 DotA had real rules and sensible formats, but it's a lost art.

1v1 in DotA is just silly now. When it shows up in tournaments it always uses fixed matchups/mirrors rather than having ban/pick (which actually does a lot to making it fair), and 1 tower/2 kills is so stupid compared to 2 towers/3 kills because of how many heroes in the pool can actually just cheese the 1st tower kill.

1v1 in League has the CS rule, which is equally stupid.
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-20 22:45:31
May 20 2016 22:43 GMT
#24964
only good 1v1 game thats also a team game is quake

but yeah 1v1 is a lot different and probably needs its own rules to make it manageable
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
May 20 2016 22:45 GMT
#24965
On May 20 2016 14:03 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2016 13:28 PrinceXizor wrote:
On May 20 2016 09:14 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
sounds like car is repairable.

anyone know if I should buy a replacement ps4 now or wait a bit? only game I really kinda want is dishonored two but thats not til november.

unless there is a very good sale going on right now, waiting can only mean a reduced price. Glad you are okay by the way.



Yeah I've only been playing dragon age inquisition and not in a rush to finish it so I'll wait and stalk websites for sales. sucks that I lost a blu ray player though. now I have to go to the other house to watch blu rays (I moved to an in law unit in the back yard)


Wait until E3 at least. I believe there are rumors that they are making a "PS4.5". Basically a ps4 with better equipment supposedly. Might as well wait for that to see if regular ps4 prices drop(which probably will happen) or if ps4.5 is worth it.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 20 2016 23:30 GMT
#24966
Urgh... that draft was physically painful. I really wish I could have recorded it or something since the course of action was somewhat clear, but I wonder what kind of deck I could have ended with.

I'd ask advice but without pick order I don't think you'll be able to make a lot out of it, apart from emphasising how hard I fucked up.
+ Show Spoiler [pool] +
Chaplain's Blessing, Inspiring Captain, Vessel of Ephemera
Explosive Apparatus

Dance with Devils, Fiery Temper, Insolent Neonate, Senseless Rage, Stensia Masquerade, Tormenting Voices

Deny Existence x2, Niblis of Dusk, Press for Answers, Silent Observer, Stormrider Spirit, Trail of Evidence, Uninvited Geist, Forgotten Creation, Vessel of Paramnesia, Thing in the Ice

Call the Bloodline, Dead Weight, Accomplice, Ghoulsteed, Grotesque Mutation, Heir of Falkenrath, Farbog Hound, Indulgent Aristocrat, Kindly Stranger, Liliana's Indignation, Merciless Resolve, Murderous Compulsion, Pick the Brain x2, Rancid Rats, Sanitarium Skeleton, Twins, Vessel of Malignity

Bolded is the stuff I had in my deck (no duplicates though).

+ Show Spoiler [picks] +
Pack 1
I open Thing and take it. On my next 5-6 picks, I have the Inspiring Captain, Dance with Devils, Stensia Masquerade, Stormrider Spirit, Murderous Compulsion.
At this point I'm just hoping I can move into the UR deck since I haven't been able to play it yet, Thing slots well and yesterday gave me some insight about how you can use tempo.
After that I see basically no blue at all though. Some green, but mostly black cards, so I start picking them.
By the end of the pack, I'm disappointed, but it looks like I've been forced into BR by my right neighbours (one of them gave a Recruite to his neighbour so I know somebody's prob green).

Pack 2
I open Silverfur Partisan, but the first 3 packs I see have multiple decent to very good blue cards, and I'm disheartened that somebody cut me so hard from it. I pass Reckless Scholar, Sleep Paralysis, Ongoing Investigations, etc. and start picking some vampires and generic B cards, including a mid-pack Call the Bloodline.
What surprise me is that somewhat decent U cards are making the wheel (Just the Wind, another Niblis, etc.). I'd really rather try and play UR or UB at this point and I'm thinking that if there's hope people aren't picking that much of it I may be able to play a mostly black UB or something. Near the end of the pack, I decide to try and pick some blue and see where things go.
This was probably a mistake, and I should have went as hard as I could into BR vampires/madness. However, cards were often mangled together so that I'd get packs with no picks of note (such as when I took the black vessel) and then packs with Bloodmad Vampire, Senseless Rage, Indolent Neonate, etc. without even counting the B cards.
I'm really uncomfortable because the end of the first pack shoved me out of one of my colours, and the second pack made it so I saw a lot of good cards in all 3 colours and always together so a good half of my pool feels like garbage/filler at that point.

Pack 3
I decide here to take blue cards if I see them, screw the others, because not many red/black made the wheel despite the loaded packs, while blue did. Of course the quality becomes scarce fast, and I don't get any card as good as what I passed pack 1. Meanwhile red seems almost empty too, partly because when there are decent cards it's pack 2 all over again with everything stacked in the same packs. Black's still open so I get to pick a bunch of stuff.

In the end, from left to right it went UB, G-something (W I think?), UB (me), UR, UWg (he got passed Always Watching, Tenacity and other cards like that pack 2 by the UR guy so he switched from UG to UW).

Clearly, I should have tried BR vampires. Masquerade + Call + Heir and a Neonate could have made for a potentially very explosive deck.
On the other hand we didn't have any Youths, the Gorger never reached me and somebody picked the other Heir a bit ahead of me, most of the removal (saved for tricks, Adrenaline Rush x2 and Senseless Rage x2 that I saw) was already taken elsewhere too... dunno how it'd have fared, although Call+Indulgent Aristocrat could have been nuts.

Instead I had people look at me funny and seem really annoyed when my turn 3 plays were Pick the Brain (3 lands, Declaration, Purge, Odric; the other time I exiled Corpse Trawler over Prized Amalgam because Thing can block a 3/3 but deathtouch is a deal breaker), or Deny Existence (on Amalgam this time).
Would they have liked it more had I played actual good 3-drops in my colours instead? Uh. It tells you your opponent has a weak as fuck deck when he needed that to fill his 23 spots, rejoice instead.


Won't talk about the matches, nothing to mention 'cept the jank-ass durdley UB mirror round 3, where I lost myself game 1 by trying to play Call of the Bloodline into having to sac my draws rather than play them (and probably flip Thing), and game 2 took over 30 minutes because I don't dare swinging my largest creatures into recurring zombies + corpse trawler and open mana (he had Waltz and Ever After for the non-recurring ones and Mindwrack Demon).
Into a 1-1-1 record because I tied with 3 minutes left.

We had Declaration x2, Thing x2, Drownyard Temple x2 (one foil), then stuff like Silverfur, Fevered Visions, etc.
The other table (6 people, the lower level one) had Sorin x2, Abbey, Bishop x2, Olivia and a couple other high scoring rares. Some people at my table were jokingly salty about the discrepancy.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 20 2016 23:44 GMT
#24967
Group of my friends and I are going to get together and I'll finally be able to do a Dice Masters draft. Hurray for opening Civil War stuff!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 21 2016 00:18 GMT
#24968
Holyflare, SpaceMonger is amazing. I knew I had a lot of random games installed, and I can look and see "yeah Witcher is 36 GB, but that's not that bad, I have plenty", but this shows it so visibly well how much I'm wasting on something I haven't played in ages. And this is exactly what I was looking for.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
May 21 2016 04:05 GMT
#24969
On May 21 2016 04:12 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh it's entirely underwhelming and then you realise everyone there is basically 25+ year olds arguing about a warning that doesn't even exist.

My favourite part is him specifically allowing self lynching, but now making the argument that a townie ever self lynching is playing against his wincondition. Which means only mafia can ever self lynch without getting banned, which means self lynching proves you're mafia, so a mafia self lynching is also playing against his wincondition which is also banworthy.

He's literally specifically allowed something in the rules, then is now trying to claim anyone who did it should be banned

top kek
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
May 21 2016 04:20 GMT
#24970
just had a community college graduation in the pouring rain. it was fun but I spent like 15 minutes in the car trying to warm up before going to the reception so I think I might have missed a few teachers I wanted to see. As long as I don't wake up with pneumonia tomorrow it was enjoyable though
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
May 21 2016 06:35 GMT
#24971
On May 21 2016 13:20 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
just had a community college graduation in the pouring rain. it was fun but I spent like 15 minutes in the car trying to warm up before going to the reception so I think I might have missed a few teachers I wanted to see. As long as I don't wake up with pneumonia tomorrow it was enjoyable though

Isn't it ironic?
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-21 06:42:53
May 21 2016 06:41 GMT
#24972
One of those awareness tests for you guys
+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler +
Did you spot the kidney bean in a tutu having a seizure?
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-21 06:45:31
May 21 2016 06:45 GMT
#24973
How to get fucked by evolve: evolve a full board and one of the 6drops becomes an Acidmaw and the hunter clears your entire board with an unleash LUL.
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 21 2016 08:08 GMT
#24974
On May 21 2016 06:13 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2016 05:36 Slayer91 wrote:
1v1's in mobas are more of a tossup and don't necessarily represent skill too well because of champs and players relative strengths at 1v1's and who practices what.

That's only because people only treat "skill" as the ability to play an actual game of LoL/DotA, not the skill at playing 1v1.

1v1 is it's own monster. Skill at 1v1 has some overlaps with skill in actual League/DotA, but it's still distinctly it's own game and should be treated as such, not merely as an extension of the "real" game.

Show nested quote +
On May 21 2016 06:04 suicideyear wrote:
idk how 1v1s in league really work because i never played them but most 1v1s in dota were shadow fiend mirror matches for that reason, but things still got cheesy

Once upon a time, 1v1 DotA had real rules and sensible formats, but it's a lost art.

1v1 in DotA is just silly now. When it shows up in tournaments it always uses fixed matchups/mirrors rather than having ban/pick (which actually does a lot to making it fair), and 1 tower/2 kills is so stupid compared to 2 towers/3 kills because of how many heroes in the pool can actually just cheese the 1st tower kill.

1v1 in League has the CS rule, which is equally stupid.

They put all these silly rules to make it a quick showmatch not a real 1v1 thing. It's sad. Original Dota 1v1 was pretty insane watching.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-21 09:05:27
May 21 2016 09:05 GMT
#24975
On May 21 2016 15:41 killerdog wrote:
One of those awareness tests for you guys
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdgtGV3o5vA&t=78


+ Show Spoiler +
Did you spot the kidney bean in a tutu having a seizure?

I can't enjoy this stuff as much as I should because I know these girls have trained for years then get dumped onto meme group thing.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 21 2016 09:34 GMT
#24976
On May 21 2016 09:18 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Holyflare, SpaceMonger is amazing. I knew I had a lot of random games installed, and I can look and see "yeah Witcher is 36 GB, but that's not that bad, I have plenty", but this shows it so visibly well how much I'm wasting on something I haven't played in ages. And this is exactly what I was looking for.


Yeah, it's awesome! Definitely makes me think twice about what I have installed and what I actually play, especially on my ssd (fucking sims).
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-21 10:13:52
May 21 2016 10:10 GMT
#24977
On May 21 2016 18:05 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2016 15:41 killerdog wrote:
One of those awareness tests for you guys
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdgtGV3o5vA&t=78


+ Show Spoiler +
Did you spot the kidney bean in a tutu having a seizure?

I can't enjoy this stuff as much as I should because I know these girls have trained for years then get dumped onto meme group thing.

By not enjoying it you're just making all their work even more pointless >.>

I'm just disappointed that jessica and tiffany aren't going head to head on the music shows :<
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
May 21 2016 11:57 GMT
#24978
Your red herring has no power over me XD
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
May 21 2016 12:05 GMT
#24979
On May 21 2016 15:41 killerdog wrote:
One of those awareness tests for you guys
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdgtGV3o5vA&t=78


+ Show Spoiler +
Did you spot the kidney bean in a tutu having a seizure?


+ Show Spoiler +
This is kind of ruined by the kidney bean being plainly visible in the background before you even press play.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-21 18:22:03
May 21 2016 16:59 GMT
#24980
Doing some weekend rainbow 6 siege for a few hours. https://www.twitch.tv/halfwingseen I think i mostly fixed the buzz...


EDIT: had an intermission to fix my fans. now we're back running again. for 2-2.5 more hours (ending at 5 ET)
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